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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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#1
 2007-11-26, 23:02
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radicalrascal 
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the bad boyfriend issue
So what exactly do you do when the chick you want to get with is dating a total asshole who admittidly cheats on her? She's pissed about it but doesn't want to leave him just "to see where it leads". Any advice on what to do?
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#2
 2007-11-26, 23:05
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Well if he cheats and treats her bad and she doesent want to leave and truly thinks there's any hope for the relationship, I prescribe that girl a smack across the face and a reality check.
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#3
 2007-11-26, 23:06
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Drop the dumb bitch like a bad habit. Don't carry her emotional bags for her. She's not going to dump him, and unless you want to really upset her, making demands will get you nowhere. You don't have to drop the relationship if you can do that; but most people can't.
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#4
 2007-11-26, 23:10
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Why would you even want to get involved with a chick like that?
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#5
 2007-11-26, 23:16
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
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Originally Posted by gadzooks
Why would you even want to get involved with a chick like that?
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A) She's way HOT!
B) She's one of those badass punk rock types that are wicked fun to be around
C) She smokes, which is good for me and hard to find these days
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#6
 2007-11-26, 23:18
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Cousingrimm 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
I don't know.... see if she'll fuck you on the side? Just don't 'fall in love' with those peoples. It's bad news from the beginning, and someone is always getting played.
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#7
 2007-11-26, 23:26
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
So ripe, so sweet, come suck it and see,
But watch out Daddy, I sting like a bee.
I know some tricks, I swear will give you the bends,
C'mon, baby, be my bad boyfriend
Yep, that'll be burned into my brain for the evening.
Thanks.
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#8
 2007-11-27, 07:01
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Well, there's really nothing you're gonna be able to do to convince her to break up with him. The more you tell her it's bad for her, the more she's gonna want it.
I'd say do one of two things, as a friend. Either start slowly pushing her away, and if she asks about it, tell her you're sick of seeing her do stupid shit and come whining to you about it, or be there to support her.
More importantly, find someone who isn't dating anyone. Much less complication.
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#9
 2007-11-27, 07:02
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Climbing_The_Bell_Tower 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
be an even bigger asshole.
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#10
 2007-11-27, 07:29
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
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Originally Posted by Climbing_The_Bell_Tower
be an even bigger asshole.
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Hey Oh, we have a winner.
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#11
 2007-11-27, 08:11
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
She needs a slap mate. Seriously.
In your situation I'd try to get her to "even the odds" on her boyfriend and fuck me...Failing that, I'd leave her arse to be dumb on it's own.
I hate stupid bitches like this. Stay with a cheating arsehole to "see what happens"...Here's what's gonna happen...He's gonna use you for sex, tell you he loves you then go out and get some fanny on the side and let you know because you're dumb enough to wonder "What's gonna happen next?"
I hate dumb bitches.
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#12
 2007-11-27, 11:15
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Mecha-Troll 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Everyone who claims to be a nice guy and that girls prefer assholes should read this:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9292/niceguyvsrelamantz9.gif
Actually, everyone should be handed a book called "How To Not Fail" at birth, and this should be somewhere in it.
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#13
 2007-11-27, 11:39
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
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Originally Posted by Mecha-Troll
Everyone who claims to be a nice guy and that girls prefer assholes should read this:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9292/niceguyvsrelamantz9.gif
Actually, everyone should be handed a book called "How To Not Fail" at birth, and this should be somewhere in it.
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Yes and Yes. This is why I get women.
Lads...Read it and apply it.
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#14
 2007-11-27, 11:59
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
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Originally Posted by yoyobek
Well if he cheats and treats her bad and she doesent want to leave and truly thinks there's any hope for the relationship, I prescribe that girl a smack across the face and a reality check.
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This, only with a closed fist.
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#15
 2007-11-27, 14:22
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Yes and Yes. This is why I get women.
Lads...Read it and apply it.
I thought it was because "I'm a mod on Totse" gets all girls wet.
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#16
 2007-11-27, 14:32
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dodging the rain and tractors
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
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Originally Posted by radicalrascal
So what exactly do you do when the chick you want to get with is dating a total asshole who admittidly cheats on her? She's pissed about it but doesn't want to leave him just "to see where it leads". Any advice on what to do?
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She has a boyfriend, thats all you need to know. If and when she dumps him then she's fair game, upto then you do nothing to get involved with her.
Remember, if she's prepared to cheat on him with you then she'll also be prepared to cheat with some other guy on you down the line.
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#17
 2007-11-27, 14:37
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
She has a boyfriend, thats all you need to know. If and when she dumps him then she's fair game, upto then you do nothing to get involved with her.
Remember, if she's prepared to cheat on him with you then she'll also be prepared to cheat with some other guy on you down the line.
What if he just wants to hit it and quit it though?
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#18
 2007-11-27, 14:42
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
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Originally Posted by Mecha-Troll
Everyone who claims to be a nice guy and that girls prefer assholes should read this:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9292/niceguyvsrelamantz9.gif
Actually, everyone should be handed a book called "How To Not Fail" at birth, and this should be somewhere in it.
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wait, so being a nice person means being weak willed and being an asshole means that you actually have a spine?
That article was all about self-esteem, not being a good/bad person. There are plenty of assholes with no self-confidence and plenty of nice people with tons.
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#19
 2007-11-27, 14:49
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gadzooks 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
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Originally Posted by Mecha-Troll
Everyone who claims to be a nice guy and that girls prefer assholes should read this:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9292/niceguyvsrelamantz9.gif
Actually, everyone should be handed a book called "How To Not Fail" at birth, and this should be somewhere in it.
