i am just seeking the opinions of those who are into this pickup artist stuff.

i personally am opposed to a lot of the tactics in the book because after watching a couple of my friends adopt this as their new bible, they've turned into one dimensional people...that is, their only reason ever for going out is to get laid or meet girls. and when they do, they use the same old routines. most of these routine stories are completely immersed in lies, and as a result, they can never meet a genuinely nice girl or establish any kind of relationship beyond a slutty booty call.

however, with that said, some of this stuff i would think could be useful, and i need a different approach because i really want the most recent girl i've met to actaully stick around. i guess what i'm really looking for here is tactical advice.

i know this girl through work, and everytime she walks by she stops to talk to me. really flirty, smiles a lot, and her body language indicates that she's into me. after a few weeks of these encounters of the same kind, i told her she should come up to my school and party...she said she was busy, but offered me her phone number and told me some other time.
a few days later i called her and asked her out for coffee. she wasn't in town, but told me to call back later in the week. at that point it almost appeared as if she was giving me the old run-around, so i decided not to call her that week, knowing that i'd see her at work the following saturday.
when i saw her, the first thing she did was ask me why i never called back, to which i responded i had a real busy week. she wants to make plans to go out, all seems well...
except i'm not positive but i think she may have a boyfriend.

since she hasn't mentioned it i figure it would be bad on my part to bring it up. but still, i'm not really sure what to do from here. my plan is to just take her out and show her a good time; being on a campus, it has a lot to offer so i can definitely make our little date unique.

i'm not looking to get laid here, she is a cool person that i want to keep around. what can i do here to improve my game, and in effect, my chances with her?

Just find a time when she is free and go out with her then - she isn't giving you the run around, she was just busy.

Give it another go.

What game are you talking about? Is it like Magic? Is there an in depth instruction book? Or failing that atleast a few overweight geeks willing to explain it to me in painstaking detail,twice, and then give me lots of free cards and their phone number?

Just dont go 100% with all the techniques to the point where thats all you know how to do, learn the hows/whys then use what you need to when the situation calls for...shit will still work like a charm and you wont seem like your out just to pick up some ass. Basically youll know what your doing and have the upper hand when it comes to the process. Its just like karate, just because u have the skill your not going around kicking peoples asses, but when u get into a hustle, you got it by the ass.

Keep things light then when you see the opportunity to inflict damage do it.

The idea of the PUA routines is that by doing it enough, you don't have to think at all about what you're saying and the timing, and you will have explored just about every possible reaction and conversational route from that to be able to line-up what you want to say/go into before you have to actually go into it etc - allowing you to come across how you desire to (i.e. smooth, confident, spontaneous, not one to pause/hesitate/worry about what you're saying/doing as it's not that important to you as you have other options etc).

Those routines are just one ingredient of the overall picture: projecting yourself as having a higher value than the girl you desire. She will only be attracted to you if she feels that your value exceeds her own. You just have to give off the impression that you're a high-status man. Don't be too needy (if she senses you have other options then it'll make you seem in demand, i.e. other people have already approved your company etc), always act well and friendly to others even if they make mistakes (a typical habit of low-status people is to unnecessarily attack, insult or act bitter towards others at any opportunity because they are used to being shat on by the world and so take any chance to do so to others to make themselves feel like they are not actually bottom of the pile - a person of higher value on the other hand would never be too bothered about these things). Little things like leaning back when you sit down and looking relaxed - a person of high status is always relaxed and in control.

Lots of comfortable, playful touching will help build a bond too, and don't be afraid to tease her in a playful way (as long as it's over nothing too personal). If you treat her like she's better than you, she will think she is and thus will not desire you. If the above does not come naturally to you, "fake it 'til you make it".

I have a new breakthrough strategy.

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Stop trying to be someone you are not!

Honestly though, just go talk to a girl, unless you are a complete creeper, you will find one that likes you for who you actually are. Find yourself a girl that likes you for you, and not because you can tell them what they want to hear.

I think Style (Neil Strauss) is a god amoung men. Has anyone actually seen this guy in person? He reminds me of 'Janice' off of friends, listen to him speak, but yet this guy when he was sarging could pick up some of the most beautiful women the world has seen.

I'm a firm believer in the game, but I think it should be used in moderation and shouldn't consume one's life the way that it did for these guys a while back.

They present some very logical explanations for female behavioral patterns, if you haven't read 'The Game' by Neil Strauss i'd recommend it. 'Be yourself' - All very well and good, but not everyone's a natural, some guys would have a terrible time attracting women by 'being themselves'.

What game are you talking about? Is it like Magic? Is there an in depth instruction book?

Yes there is....and it's by Leil Lowndes

Yea thats what my friend has been doing for years ^^^ and wheres he at? Going from average girls to garbage then back to average and now back to his old GF of 4 years. Getting manipulated by a girl hes soon to get engaged to....Yep Works great.

And who says ur trying to be someone your not? Some people act fake and pretend and others adapt to(changing) the mainstream. You cant expect to roll up on some girl and talk about your hobbies and what your good at in life and expect her to be like WOW this guy is something. Its conversation skills, talking about shit no one cares about wont get anyones attention, girl or guy. Once again friend mentioned above did this and he wonders why he cant get a NORMAL girl. They dont want to hear that shit, at least not in the beginning. Then he proceeds onward to diss on any girl thats a 7 or higher(LEGIT) because he knows he cant get her. Hate guys like that.

Confidence, balls, and teasing. And Confidence.

There you go. David DeAnglo in two sentences.

Just keep it playful, keep some touching. The confidence works wonders though. Anddddddddddddddddddd the worse that can happen is you get refused. Not the end of the world. So give it a shot, don't be afraid to call (don't call her twice if she calls you once though, that looks needy), and don't be afraid to suggest something.