And I've never had a girlfriend, or had a proper kiss.

As a kid I was shy,and kind of fucking ugly. In my early teen years I was unconfident and kind of scared of girls. In my later teen years I was scared of getting with a girl because I didn't want to seem like the unexperienced fuck and girls would probably laugh about it with their girlfriends (or rest of the school...) later.
But now I know that staying away from girls was probably a good idea because about two years ago I found out that my penis size is drastically smaller than average. (4 inches/10 cm erect)
It's really eating at me knowing that I can never get with a girl. But it utterly kills me being alone and knowing I'll never find somebody and most probably die alone and forever a virgin.
What I want to know is, should I just give up on trying to find somebody/pining after people I'll never get with and find something else to feel fulfilled?
I read about jelqing from the Archives a short while after finding out about my penis size. Should I try this instead? Would it work?

When you find a girl that truly loves you, none of that will matter.

Hookers don't care how small your dick is.

Neither will a chick that loves you.



But it's easier to find a hooker.

Most women will be more than happy with 4". Makes oral and anal a lot easier too.

Jackketch's Rule Of Thumb: "After you've given her two straight orgasms with your fingers and tongue she won't give a fuck how big you are".

And what the guys above said.

I'm sure girls would still talk about it with their girlfriends/co-workers. And what about when she meets my brother and sister? Well not so much my brother. But I don't want her talking it over with my sister who'd probably tell the rest of my family about it over dinner or something thinking its funny and good conversation...
There's also the whole inexperience thing going against me.
I was thinking of just hitting clubs and picking up a bunch of chicks for practice. And eventually I'd find a girl that would want to see me again and I'd be able to make her happy. But that sort of goes against who I am really.

Wait, why would you're girlfriend talk to your sister about the size of your dick?

And why would your sister think that would be appropriate dinner conversation with the family?

What kind of fucked up incestuous mountain in Kentucky did you come from?

Well maybe not at the dinner table. But talking about penis sizes is a girl thing to do isnt it?

Wait... Before you say those things like girls talk about penis sizes etc. Did you even try talking to a girl?

And so what if they all laugh and make fun of your small dick? There are a lot more girls out there who are far better than them.

Don't fear rejection and if you get rejected, so what? Be a man, move on and find better chicks out there.

Get some money together, and start sleeping with hookers. You will get over your fear of the unknown, and trust me, hookers can show you a lot more than the 14 year old little girls the totseans on here fuck.

Hookers don't care how small your dick is.

Neither will a chick that loves you.



But it's easier to find a hooker.

That is what I say.

I'm sure girls would still talk about it with their girlfriends/co-workers. And what about when she meets my brother and sister? Well not so much my brother. But I don't want her talking it over with my sister who'd probably tell the rest of my family about it over dinner or something thinking its funny and good conversation...
There's also the whole inexperience thing going against me.
I was thinking of just hitting clubs and picking up a bunch of chicks for practice. And eventually I'd find a girl that would want to see me again and I'd be able to make her happy. But that sort of goes against who I am really.

Sorry, no. This won't help. You might get good at picking up girls, but you are still going to feel anxiety when you go to fuck them. You are still going to have the same doubts about your actual performance.

Hookers fix this problem, just get some hookers and start working out. If you got a small dick, at least you'll look hot naked, and at least you'll know how to work that 4" dick.

Well maybe not at the dinner table. But talking about penis sizes is a girl thing to do isnt it?

Yes it is, but honestly most girls aren't that concerned about it. Who cares if you have a small dick? Do you get pussy? I bet there are guys with 9" dicks that get no pussy. You could be the guy showing up the big dicks. Get some prostitutes man.

your very paranoid, dont think of stupid shit like that.

pride is more than dick size. do you really want to have 4 1/2 inches of pride?

I, myself never had a problem with girls. my problem was going through with them. tons of kind, and nice looking girls always showed their interest in me, but I always blew them off with focus toward the ones I had in mind, from the start. THAT is a big problem. is your problem that you can't get girls, or is it that you can't get the girls you want? in the end, you'll just always wind up with what you can get.

4 1/2 inches? don't worry, I've never noticed length to matter. now WIDTH...you never mentioned the width. if that shit's is three inches THICK, then shit balances out, dude. and you've got it made.

if not, and over-all; all I can suggest is that go for what you can get. if you're having a problem with that, then just losen up, man...

but either way, don't worry. they'll come along for you, sooner or later.

