This is not about the emotional part of it, but the physical part.

A couple days ago my girlfriend and I tried having sex for (her) first time. She's the first virgin I've been with... And I have to say it's been a lot harder then I've heard.

She's built really small, about 5' 4", 115lb, 17 years old...

I tried a few times but she was too tight and she seemed like she was in so much pain. I got in maybe an inch at the most before she told me to stop so she can have a break.

Eventually we tried Vaseline and Spit to help lubricate, but to much of my dismay it didn't work...

So, &TOTSE, what do I do now?

I'm thinking of buying lube, but I'm not sure what kind. Would KY Warming lube burn her if she was bleeding? Astroglide?

Some things to consider;

No drugs or alcohol, she doesn't do neither.

Also, a couple of other questions...

1) How many times, usually, does it take until the girl starts to enjoy sex, and not have it being painful?

2) How long is she supposed to bleed?.. Although I only got in about an inch, she's been bleeding a little ever since.

3) Are all girls this tight, because she told me that all her friends didn't have it as bad as she's having it.

Well, any input is appreciated.

PS: For those of you who remember my thread posted last July 3rd, the one where I was having trouble giving a girl her first kiss... This is the same girl. Just an update if anyone remembers.

Even when she says 'stop', keep inching it in.

Never stop.

I always assumed that it's best when the girl is relaxed. When I keep pushing in she tenses up and tried to push me off...

I also don't think I can just not stop when she asks me to, for moral reasons...

I want her to be comfortable with me...

Rape jokes aside, is my theory flawed?

No. If she says stop, you should stop, especially because if you don't, it's rape.

I can't answer a lot of your questions, but I will say that the amount of time sex hurts before it feels good for women varies; it can go from 1 time to up to 6 months.

Sucks, huh?

Good for you for being such a good guy about it, though.

Don't get the warming lube; it's meant to be a supplicant to regular lube, if you use just that it'll probably burn her.

Regrettably I've got nothing to add besides the fact that by this time next week I will have fucked a 5'0" scene girl.

Awh man, it's going to be loads of fun :)

Good luck OP!

-f☺rd

Today i had sex for the first time.

Holy shit she was tight O_o It took honestly about 30 minutes from inching it in, waiting until she had "accepted" the growth, until i could push in a little more.

I'd broken her hymen by fingering her, but i guess i stretched it out more this time.

She orgasmed, while i was pretty bored. Once we got a rythem going (pretty moderate), she orgasmed again and then was just worn out. so she just jacked me off =/

I told her im going to Rite-Aid and buying some lubricant b/c she just wasn't wet enough despite me eating her out a couple times. The condom was pretty dry too, so that might've made it uncomfortable for her.

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Off-tangent. Can someone explain this? Every girl i've ever been close sexually with has said this.

"I've been hurt in the past." And they mean emotionally.. wtf, they try to implicate me like i'd hurt them. Maybe it's just the sociopath in me, but wtf. "im not afraid you'll hurt me." Why say that to me, why do i give a shit?

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Problem solved.

lawl
but i have the same problem
you just get past it
i like it when it hurts though
so...i dunno

You have two things to do.

1) Get her a little more comfortable before you try again. If you try oral sex for a while, and use your fingers as stimuli, you can slowly stretch her out a little. Start with one finger, then two, etc.

2) Give the girl a little more foreplay. Don't make her feel like she's at the gynecologist. Sure, relaxed is good, but turn that girl on man! As far as I'm concerned, if you have done it right, you should not need lube in any way, shape, or form; other than what she produces herself. Just generally get her into more of a "Yay! Sex!" mood than "Oh god, sex!? The fuck is going on?"

Good choice of brick too, that'll take anyone out in 2 hits.

Hey I had the same problem with my girl when we started doing it a couple months ago. Before we started to do it, I would try to use two fingers on her to try and stretch her out every time we got a little sexually active so she would be a little bit more ready for when we did try it the first time. We had her on top, and she said it was the best way to do it because she can control how far she wants it to go in by lowering her self onto it. that way you dont have to control anything, you get to just lay there and stare at her naked :)

it took quite a few times of us doing it before she stopped hurting and really started to enjoy it, even now she still hurts a little when it first goes in, but loves it now.

So ya to sum it up try fingering her adding extra fingers when possible, make sure shes really wet, and try having her on top so she can control it. But the most important thing is have patients!!!! Good luck man, hope i helped ya out a little, lemme know if you need me to clear anything up.

That and try using baby oil.

let her go on top, give her some control. it'll happen.

I always assumed that it's best when the girl is relaxed. When I keep pushing in she tenses up and tried to push me off...

I also don't think I can just not stop when she asks me to, for moral reasons...

I want her to be comfortable with me...

Rape jokes aside, is my theory flawed?

No. Your theory is correct.

Relaxation is key. Perhaps a massage first and such, and then go onto the sex. Using lube would make it much easier, and since she's very relaxed, that should hopefully make it easier.

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Off-tangent. Can someone explain this? Every girl i've ever been close sexually with has said this.

"I've been hurt in the past." And they mean emotionally.. wtf, they try to implicate me like i'd hurt them. Maybe it's just the sociopath in me, but wtf. "im not afraid you'll hurt me." Why say that to me, why do i give a shit?

Basically it is either:

A. Telling you she isn't expecting a relationship

B. Emo

lern2foreplay

i can't believe nobody's said this yet... just have her get on top and do what she's comfortable with.

let her go on top, give her some control. it'll happen.

Hahaha.

Hahaha.

awww... :(

awww... :(

Its okay. :(

Pretend that guy doesn't exist, and you win. :D

Its okay. :(

Pretend that guy doesn't exist, and you win. :D

yay! my teacher is now wondering why i can't stop smiling while he's talking about people dying...

