A question to all believers:

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If God is the creator, who created God?

ummmmmmmm ... ummm ... (trying to think of a witty answer that's not trite) ... ummm..... ummmm... fuck it

God has no beginning or end. God exists outside/above time. God has existed since the beginning of time.

[Obbe]

Yes, God is without time. There was no 'creation', God has always been. God is, all is.

Now this is the same question that is commonly posted to atheists, that is to them, "How was the universe created, how does something come from apparent nothingness?" From a scientific standpoint theists seem to believe that we have no solid theory to deal with this. This is wrong in several ways however.

We are observers who in every way are stuck inside of our universe. We cannot in any way probe outside of its dimensions which include time as well. How are we ever supposed to formulate a theory on such a subject without any ability to probe outside of it? The big bang theory is an excellent attempt with solid backing to trace back the events of this universe as far as possible, but for us to hypothesize on its origins is simple impossible. In no way however, does this suggest that we must throw away all the observable data we have of this universe and accept some procured divine being. In a place where space and time are without meaning there are any number of possible explanations that do not involve divinity as to how everything we understand could have come into being. So we have not proven anything yet on the nature of the universe, yet we still have evidence that has thouroughly disproven every major religion in existance on this planet.

How does anything exist?

A theist will ask "why?"

An atheist will ask "what?"

THAT is the fundamental difference.

[BrokeProphet]

Originally Posted by joecaveman

How does anything exist?

A theist will ask "why?"

An atheist will ask "what?"

THAT is the fundamental difference.

Fail.

The fundamental difference is a theist accepts an answer to your question of existence without ........... ahem............ ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT.

They may ask "why" and then INVENT an answer for it.

An atheists uses that big grey bowl of chemical soup that is a brain to find answers.

[Obbe]

Originally Posted by BrokeProphet

... without ........... ahem............ ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT.

God is obvious.

[i poop in your cereal]

Originally Posted by Obbe

God is obvious.

Your trolling is obvious.

[Obbe]

Originally Posted by i poop in your cereal

Your trolling is obvious.

This insinuation does not negate Gods obviousness.

[BrokeProphet]

Originally Posted by Obbe

This insinuation does not negate Gods obviousness.

His insinuation is a statement of fact first and foremost. Secondly, tell the obviousness that is god. I suggest first you look up and DEFINE obviousness then tell me how obvious god is.