Your life is what you make it. People have told you that none of the things you worry about are really unsolvable problems, so just:

1). Work on your moods, outset and what happens on your mind. Start doing lots of sports, that really helps to keep yourself sane and in a positive mood. Listen to some kick-ass music. You need 120% confidence, and you can get there.

2). Prostitutes/random hookups with strangers.

3). Start approaching girls. Don't brush any of them off. Flirt with all of them. If you're seriously interested only in one of them, keep contact with the rest as well anyway - that'll help in the long run.

4). Win!

That's unfortunate about your dick, but like that other guy said, if you can give her an orgasm with your tongue then she will care less about your penis.

I always encourage buying hookers. Your money is as good as the next guy's, so she won't care if you have a small cock.

EDIT: I hope you were spending all that time in high school studying while everyone else was getting laid. If you land a nice job with good pay, you will still be able to find some hot bitches that would love to fuck you. Most girls like money more than they like sex.

Well maybe not at the dinner table. But talking about penis sizes is a girl thing to do isnt it?

Not when it's about ones own brother!


Anyhew, no big deal being a virgin at 20. It's only a big deal to morons who put some sort of importance on it, as though they somehow become great people if they get some bitch drunk on their 14th birthday and do her frantically for a few minutes.


Anyway, thinking that you're going to die a virgin just because you're one now is bloody stupid. I may not own a fleet of fast cars and a nice converted warehouse by the ocean yet, but I'm not going to kill myself because I dont have it all right now. That would be silly.


You cant tell the future, but there are a few things that are pretty much guaranteed to happen. As a human, you're going to have sex with atleast a few people. You're going to get hurt emotionally a few times. You'll make a few poor financial decisions,you'll lose someone you love, you're going to have some fun. And so on.

So, dont give up.

Don't be so pessimistic. If every guy with a 4-inch dick thought like you, this world would be a sad place. It's really, truly, not about the size. It's what you do with it. Not even your dick, everything else too. Learn to use your tongue, fingers, nose, whatever, and ultimately, the size of your dick doesn't matter. Don't give up on girls just cause of something so insignificant.

Do not fucking listen to this guy. Never settle for a girl you don't want. I mean fucking shit man, just because a bitch will fuck you, DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD STAY WITH HER!

Sorry, but I can't let the idea of a guy being stuck with a bitch just because she spread her legs for him. Unless of course that is your true love :P Which it isn't going to be, because you're going to get a hooker.

Don't be so pessimistic. If every guy with a 4-inch dick thought like you, this world would be a sad place. It's really, truly, not about the size. It's what you do with it. Not even your dick, everything else too. Learn to use your tongue, fingers, nose, whatever, and ultimately, the size of your dick doesn't matter. Don't give up on girls just cause of something so insignificant.

Now why don't you tell me where the fuck he is going to learn how to do all of, "it", as you so eloquently put it...?

The reason you are supposed to mess around with girls at a young age is so you learn from your mistakes. Despite what a lot of bitches say, when they are older it is a huge turn off if the guy is fucking incompetent when it comes to the bedroom. Where are guys supposed to learn what to do? Through previous experience, which this guy has none because he has never been kissed, or through hookers.

Why do you think fathers would take their sons to prostitutes back in the day? They need to introduce prostitutes into the school system in Highschool, so when you become a senior you are allowed to fuck a prostitute of your choice. I mean shit even make it an academic competition. I bet there would be a lot higher grades, and a lot happier student body. Especially if all the guys could now lay the pipe on some of these Highschool girls the way they are supposed to.

^ True story. In China everyone has a 4-inch dick, and look how many of them are there now!

If it will make you feel any better..

I know a guy with 3.5 inchs dick and still able to get girls even through the WHOLE school knew his dick size.

not to be an asshole, but dude, you are such a major pussy. you probably won't be getting laid any time soon because, from the sound of things, you have no self confidence. and at the age of 20, that's kind of hard to turn around.

plus you keep bitching about your penis size... haha, what a bitch. no wonder you can't get girls. don't complain about shit unless it's worth complaining about; jesus christ, grow a spine. it doesn't matter if your dick is small, you can do something about it to change things... but you won't, because you're a testicle-less coward who's probably scared of his own shadow.

oh, and if you wanna get laid, how is picking up sluts at clubs against your morals? get your mind right, damn.

FYI - I'm 17 and my dick is 7", and it keeps growing. in your face.

oh on a side note, i was raiding my dads bathroom for pills one day and found a bunch of magnums. which scared me at first, then made me happy!

maybe you should hate your parents for shitty genetics... are you inbred?