Don't jam it right in or you'll give her a complex.

Alright, thanks for the responses.

Having her on top wont do, I already asked her if she wants to try it... She'd rather not.

About the foreplay; I always do plenty of foreplay. She gets worked up quite a bit... Almost to the point where she begs me to finish her. So, that's not really the issue... Like I said this is her first time for everything, so it's been a little educational for her, and me as well.

I s'pose I'll try to "fit a few more fingers"...

I really think she's just small for her size... and damn if it hurts for 6 months, we have a problem. I'm the type of person who gets off watching the girl enjoy it...

Damn.

I really think she's just small for her size... and damn if it hurts for 6 months, we have a problem. I'm the type of person who gets off watching the girl enjoy it...

Damn.

Hah. Because it's going to be YOUR problem if sex hurts for six months. Not hers, of course. She's not the one who has to put up with it.

yay! my teacher is now wondering why i can't stop smiling while he's talking about people dying...

Rofl. Tell him you're crazy.

I had the same problem as your girlfriend, only not to that extent. I'm not built as small as she is, but I was still relatively tight down there, and it didn't help that my boyfriend is hung like a friggen horse.

The first time we did it, he'd have to go in a little bit, then wait in that same position for a bit 'til i got used to it. It took about 5 minutes for him to get himself fully in, and after that he stayed in all the way without moving (which must have been really hard for him, because he was losing his virginity too, and I imagine the urge to thrust would have been unbelievably strong) for a while.

It would have been a lot worse if I was on top. I liked having him on top, but it wouldn't have worked if he hadn't had so much self control and patience.

And there's NEVER any shame in using lube. It doesn't matter how turned on I am, sometimes there just isn't enough. It's not always a problem, but sometimes for whatever reason I just won't get wet enough.

Bottom line: Use lube (just regular, no tingling/cooling/warming stuff for now), go slow, and do what she's comfortable with. Well, you'll have to push past her comfort zone a little, because it WILL hurt, no way around it. But as long as she can stand it, it'll quickly turn from pain to pleasure.

it'll quickly turn from pain to pleasure.

How quick?

Not as quick as you might hope. I had a friend who was insanely tight. It took 6 months for her and her boyfriend to finally manage to have sex pain free.

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You must be some hideous fat fuck that make all the malldwellers in the cybercafe cringe. Your girlfriend is prolly only hangin' with you to leech off on your cash and offerings to take her out to lunch. And she figured she wouldn't feel like a retarded dyke if she practiced her first time with a dumbshit faggot like yourself. But ultimately she still fails to even take your prolly 5-inch white-as-death boner.

Obviously your problem is gettin' her to feel free and relaxed cuz you fail at numerous things including an appealing body image, an actual personality and the like.

My girlfriend is also about 5"5 and 115 and I never ended up in a pathetic situation like yours. You may wanna try eatin' her out -- tease her at first and then gradually up the velocity of the tongue fucking, if she orgasms, you'll know shes ready. Foreplay is the key, but subjective in your case.

Just accept the fact that no chick wants you 'sept an inexperienced 17-year-old mormon chick. Go buy yourself a hooker, man.

Well, you see Xpenguin17, not everyone wants to fuck the town slut like you, who's about as tight as trying to fuck an empty paint can, so what is he to do?

My GF is reallllly tight =/

whats a good lube to use? the condoms i have are regular with no lube on them.

You must be some hideous fat fuck that make all the malldwellers in the cybercafe cringe. Your girlfriend is prolly only hangin' with you to leech off on your cash and offerings to take her out to lunch. And she figured she wouldn't feel like a retarded dyke if she practiced her first time with a dumbshit faggot like yourself. But ultimately she still fails to even take your prolly 5-inch white-as-death boner.

Obviously your problem is gettin' her to feel free and relaxed cuz you fail at numerous things including an appealing body image, an actual personality and the like.

My girlfriend is also about 5"5 and 115 and I never ended up in a pathetic situation like yours. You may wanna try eatin' her out -- tease her at first and then gradually up the velocity of the tongue fucking, if she orgasms, you'll know shes ready. Foreplay is the key, but subjective in your case.

Just accept the fact that no chick wants you 'sept an inexperienced 17-year-old mormon chick. Go buy yourself a hooker, man.

The fact that you assaulted me with so much vigor sort of shows my situation hit a sore spot with you. I'm not sure what the hell your problem is, whether it is true that your girlfriend is pretty much loose like fucking a paint can, or the fact that you're just an internet looser who envies the chance to actually have sex with a girl. Either way, your advice has already been said, or isn't applicable to this situation.

So, please, go huff some raid.

As for the other advice, thanks.

Blades of Hate, try using extra lubricated condoms. You might have more luck then I did. Just be sure that when you open the condom, put it on and inside of her asap, from my experience the lube dries insanely fast... which renders it pointless.

I had the same problem with my girlfriend, maybe even worse. We ended up getting drunk.

If you're using condoms, be sure to use water-based lube, because oil-based can damage latex condoms.

and to the OP:

It took a couple months before my boyfriend and I could have sex completely pain free, but it would just be maybe 5 minutes or so at the beginning where he had to go very slow, then I would be loose enough for it to not hurt anymore and we could really get into things. So completely pain free sex took a couple months, but we still enjoyed it. We just had to take it slow.

Regrettably I've got nothing to add besides the fact that by this time next week I will have fucked a 5'0" scene girl.

Awh man, it's going to be loads of fun :)

Good luck OP!

-f?rd

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Its okay. :(

Pretend that guy doesn't exist, and you win. :D

*that gal