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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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2007-09-28, 05:36
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I had Mormons over today
Today I had two missionaries from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to my place. It was interesting. I got a free Book of Mormon as well as a picture of Jesus hovering above Aztec pyramids. They were really high on Jesus, in the same way I get high off weed.
Does anyone else invite random religious people to their house? I'm going to invite some Buddhists and Muslims sometime. I really want to have a bunch of different people over at once and we can have a big roundtable discussion.
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2007-09-28, 17:32
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Re: I had Mormons over today
im a buddhist. and my parents are pretty hardcore about it. they have a blind faith about it. but there are ppl of other relegeons that have come to my place.
it would be nice to have a discussion on various relegios views here on totse
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2007-09-28, 22:30
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"I got a free Book of Mormon as well as a picture of Jesus hovering above Aztec pyramids."
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That's what I love about "modern" religious movements; as rediculous as the imagery from classical religions already are, the newer ones always seem to take it to the next level of insanity.
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2007-09-28, 23:33
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Re: I had Mormons over today
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the newer ones always seem to take it to the next level of insanity.
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2007-09-29, 02:45
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Re: I had Mormons over today
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Originally Posted by Vegetable Man
They were really high on Jesus, in the same way I get high off weed.
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Perhaps LDS (Latter Day Saints) is the LSD of the Christian world.
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2007-09-29, 03:45
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Why doesn't he have a fro? Or dreds?
A lamb? Wheres the fucking chillum?
WTF?
Last edited by Obbe; 2007-09-29 at 04:02.
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2007-09-29, 06:23
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Re: I had Mormons over today
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That's what I love about "modern" religious movements; as rediculous as the imagery from classical religions already are, the newer ones always seem to take it to the next level of insanity.
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There's a painting in the Book of Mormon they gave me where Jesus is walking amongst the Aztecs. It's weeeiiirrrddd. I think it's kind of groovy though.
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2007-09-30, 00:02
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Re: I had Mormons over today
The Mormons have yet to explain how Jesus got across the Bering Straight Land Bridge to get into the Americas in the first place.
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2007-09-30, 01:01 |
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The Mormons have yet to explain how Jesus got across the Bering Straight Land Bridge to get into the Americas in the first place.
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dude, he's jesus... he'll get across the the Bering Straight however he pleases and you are not to question it! |
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Re: I had Mormons over today
dude, he's jesus... he'll get across the the Bering Straight however he pleases and you are not to question it!
Sorry. :o
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The Mormons have yet to explain how Jesus got across the Bering Straight Land Bridge to get into the Americas in the first place.
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He walked there. |
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2007-09-30, 03:07 |
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Re: I had Mormons over today
Oh Snap!!111!@!!!1
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2007-09-30, 04:44 |
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Sad thing is im mormon.
I hate it when missionaries come, and at church im the rebel, and none of the other kids talk to me, only becuase I punched another one of them in church.
Yeah most mormon boys are Preps, The ones who think there hot shit.
But i havnt gone to church in months.
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Originally Posted by Insidious
Sad thing is im mormon.
I hate it when missionaries come, and at church im the rebel, and none of the other kids talk to me, only becuase I punched another one of them in church.
Yeah most mormon boys are Preps, The ones who think there hot shit.
But i havnt gone to church in months.
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2007-09-30, 08:30 |
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Re: I had Mormons over today
Do you live in Utah?
of course he does
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2007-09-30, 09:06 |
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ROFL no but ive been there, I hated it way to many mormans.
Everyone one in my religion is preppy and goodly. And im so fucking drunk right now. lUnlike my mormon comrades.
And i live in oregon.
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2007-09-30, 14:31 |
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Re: I had Mormons over today
My sister got married to one. I don't think she convereted though. When I got to the lobby in the church there was a picture of Jesus with his hands out, it looked like he just made an apperance in Apocolypto. We couldn't go into the chaple, because we wern't Mormon. So they got married on a basketball court with carpeting. Ceremony lasted literally two minutes. Bad food, I liked the punch though.
