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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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#1
 2007-09-20, 23:59
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Bestiality..
So, has anyone here ever sampled the forbidden fruit of man-on-animal-on-man relations? I'm honestly curious as to how people view this and if anyone here is willing to talk about their experiences.
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#2
 2007-09-21, 00:03
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Re: Bestiality..
Did you miss the 10 page "Sex With Dolphins" thread?
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#3
 2007-09-21, 00:06
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Re: Bestiality..
Kinda fucked up? with more emphasis on the fucked up?
man if you have to resort to raping un-human pussy to get pussy, thats really low.
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#4
 2007-09-21, 00:06
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Re: Bestiality..
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Originally Posted by robinhoody
Did you miss the 10 page "Sex With Dolphins" thread?
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I reckon so. Maybe it should have been made sticky?
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#5
 2007-09-21, 00:10
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Re: Bestiality..
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Originally Posted by person
Kinda fucked up? with more emphasis on the fucked up?
man if you have to resort to raping un-human pussy to get pussy, thats really low.
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What's really low is having to live in a sexually repressive society.
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#6
 2007-09-21, 00:14
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Re: Bestiality..
I reckon so. Maybe it should have been made sticky?
I'm pretty sure that thread was sticky enough on its own...
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#7
 2007-09-21, 00:17
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Re: Bestiality..
^^lol at above.
I'm curious though. Can an animal consent to sexual relations? They may not be able to bend over and scream fuck me in the ass you stallion, but I guess they might have their own signals and body language based on their relationship with the human. Any other zoo-curious folks?
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#8
 2007-09-21, 00:24
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Re: Bestiality..
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Originally Posted by SmackNixon
^^lol at above.
I'm curious though. Can an animal consent to sexual relations? They may not be able to bend over and scream fuck me in the ass you stallion, but I guess they might have their own signals and body language based on their relationship with the human. Any other zoo-curious folks?
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Animals dont have the intelligence to consent.
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#9
 2007-09-21, 00:35
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Re: Bestiality..
^^
True, most probably don't. What if you were involved with a highlands gorilla or another ape of nearly human intelligence. What then?
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#10
 2007-09-21, 00:46
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Animals dont have the intelligence to consent.
This is a perfect example of what they want you to think.
The only problem with animal human sexual relationships is the fact that people find it disgusting and morally wrong. Sure, once and a while some kind of accident happens, but that's to be expected with ANYTHING. How many car crashes happen, cars are never banned, alcohol will never get outlawed again.
The only reason an animal wouldn't consent to sex is A. You're a male fucking a male animal, animals naturally don't usually like anal sex, oral is fine though. Or B. It feels threatened. Or maybe C. It just doesn't feel like it, try again later.
Go up to a mare (if it trusts you) rub your hand along it's vagina. Watch it and see if theres ANY question of consent. Animals function on instinct, they don't need to consent. They're not like us, fucking things up with our thinking.
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#11
 2007-09-21, 02:40
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Re: Bestiality..
Go up to a mare (if it trusts you) rub your hand along it's vagina..
No, no thank you.
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#12
 2007-09-21, 02:54
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Re: Bestiality..
LOL.
come on Exo, just once. in the spirit of experimentation.
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#13
 2007-09-21, 14:36
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Re: Bestiality..
Go up to a mare (if it trusts you) rub your hand along it's vagina.
Weirdest thing I've ever been asked to do.
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#14
 2007-09-21, 20:24
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bullshit, bullshit, bullshit,
Animal fucker
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#15
 2007-09-21, 20:47
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Re: Bestiality..
It's not really a question of morality to me as much as a question of cleanliness. I don't care how much you bathe a dog, it still licks its own ass after it shits. Animals just aren't as clean as humans. I'm not really sure if you can catch a disease by fucking a different animal, but I'm not willing to find out. Also, quite frankly, animals don't do it for me. If you like them then that's your business, though. I wont judge.
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#16
 2007-09-21, 23:35
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Animal fucker
LOL, can't even come up with an intelligent response besides a shitty insult...
Fail.
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#17
 2007-09-21, 23:47
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LOL, can't even come up with an intelligent response besides a shitty insult...
Fail.
Does nigh on admitting to having sex with an animal require an intelligent response?
I think animal fucker covers it quite well, really.
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#18
 2007-09-22, 03:01
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What's really low is having to live in a sexually repressive society.
methinks he has.
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#19
 2007-09-22, 08:33
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Re: Bestiality..
I'm curious though. Can an animal consent to sexual relations? They may not be able to bend over and scream fuck me in the ass you stallion, but I guess they might have their own signals and body language based on their relationship with the human.