Ok few things that I've noticed:

1. Who cares what people think of you? If they like you, great, if not, they can fuck off.

2. Don't ever worry about what has already happened, or what might never even happen, live in the now.

3. Your only 20 years old. 20! You have your whole life ahead of you. Who cares if you haven't gotten laid yet. I sure as fuck don't, for all I know you could be a decent cool guy whether you got laid or not.

4. Who cares how big you are, as they other guys said, if you can make her happy she won't give a shit about that anyway.

If your going through hell, keep going. It's the only way you will ever get the fuck out.

I'm thinking something is strange in your genetics if you picture your father's dick and become "happy".

Does this prove that homosexuality is actually a genetic disease?

Magnums are barely bigger than normal condoms. The Magnum XL's are the ones for if you have a huge dick.

not to be an asshole, but dude, I'm 17 and my dick is 7", and it keeps growing. in your face. maybe you should hate your parents for shitty genetics... are you inbred?

Thanks for not being an asshole bro. Warms my heart...

As for the rest of you. Thanks a lot for your advice. I guess I should stop being so paranoid about it and hopefully I can break habitual negative thinking. Obviously I wont just be able to suddenly pick myself out from this rut, but its a definite start to know that not all is lost. That I shouldn't expect the worst, and if I get it, I shouldn't let it get me down.
I have to admit I expected everybody to respond like sawed off pump. So when I made this thread I didn't expect my disposition to be any better but I thought that, at least, the flames would finally compel me to take up jelqing, or to become a religious or something.
I just hope I can really put to practise what seems so blaringly easy in my head at the moment. :D

Thanks for not being an asshole bro. Warms my heart...

As for the rest of you. Thanks a lot for your advice. I guess I should stop being so paranoid about it and hopefully I can break habitual negative thinking. Obviously I wont just be able to suddenly pick myself out from this rut, but its a definite start to know that not all is lost. That I shouldn't expect the worst, and if I get it, I shouldn't let it get me down.
I have to admit I expected everybody to respond like sawed off pump. So when I made this thread I didn't expect my disposition to be any better but I thought that, at least, the flames would finally compel me to take up jelqing, or to become a religious or something.
I just hope I can really put to practise what seems so blaringly easy in my head at the moment. :D

Do you have any pictures of yourself?

What kind of fucked up incestuous mountain in Kentucky did you come from?

LOL

5char

Yeah man, your thinking way too damn much. Your penis and your looks shouldn't come into the equation. My best friend is obese and quite honestly the ugliest person I've ever known. He's 19, and he's slept with 13 girls. His secret? (and mine)
Don't give a damn.

If one girl isn't interested in you, does that mean the other millions aren't? Of course not.

Yeah, pics.

go for asian girls... their used to em'



but seriously man, no worries bro, its all about being yourself. If you dont feel comfortable being yourself then the first way to get there is build your self confidence, just get yourself feeling better about yourself. You can start by working out, this is a huge confidence boost, and getting active. I also enjoy comedies and smoking a fatty, that always makes everything better. try doing this with a chick... presto not only will she not care of your inexperience, but she will likely think it cute.

You interested in any sports? maybe just meet up with some buds and go to the bar watch the game? dont got buds? just head outside.. and take it upon yourself to talk to people. just say hi and if they say hi back go from there. Just start making connections first.

Just remember man your only 20... fuck man thats nothing.. dont even worry about it.

But it's easier to find a hooker.

Thats known as The C.B method....

Prophet of truth.

Prophet of truth.

hey thats a nice new quote.

ok the first thing, is that penis size does not matter that much. the biggest thing thats killing you is your lack of confidence. i know its hard to be more sociable around girls, i used to be like that and am still a little bit shy now. i found that the trick is to find an attitude that fits you really well and you like, then you can be proud to talk to them confidently.

at the moment, im the black humour/racist joke guy. everyone knows its not nice, but thats why they find it funny

i used to be the kind of person that sat around all day and studied and be hostile towards girls (not because i dont like them, i was just being all defensive as a way to prevent my shyness from approaching).

i really suggest to you to start hanging out with some friends who do have many female friends and just ease yourself into their conversation while hanging out. i found that to be really helpful.

and finally and most importantly, dont forget to smile. that removes any aura of hostility towards you and people know they can approach you without biting their heads off.

youll get it, good luck. even though if you dont get a girlfriend soon, at least you built up your confidence, and thats a vital first step

I'm thinking something is strange in your genetics if you picture your father's dick and become "happy".