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2007-09-30, 15:02 |
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dude, he's jesus... he'll get across the the Bering Straight however he pleases and you are not to question it!
best post so far...
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2007-09-30, 19:46 |
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Yeah, I hate my state.
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2007-10-01, 08:24 |
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My buds and Just got back from denver (road trip to see Rise Against/Sum41. Badass concert)
We drove through salt lake cuase my buds wanted to see the temple. They asked me for directions even tho ive only been there one time before, but hey my mormon homing beacon worked.
Best part about being in salt lake city, was blaring Lamb of God and KillSwitch and sometime yelling out at random "Hail Satan"
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2007-10-01, 09:00 |
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Originally Posted by Insidious
My buds and Just got back from denver (road trip to see Rise Against/Sum41. Badass concert)
We drove through salt lake cuase my buds wanted to see the temple. They asked me for directions even tho ive only been there one time before, but hey my mormon homing beacon worked.
Best part about being in salt lake city, was blaring Lamb of God and KillSwitch and sometime yelling out at random "Hail Satan"
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Most people won't bat an eyelid in Salt Lake, it's the rest of the state that's fucked up. |
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2007-10-01, 10:31 |
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I hear there is cult around Utah, I think they call themselves
"revived Mormons" or something like that. Basicly they follow christian beliefs. But they take one of the old mormon Ideas. back in the 1800's which was polygamy. Do you knwo anything about that.
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2007-10-01, 15:56 |
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Im a christian but i sometimes fucking hate other christians like preaching the whole time god will save us and if you do this shit you go to hell bullshit.
let people decide for themself ffs and live your life the way so that it doesn't collide with other lifestyles.
Don't get me wrong I believe in god, but I dont think your should be 24/7 just be busy with god, just live your life like he intended ;).
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2007-10-01, 19:12 |
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Re: I had Mormons over today
At the risk of sounding judgemental, LDS is one of the loonier cults around today. I mean, you got your golden angelic plates that mysteriously vanished, the weird underware, the practice of marrying dead people, the polygamy--good grief.
What really amuses me is seeing these LDS cheerleaders running around with white shirts and ties, and little name plates identifying them as "Elder Jones" or whatever--and many of them are kids who look like they aren't even old enough to shave.
"Elder," my Aunt fanny.
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2007-10-01, 20:24 |
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At the risk of sounding judgemental, LDS is one of the loonier cults around today. I mean, you got your golden angelic plates that mysteriously vanished, the weird underware, the practice of marrying dead people, the polygamy--good grief.
What really amuses me is seeing these LDS cheerleaders running around with white shirts and ties, and little name plates identifying them as "Elder Jones" or whatever--and many of them are kids who look like they aren't even old enough to shave.
"Elder," my Aunt fanny.
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As a secular humanist living in Utah I can safely say that most of that is rumours.
The cult lives on the border between Utah and Arizona, and they do live completely different lives. |
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2007-10-01, 21:04 |
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The Mormons have yet to explain how Jesus got across the Bering Straight Land Bridge to get into the Americas in the first place.
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This is true... but Christians in general have yet to explain how a guy turns water into wine, heals the sick, walks on water, and rises from the tomb. Or how a guy gathers up two of every animal in the world and fits them on one boat. Or how a guy can survive inside of a whale. Or how a guy can part the Red Sea. Or how all of humanity, with so much genetic diversity, can be spawned from two people. Or how the universe was created in seven days, despite carbon dating. Or how dinosaur bones got here... etc etc.
I used to think the Mormons were a ridiculous bunch of people... for their silliness of a belief structure. Then one day it hit me, that two thousand years of tradition doesn't make Christianity any less silly. They're all a ridiculous bunch of people. |
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2007-10-01, 21:08 |
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This is true... but Christians in general have yet to explain how a guy turns water into wine, heals the sick, walks on water, and rises from the tomb. Or how a guy gathers up two of every animal in the world and fits them on one boat. Or how a guy can survive inside of a whale. Or how a guy can part the Red Sea. Or how all of humanity, with so much genetic diversity, can be spawned from two people. Or how the universe was created in seven days, despite carbon dating. Or how dinosaur bones got here... etc etc.