Well, if you try to make a 2,500 pound bull do something, you are very certainly going to know the bull's exact opinion before it's over. Promise. ;)
Does nigh on admitting to having sex with an animal require an intelligent response?
I think animal fucker covers it quite well, really.
This just in : homosexuals are gay. Film at 11.
...now, on to the more pressing questions of S&A...
I'm not really sure if you can catch a disease by fucking a different animal...
Yes! Yes you can! Rabies if the dog/bat/whatever is rabid, tetanus from fucking horses... cat scratch fever from fucking cats? It could happen...
...and yes, if you ever successfully fuck a plague rat, the black plague is in fact a possible outcome. Also, if you ever successfully fuck a rat, you have a really tiny penis.
Luckily for S&A, the UK has so many sheepfuckers it created a safer-sex guide. (http://www.hpa.org.uk/infections/topics_az/zoonoses/menu.asp) So, when you're out there in the field sexing sally the sow, remember to give a little "god save the queen" for helping you out!
'cause, really.... who doesn't love a monarch who's hip enough to help a sheepfucker out?
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#20
 2007-09-22, 14:34
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Um, you'll definitely know if an animal is consenting or not. They obviously aren't able to verbally consent. But if they don't want you to do something, they can very easily run away, or bite you.
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#21
 2007-09-22, 14:38
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Re: Bestiality..
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Originally Posted by SmackNixon
So, has anyone here ever sampled the forbidden fruit of man-on-animal-on-man relations? I'm honestly curious as to how people view this and if anyone here is willing to talk about their experiences.
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Interspecies erotica, fucko.
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#22
 2007-09-23, 00:49
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Why is the thread focused on whether or not the animal conscents since most sex in the animal kingdom isn't conscentual. Rape is the norm. Who cares if the sheep wants it, it's getting it if it doesn't escape. IMHO, I'd rather have sheep fucker than rapists to worry about.
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#23
 2007-09-23, 04:37
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What's really low is having to live in a sexually repressive society.
Ya? Well I'm sexually attracted to rose bushes, and your feet.
Don't you DARE repress me when I throw you in a rose bush and start rapping.
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#24
 2007-09-23, 04:47
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Ya? Well I'm sexually attracted to rose bushes, and your feet.
Don't you DARE repress me when I throw you in a rose bush and start rapping.There's only one p in raping, thank you....
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#25
 2007-09-23, 07:10
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There's only one p in raping, thank you....
Maybe he wants to toss someone into the bush and break out into his bad ass rhymes
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#26
 2007-09-23, 12:01
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Re: Bestiality..
this is pretty dam fucked up
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#27
 2007-09-23, 12:17
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this is pretty dam fucked up
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No kidding. Who the fuck would bust rhymes when there's a hot rose bush just waiting to be sexed up right in front of you???
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#28
 2007-09-24, 07:53
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Re: Bestiality..
No kidding. Who the fuck would bust rhymes when there's a hot rose bush just waiting to be sexed up right in front of you???
huh??.....wtf?!
lol...and oh yeah btw.....I'm back! :D
onwards to new business at hand.....I feel like I'm repeating myself again, but yes, it's true that animals can consent to sex....needless to say it cannot be expressed verbally, but any behavioral analyst can tell you that animals, like humans, respond to stimuli for all their actions. An intelligent animal (a dolphin for instance) can receive a sexual stimulus and react to that stimulus in a form which can be taken as consent, since the same reaction is generally given to the opposite sex of the same species (i.e. undersides turn pink and or other behavioral gestures such as rubbing or humping). AND....contrary to popular belief, animals (mainly those of higher intelligence) CAN differentiate between a human and one of their own species......I can get all technical about it but I prefer we just leave it at that.
Moving on, I feel that I must also draw to attention the misconceptions of many in society who feel that people who find any form of love or sexual interest in animals are "immoral" "sick" or "disgusting" are quite biased and opinionated and should rightfully keep their opinions to themselves. It is not a "sickness" but a genuine preference, and as for the moral issue it is clear that morality has never had clear boundaries, otherwise we would all still be living like the Amish. The fact is, morals are to each man a different definition, so drop the morality issue already! As far as religious aspects are concerned, you better think twice before you go telling me I'll burn in hell for loving an animal......I doubt God would preach of so much love an compassion if he were to only damn those who actually followed through. Besides, religious texts are so heavily biased by their writers that I guarantee you that more than half the stuff is man's additions to limit and control society to his favor rathor than God's will. And if you really want to get all literal, then anyone out there who's commited sodomy or adultry....well I guess we'll all burn in hell together then if it's true (did you forget so easily that those were listen in there too?)