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No, this girl seems to be into the REALLY bad guys. If he cheats on her regularly and she refuses to break up with him, then she's even more fucked up in the head than your average female.
This particular girl seems to thrive on abuse.
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#20
 2007-11-27, 16:26
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Mecha-Troll 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
wait, so being a nice person means being weak willed and being an asshole means that you actually have a spine?
That article was all about self-esteem, not being a good/bad person. There are plenty of assholes with no self-confidence and plenty of nice people with tons.
False. Nice doesn't mean good. Nice means agreeable. Such a quality is not something a girl will wet their panties over. It is a modest way to describe that you're not completely repulsive in your behavior. By using such a word to describe yourself, it can safely be assumed that you are indeed of a submissive nature and will try to please everyone simply to be accepted.
Another thing, it did not mention assholes at all, it mentions the real man which by that description could not be an asshole. Confidence does not equal impoliteness or immorality.
And yet another thing, it deals with stereotypes. The nice guy stereotype is the kind who will go to internet forums and claim with little confidence that they're the ideal person to date and blame the fact that they're still virgins on everyone else by claiming that all girls like assholes. The funny thing about humanity is that it's easier to blame 50% or more of the world's population for your problems than it is to admit that it's simply your own fault.
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#21
 2007-11-27, 16:32
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Mecha-Troll 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
No, this girl seems to be into the REALLY bad guys. If he cheats on her regularly and she refuses to break up with him, then she's even more fucked up in the head than your average female.
This particular girl seems to thrive on abuse.
Well then, it seems like a case of masochism, likely unaware. Has she ever been abused earlier in her life? We all know it's common for victims of abuse to seek out the wrong guy and desperately hold on for any sign of affection, denying any signs of the relationship being unhealthy. If she seem to deny his behavior, either if it's the whole occurrence of abuse, the seriousness or the intentions, I suggest therapy.
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#22
 2007-11-27, 16:38
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gadzooks 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Another thing, it did not mention assholes at all, it mentions the real man which by that description could not be an asshole. Confidence does not equal impoliteness or immorality.
Right, but women also prefer straight up jerks over nice guys, because jerks happen to have the confidence that nice guys lack.
Girls don't really care how good of a person you are. They just want someone who's in control.
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#23
 2007-11-27, 17:01
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
However lets not forget this gentlemen.
Im sure we always see bombshell girls date "Studs" or "Assholes" in early 20's and 30's.
But look around at the 40 year olds. It seems to me that by the time girls hit 40 they are sick of assholes and have all their "LIke to be treated like crap" phase done with.
Look at all the fat/ugly/weird 40 year old who have BOMBSHELL MILFS.
Either way men. Whether your a complete asshole or the most insecure guy around you WILL get your shot with a hot chick.
But try to aim in the middle of the "Nice Guys" and "Assholes"
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#24
 2007-11-27, 17:02
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Mecha-Troll 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Right, but women also prefer straight up jerks over nice guys, because jerks happen to have the confidence that nice guys lack.
Girls don't really care how good of a person you are. They just want someone who's in control.
Part false, part true. A lack of morality and politeness does not have any positive effects when it comes to relationships. Well, except if you're dating a goth or a masochist. I goes something like this:
Confident and polite man > asshole > nice guy.
Assholes tend to have more confidence than these nice guys, but this just means that nice guys have absolutely no confidence, not that assholes attract all the girls.
It is correct that the majority of females prefers a man who can take some degree of control (which is why the submissiveness of nice guys is an unattractive trait). Non-assholes can easily take control too, and these are the ideal partners, those who will get laid and have a happy relationship after.
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#25
 2007-11-27, 17:02
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Right, but women also prefer straight up jerks over nice guys, because jerks happen to have the confidence that nice guys lack.
Girls don't really care how good of a person you are. They just want someone who's in control.
Said by someone who's been badly hurt by a horrible woman in his life so now judges all women as being just as bad.
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#26
 2007-11-27, 17:06
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gadzooks 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
Said by someone who's been badly hurt by a horrible woman in his life so now judges all women as being just as bad.
Not just one.
And it's not just based on personal experience, but also on plenty of cases I have witnessed over the years.
Both men AND women are extremely predictable. For the most part, women just want a man who is in control. At least if they had to choose between that or a man who is always groveling at the woman's feet. And men are attracted to looks. Plain and simple.
There are slight deviations from the norm at times, but for the most part, it generally holds true for most cases.
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#27
 2007-11-28, 01:59
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Climbing_The_Bell_Tower 
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Re: the bad boyfriend issue
You guys should stop giving this "nice guy" a hard time, it's not his fault. He's not the first "nice guy" to say women prefer assholes, and he's not wrong either.
Our feminized society is constantly telling men bullshit like the "meek shall inherit the earth" and "if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all". Movies and tv shows always unrealistically portray the nice geek who gets beaten up for the girl and gets her love and attention (more than "just friends"). They also show the guy who gives the random girl flowers hopelessly falling in love with him for being so kind and chivalrous.
Face it, our western society is sick and women are trying to imitate men by being cruel and arrogant, this is what they think a man is even though it's not (this is not their fault either). Women are superficial and immature, as well as well as borderline masochists who crave chaos, but we're not going to change that. For those unlucky nice guys, if you want to be successful in romance in our society you have to play by the rules, instead of waiting forever for the girl that will appreciate your "niceness" and "meekness", be the man they want! It is possible to be cool and a nice guy in the eyes of your male friends, while also being a badass and dominant in the eyes of women, work on finding the happy median. 
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