I used to think the Mormons were a ridiculous bunch of people... for their silliness of a belief structure. Then one day it hit me, that two thousand years of tradition doesn't make Christianity any less silly. They're all a ridiculous bunch of people.
nshanin would agree with everything you just posted....
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2007-10-02, 03:24 |
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This is true... but Christians in general have yet to explain how a guy turns water into wine, heals the sick, walks on water, and rises from the tomb. Or how a guy gathers up two of every animal in the world and fits them on one boat. Or how a guy can survive inside of a whale. Or how a guy can part the Red Sea. Or how all of humanity, with so much genetic diversity, can be spawned from two people. Or how the universe was created in seven days, despite carbon dating. Or how dinosaur bones got here... etc etc.
I used to think the Mormons were a ridiculous bunch of people... for their silliness of a belief structure. Then one day it hit me, that two thousand years of tradition doesn't make Christianity any less silly. They're all a ridiculous bunch of people.
Some of that stuff has been explained. Like Red sea is a mistranslation of reed see, which actually does "part" during dry seasons. And I didn't think anyone thought the world was literally created in seven days, what it has to do with carbon dating regardless is beyond me. I'm not a Bible thumper either, but I like having my facts straight.
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2007-10-02, 06:12 |
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Re: I had Mormons over today
nshanin would agree with everything you just posted....
I would :D
My favorite rebuttal of Christianity is Zeitgeist; simple, concise, movie.
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2007-10-02, 14:41 |
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I would :D
My favorite rebuttal of Christianity is Zeitgeist; simple, concise, movie.
You've mentioned that flick several times now.... I think I will have a look myself.
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2007-10-02, 20:05 |
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Re: I had Mormons over today
You've mentioned that flick several times now.... I think I will have a look myself.
Only twice actually.
www.zeitgeistmovie.com
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2007-10-02, 20:49 |
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Originally Posted by Insidious
My buds and Just got back from denver (road trip to see Rise Against/Sum41. Badass concert)
We drove through salt lake cuase my buds wanted to see the temple. They asked me for directions even tho ive only been there one time before, but hey my mormon homing beacon worked.
Best part about being in salt lake city, was blaring Lamb of God and KillSwitch and sometime yelling out at random "Hail Satan"
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Drunk bastard. Your so full of crap. The best thing about the trip was burning out in the wal-mart parking complex thing, and then being talked to by the rent a cop.... that or me always thinking that there was a cop car behind us. It paid off that one time there actualy was.
>I don't beleive in Joseph Smith, and I approve this message< |
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2007-10-02, 21:02 |
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Only twice actually.
www.zeitgeistmovie.com
What I meant was that I value your opinion... hence I will view the flick.  |
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2007-10-02, 23:05 |
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ROFL no but ive been there, I hated it way to many mormans.
Everyone one in my religion is preppy and goodly. And im so fucking drunk right now. lUnlike my mormon comrades.
And i live in oregon.
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Drinking ethyl alcohol, a combustible substance, is pretty damn fucking hardcore man! I mean come on, who doesnt know how to drink and be cool at once. This kid is so fucking awesome |
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2007-10-03, 02:02 |
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Ok, we've all heard the christianity is stupid, so let's see you guys bash hinduism and their god Vishnu, and Buddhism and their lardy buddah.
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2007-10-03, 05:46 |
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Buddhism is a philosophy, and thus is as valid as any philosophy.
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Buddhism is a philosophy, and thus is as valid as any philosophy.
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fail.
instead of concentrating on the numerous lies told by cults, why not concentrate on the means with which they get people to believe in these lies. it's universal for many people
dotdotdotdotdotdot |
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2007-10-04, 04:23 |
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"Ok, we've all heard the christianity is stupid, so let's see you guys bash hinduism and their god Vishnu, and Buddhism and their lardy buddah."
When they start fucking up my shit (as I'm sure they would given the chance, as with anything else) I'll give 'em hell.