In closing, I must add this conclusion. We (zoophiles) are here to stay, and there's nothing anyone of you who tries to preach how wrong or immoral YOU think we are can do to stop us from what we love. I love dolphins....in my opinion, they are the cleanest, kindest, most compassionate, beautiful and intelligent beings in the world......true you might say that they're animals and that they're not as intelligent as we humans are, but tell me.....what defines intelligence? Is it this ability to communicate with one another? To speak? They can speak....we just dont understand it....does that make us less intelligent for not understanding what they say? Or maybe it's human kind's ability for ingenuity and creativity? What good is that when our own creativity is used for the creation of bombs, for industrialization which is polluting our environment, for the greed that runs rampant among us, only to be masked in the name of capitalism.....all elements leading to our eventual demise.....is this intelligence? Intelligence is found in compassion.....in love for your fellow beings, not in greed and self centered deeds. Intelligence is being able to see your opressors and still have the ability to forgive them for their wrong-doings, not the constant cycle of attacks and revenge. Consider these facts, then tell me are we really so goddamn smart as we think we are and proclaim ourselves to be? Perhaps the greatest show of intelligence is humility...acknowledging the fact that we know nothing. You know nothing about us...about our love...about our feelings for our particular species....yet in adhering to the human way you so readily judge us and demean our existence.....label us and eventually ban us from the rest of your "perfect" society. Well you know what.....it's yours....you can have it...at least dolphins dont readily stab you in the back or betray you when you need them most.
Anyway, I'm through trying to prove a point....and I'm sure I'll get plenty of criticism from all you who are bent on believing that you're right and I'm wrong....even though you've never tried it yourself to see.....so I and hopefully everyone else with common sense out there will simply ignore your baseless biased remarks and instead pity you for the sexual repression in which you force yourself to live in.
*BTW: Our dolphin sex thread got to 32 pages and 11,000+ page views :D *
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#29
 2007-09-24, 14:13
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Re: Bestiality..
Very interesting! Thank you for your outlook, darkside. I wish I hadn't missed your dolphin thread. One more thing I'm curious about, since dolphins are your preference. Do you stick to a single dolphin, or do you go from individual to individual?
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#30
 2007-09-24, 20:24
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Whole intelligence rant
Intelligence: capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc.
Capacity for learning. Don't tell me we haven't gained capacity over time. In the BC's do you think they learned something like Algebra or Chemistry? No, they learned a specific trade and that's it. Over time we have had to expand our mines to learn more and more such as these things.
How much have dolphins achieved throughout the years. I don't see them down there trying to make catching dinner easier.
....Perhaps the greatest show of intelligence is humility...acknowledging the fact that we know nothing.
Don't quote Socrates and then not give him credit for it.
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#31
 2007-09-24, 22:24
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How much have dolphins achieved throughout the years. I don't see them down there trying to make catching dinner easier.
*sigh*.........
you're all so bent on having them conform to your definitions of intelligence......well fine...here's some examples:
Dolphins have invented a range of feeding strategies that more than match the diversity of habitats in which they live. In an estuary off the coast of Brazil, tucuxi dolphins are regularly seen capturing fish by "tail whacking". They flick a fish up to 9 metres with their tail flukes and then pick the stunned prey from the water surface. Peale's dolphins in the Straits of Magellan off Patagonia forage in kelp beds, use the seaweed to disguise their approach and cut off the fishes' escape route. In Galveston Bay, Texas, certain female bottlenose dolphins and their young follow shrimp boats. The dolphins swim into the shrimp nets to take live fish and then wriggle out again - a skill requiring expertise to avoid entanglement in the fishing nets.
Dolphins can also use tools to solve problems. Scientists have observed a dolphin coaxing a reluctant moray eel out of its crevice by killing a scorpion fish and using its spiny body to poke at the eel. Off the western coast of Australia, bottlenose dolphins place sponges over their snouts, which protects them from the spines of stonefish and stingrays as they forage over shallow seabeds.
Some of Dr. Lilly's experiments.....
Using a mind probe set in the brain, which when stimulated with an electrical current gave the dolphin a rewarding sensation, Dr. Lilly set up a switch where Dolphin #6 could reward himself by pushing a lever. "While I was assembling it, I noticed that the dolphin was closely watching what I was doing. Almost before I could finish assembling and placing the rods necessary to push the switch (which was out of the water above the animal), the dolphin started pushing on the rod. By the time the switch was connected to the rest of the apparatus he had learned the proper way to push it."6
There was no random or apparent accidental contacts before the dolphin learned how. The same thing happened with three different dolphins. They seemed to anticipate the purpose of the switch. Probably from seeing him push it and connecting the push to the reward. Dr. Lilly had used this same technique on monkeys and made the statement that it usually took a chimp about 100 random tries before he learned to push the button, and then a few more to learn how to push the button.