Does this prove that homosexuality is actually a genetic disease?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2741036.ece

well who cares if women laugh about it,just say to them.Well as long I get pleasure nothing else matters,and your nothing but having a pussy between your legs.

qft.

they'll give you a blowjob for not much more than $10. technically according to people today that's still a virgin, but i dont really think so. a virgin is a loser who's had no sexual contact at all with a girl imo. make sure you hide your wallet/lock your glove box though, hookers are all professional pickpockets. if you do that, your not a loser, again, to me, a "virgin" is just a nerd who's afraid of girls. either that, or you're doing it for some religious/personal reason (and not just saying that because your afraid of girls). And your not a loser if you pay for sex, because it actually ends up being alot cheaper than doing the whole dating thing. Imagine how much you'd spend on one date, and you still might not get any, when a blowjob from a prostitute is only like $10. most of them are pretty ugly and nasty, but you might as well do it just to say you did.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2741036.ece

Lol, that is insane.

qft.

they'll give you a blowjob for not much more than $10. technically according to people today that's still a virgin, but i dont really think so. a virgin is a loser who's had no sexual contact at all with a girl imo. make sure you hide your wallet/lock your glove box though, hookers are all professional pickpockets. if you do that, your not a loser, again, to me, a "virgin" is just a nerd who's afraid of girls. either that, or you're doing it for some religious/personal reason (and not just saying that because your afraid of girls). And your not a loser if you pay for sex, because it actually ends up being alot cheaper than doing the whole dating thing. Imagine how much you'd spend on one date, and you still might not get any, when a blowjob from a prostitute is only like $10. most of them are pretty ugly and nasty, but you might as well do it just to say you did.

You aren't allowed to redefine the word virgin...

Lol, that is insane.



You aren't allowed to redefine the word virgin...

well who was allowed to in the first place? a virgin used to mean a woman who hadn't had sex. and only recently since the clinton thing was oral sex defined as not sex.

well who was allowed to in the first place? a virgin used to mean a woman who hadn't had sex. and only recently since the clinton thing was oral sex defined as not sex.

You're asking me to explain the evolution of the word "virgin". You redefining it as "a nerd loser who is afraid of girls" makes less sense then the already understood word. So please, don't do the English language any favors.

You're asking me to explain the evolution of the word "virgin". You redefining it as "a nerd loser who is afraid of girls" makes less sense then the already understood word. So please, don't do the English language any favors.

being that "virgin" was up until recently used strictly for women, it does imply a nerd, or A WOMAN. It's obviously more of an insult imo when used to describe males. And if you got oral sex, your no longer a nerd really as far as in that department. And as far as prostitutes, it's actually more nerdy in my opinion to do the whole girlfriend thing, or club thing.

There are plenty of places on the internet that will tell you massage parlors that are whore houses in your area. Thats an even better idea imo, because they will be asian, instead of black (or a white meth addict with rotten teeth), and the chances of you having your name in the paper for picking up a prostitute, are far less. The only thing, is it costs like $60 on average, but then a street whore will charge that much if you actually go to a room. I've heard of alot of those places only giving handjobs :( wtf? but most will blow you I think.

So what I'm 22 next month, and still a virgin, unless oral counts, does oral count, I really don't know the rules of virginity.

I say it does. But man, 22? Idk, I guess there is nothing wrong with that. Oral feels better anyway (wich isn't as great as you'd think), so yeah. Sex is overrated, but you are kind of a nerd being 20 and not having any sexual contact with a girl. Not that you're missing out on much, thats why I say do it just to say you did. A guy who's 40, and alone, is perfectly fine, but a guy who's 40, and a virgin, is like the king of losers. I'm sure if I live to be 40, I wont have a wife or family. And that doesn't bother me at all. I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life with anyone. If you make me live with my best friend, I'll fight him in two to three days, I just dont get along with anybody. I couldn't imagine having to support kids, and having to see some fucking woman, every day for the rest of my life. That's hell imo.

I bet anything, if you jack off, in like thirty seconds, the first time you fuck a girl, it will be about an hour or two (it's that bad), so hell yeah, sex is overrated. the first time i got oral sex it lasted a long ass fucking time, so that shows you even that isn't that great.

Okay well firstly girls don't really talk about penises much we usually talk about things tht don't stare back at you like clothes and handbags o.0 so i wouldn't worry about that, also although with some girls big is better for most it's just whats comfortable, but either way you're penis will not make or brake the relationship (most of the time). In fact even if you suck at sex it still doesn't make you a undesirable some girls think unexperienced boys are sweet.