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fail.
instead of concentrating on the numerous lies told by cults, why not concentrate on the means with which they get people to believe in these lies. it's universal for many people
dotdotdotdotdotdot
Instead of telling me that everything I know is a lie, why don't you at least go about proving it, or at least link me a web page.  |
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Instead of telling me that everything I know is a lie, why don't you at least go about proving it, or at least link me a web page.
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Sorry, I wouldn't waste my time trying to "unconvert" someone.
lulz.
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2007-10-04, 22:42 |
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The Mormons have yet to explain how Jesus got across the Bering Straight Land Bridge to get into the Americas in the first place.
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He crip-walked across
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8666/jesuswshr3.jpg |
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im a buddhist. and my parents are pretty hardcore about it. they have a blind faith about it. but there are ppl of other relegeons that have come to my place.
it would be nice to have a discussion on various relegios views here on totse
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why is it that people always say buddhism is not a religion, that it's a philosophy?
I understand it's heavy in philosophical values, but that doesn't mean that there isn't crazy bullshit buried in it like every other religion.
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2007-10-05, 14:26
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why is it that people always say buddhism is not a religion, that it's a philosophy?
I understand it's heavy in philosophical values, but that doesn't mean that there isn't crazy bullshit buried in it like every other religion.
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It really depends on the form of Buddhism; just like some Jesuits have attempted to take all the mythology out of Christianity so only the bare philosophy is left; however, the majority of Buddhism is philosophy, rather than the other way around for most religions (Christianity, Hinduism, to name a few), and a lot of the directions that you take in Buddhism don't have to be mythological and that'll be normal; whereas in Christianity, to deny the virgin birth, the ascension, the trinity, etc. is utter blasphemy and certainly unchristian.
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2007-10-05, 16:58 |
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Or how a guy can survive inside of a whale.
I think that was Moby Dick.
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I think that was Moby Dick.
Moby Dick was about a whaling ship that was destroyed by a whale, the fable of Jonah, where a man survives in a whale is part of the Old Testament.
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Buddhism is a philosophy, and thus is as valid as any philosophy.
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Actually, like hinduism, it is the philosophy of finding a way out of karmic bonds and ties through karmic meditation and yoga. By karmic bonds I (and krishna) refer to the cycle of reincarnation which is heavily endorsed by both hinduism, and buddhism, which is a branch of hinduism, embracing sidartha guautama as the 8th avatar of vishnu. So, like christianity, it has it's valid points, but also full of mere exaggeriations only told to strengthen the faith of the followers. People just distort like clay into what they want for their own personal gain. |
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He crip-walked across
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8666/jesuswshr3.jpg
i loled
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Actually, like hinduism, it is the philosophy of finding a way out of karmic bonds and ties through karmic meditation and yoga. By karmic bonds I (and krishna) refer to the cycle of reincarnation which is heavily endorsed by both hinduism, and buddhism, which is a branch of hinduism, embracing sidartha guautama as the 8th avatar of vishnu. So, like christianity, it has it's valid points, but also full of mere exaggeriations only told to strengthen the faith of the followers. People just distort like clay into what they want for their own personal gain.
Virtually any religion will have its mythical aspects, but the core of Buddhist beliefs (that is, the minimum that is required to be considered Buddhist by most standards) AFAIK is just philosophy. Yes, most Buddhists will believe in reincarnation, some form of Buddhist cosmology, etc., but at their core, all Buddhists believe in certain philosophical truths even though the mythological aspects differ from Buddhist to Buddhist.
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2007-10-11, 22:23 |
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Virtually any religion will have its mythical aspects, but the core of Buddhist beliefs (that is, the minimum that is required to be considered Buddhist by most standards) AFAIK is just philosophy. Yes, most Buddhists will believe in reincarnation, some form of Buddhist cosmology, etc., but at their core, all Buddhists believe in certain philosophical truths even though the mythological aspects differ from Buddhist to Buddhist.
And what is that philosophy revolving around? Breaking karmic bonds and ties.
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