Secular schools have no place in society

Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith; we need believing people

[stormshadowftb]

yes, our kids need to be equipped with an almost fanatical devotion to the pope.

[Real.PUA]

Originally Posted by shitty wok

Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith; we need believing people

Morality doesn't come from god, you fool. If god told you to torture a baby would that make it moral? No.

Originally Posted by Real.PUA

Morality doesn't come from god, you fool. If god told you to torture a baby would that make it moral? No.

It's not my quote. But it's someone you've probably heard of.

[truckfixr]

That's from Hitler... You remember...he's the guy whose religious beliefs the fundies always want to deny the existance of.

if you are trying to say that you cant have morals w/o religion then you are a fool.

Religious schools have no place in society. You are your own god. Live, fuck, die, we are just animals. Shit flinging monkeys who have descended from the trees to try to instill some since of meaning in our lives with that thing called god. Yes I agree you can't have morals without god or culture, because really, there is no right and wrong. Everything we think of to be right or wrong is just because that is how our culture has programmed us. And these things are programmed in us to maintain order. As John Locke I believe said it, "government is a trade of freedom for safety". And god is just another tool of culture. The law of the animals is survival, and as humans, we have risen above the law of nature and without the kill or be killed, we have established order. This society though, like everything built by humans has flaws, and organized religion is one of them.

Originally Posted by shitty wok

Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith; we need believing people

You've never heard of humanism, have you? As in, secular morality? From what I've read of it, it's actually a lot more easy to swallow than a Judeo-Christian ethic based on 'God said so!!!!!!!!'

[Anirak]

Originally Posted by socratic

You've never heard of humanism, have you? As in, secular morality? From what I've read of it, it's actually a lot more easy to swallow than a Judeo-Christian ethic based on 'God said so!!!!!!!!'

By the fourth-post down you should have been googling the quote instead of thinking about how you were going to make yourself look better.

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Originally Posted by shitty wok

and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air;

How so? Morality promotes the smooth interaction between humans. It has little to do with religion. In fact, religion is built on morality.