Although you're probs best off finding an unexperienced girl because it's one of those things that she'll feel you can "share together". So don't fuss over it make it your selling point. "Omg I'm such a sensitive and tuned in guy see i'm saying myself for the right girl" or say something about you being true to your "faith" and not wanting to fornicate out of marriage.

If I were you I wouldn't hook up with hookers. Hookers are for a laugh or a lads weekend it's kinda sad if your first girl is a hooker...just hang around in bars and shit. In fact get one of those nice haircuts, a guy with a nice haircut get girls even if he has an ugly face because a guy with a nice haircut cares about his appearance and looks as if he might have a career.

Summary: All is not lost, Hookers suck (in a bad way), nice haircut = girls

Boom owned.

Cuz its all gd your white innit so like go to thailand and pick any hot chick you want. u know how lyke asians love white people innit. I had this ugly IT teacher that lyke had da fittest girl from thailand

I thought you were banged up doing porridge.

lol @ u

Dude, it might feel like shit, but you'll snap out of it. You say you're 20? Perfect. The day you turn 21, you are going to a bar and get real shit-faced. You WILL find a girl that night, and she WILL invite you back to her place. To do that, just draw attention to yourself. Dress real nice, and have your friends announce loudly it is your 21st bday and therefore you will get attention. If your sassage really is that small, she won't notice. Actually, you probably won't even be able to keep it up if you're inexperienced with drunken sex.
The above method is for one night stands ONLY, I have met only one of my girlfriends at a bar. A girl you want to get in a relationship with will be found at a time and place not of your choosing. It will just "happen", and you'll know the minute it does.

LOLWUT?!


Your post reeks with homosexuality.

being that "virgin" was up until recently used strictly for women, it does imply a nerd, or A WOMAN. It's obviously more of an insult imo when used to describe males. And if you got oral sex, your no longer a nerd really as far as in that department. And as far as prostitutes, it's actually more nerdy in my opinion to do the whole girlfriend thing, or club thing.

There are plenty of places on the internet that will tell you massage parlors that are whore houses in your area. Thats an even better idea imo, because they will be asian, instead of black (or a white meth addict with rotten teeth), and the chances of you having your name in the paper for picking up a prostitute, are far less. The only thing, is it costs like $60 on average, but then a street whore will charge that much if you actually go to a room. I've heard of alot of those places only giving handjobs :( wtf? but most will blow you I think.

You're like...the biggest idiot.

I say it does. But man, 22? Idk, I guess there is nothing wrong with that. Oral feels better anyway (wich isn't as great as you'd think), so yeah. Sex is overrated, but you are kind of a nerd being 20 and not having any sexual contact with a girl. Not that you're missing out on much, thats why I say do it just to say you did. A guy who's 40, and alone, is perfectly fine, but a guy who's 40, and a virgin, is like the king of losers. I'm sure if I live to be 40, I wont have a wife or family. And that doesn't bother me at all. I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life with anyone. If you make me live with my best friend, I'll fight him in two to three days, I just dont get along with anybody. I couldn't imagine having to support kids, and having to see some fucking woman, every day for the rest of my life. That's hell imo.

I bet anything, if you jack off, in like thirty seconds, the first time you fuck a girl, it will be about an hour or two (it's that bad), so hell yeah, sex is overrated. the first time i got oral sex it lasted a long ass fucking time, so that shows you even that isn't that great.

Like I said...moron...

I am being totally empathetic here
I know the feeling of thinking you will die alone, without ever finding love in your life or even someone to fuck. I felt that way up to the age of 16, where the only few things i had ever done was kiss at truth or dare, hooked up with a guy at 14 that told me "it would make me feel better about my break up if we hooked up" and fell for it cuz i was stupid and 14, AND almost got raped at a club. that was my experience up to 16.
then one night i threw aparty and got drunk and ended up losing my virginity with a stranger. Then got stuck in a violently deppressing world of sexual abuse and such. anyways.
the moral of the story, everybody feels that way up till some point of their life. if i knew you I would definitely help you out to get some skills on how to get agirl in bed. i dont knw if you're looking for a randum hookup or a relationship, but either way it can happen to you. read up on how to finger a girl and give her head correctly because once you make her cum it doesnt matter at what size your dick is. like,hands down. doesnt matter. iv fucked a couple guys with saller dck and they were great!