Dr. Lilly was attempting to make Dolphin #8 whistle a burst of a given pitch, duration and intensity in order to obtain a reward. The dolphin quickly caught on. Every time he whistled his blowhole would move and a whistle would be emitted. Then Dr. Lilly noticed that the dolphin had added a new rule to the game. He was raising the pitch of each subsequent whistle. Suddenly, the blowhole twitched, but no sound. He had passed our hearing range. No sound-- no reward. Dolphin #8 emitted two more supersonic twitches and the third was hearable. From that time on he did not go out of Dr. Lilly's acoustic range. The Dolphin had determined what his hearing range was and stayed within it.
Must I really keep going or do you get the idea by now?
Face it....maybe if you quit investing your so-called "intelligence" in developing newer and better ways to kill people with bombs and such and maybe devoted just a little more time and finances to something that could benefit the human race, like inter-species communication, then MAYBE I wouldn't have had to have proved your misconceptions of dolphins lacking intelligence wrong.
OK....maybe I am ranting a bit, but I get quite tired of dealing with people who think they know everything.
"to the dolphin alone, beyond all others, nature has granted what the best philosophers seek: friendship for no advantage"-Plutarch
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#32
 2007-09-25, 04:27
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Re: Bestiality..
too long / didn't read
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#33
 2007-09-25, 05:38
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^^awsome
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#34
 2007-09-25, 07:35
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You don't have to have a small cock to fuck a rat, just cut a hole in its side and fuck that, trust me it feel great, there kinda a one time use thing though :( ok a good weekend i grab a scaple, a bottle of wine and a bag full of rats and dont come out of my basement until tuesday
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#35
 2007-09-26, 08:22
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No kidding. Who the fuck would bust rhymes when there's a hot rose bush just waiting to be sexed up right in front of you???
Dude, who the fuck said you couldn't do both? I always drop some dope-ass rhymes when the thorny make me horny...
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 2007-09-27, 02:33
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Dude, who the fuck said you couldn't do both? I always drop some dope-ass rhymes when the thorny make me horny...
..............w...t...f........
botaniphilia?......lmfao:D
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 2007-09-27, 02:50
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..............w...t...f........
botaniphilia?......lmfao:D
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thats really like saying someones a hand-philiac cuz they masturbate
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 2007-09-27, 04:31
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I saw a video with two people talking about fucking their horse, and from what they said the horse got pretty into it. I guess that's kind of like consent.
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 2007-09-27, 06:02
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Luckily for S&A, the UK has so many sheepfuckers it created a safer-sex guide. (http://www.hpa.org.uk/infections/topics_az/zoonoses/menu.asp) So, when you're out there in the field sexing sally the sow, remember to give a little "god save the queen" for helping you out!
'cause, really.... who doesn't love a monarch who's hip enough to help a sheepfucker out?
That's not what that link is. You fail, as usual.
Now where are the totse girls that want to do bestiality? AIM me @ war is work and I'll mail you a dog and a webcam. D:
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#40
 2007-09-27, 06:16
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That's not what that link is. You fail, as usual.
That's what you say now... but when you're hunting for the site, wondering "what did Fido just give me?" - you'll sing a different tune.
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#41
 2007-09-27, 06:25
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Are you a pedo? I have a five year old sheepdog I might rent out.
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#42
 2007-09-27, 07:24
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Are you a pedo? I have a five year old sheepdog I might rent out.
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Yeah, but that's, like... 35 in dog years, dude!
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#43
 2007-09-27, 17:14
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Well I haven't been active on totse for a while, let alone sex and affection.
There was a thread on bestiality back in January and February where I was really curious about ZOOPHILIA, but never carried it through at the time.
Later around april fools I made a guide to zoophilia and made out to a few RottenEggs members (fucking piece of shit site which thankfully I got deleted from for doing an epic spam attack which last over about 3 days) that I was a zoophile. The joke was actually on me when someone from beastforum had seen my post somehow and congratulated me on it :S
I actually became even more curious again; and even had a chance to fence hop and took it. I'm not going into much more detail for my own sake and because of laws here.
I made a post on bombshock about my views on zoophilia and bestiality (yes there is a difference) which I htink I should post in here aswell.
Ok well I've had a few arguments in my past about the moralissue to do with bestiality and zoophila; well I wanted to know your opinions aswell.
Ok I will admit, I have been guilty alot in the past of looking at bestiality (now it's just for teh lulz!) and actually having thoughts about it and seeing the horny side to it (don't fucking laugh). I personally have never had sexual intercourse with an animal of any kind (don't let the guide make you think I have), nor would I ever want to, because that's just me (at the time of originally typing this up originally). But I honestly can side with the zoophiles on their reasoning behind it.
Notice I call them zoophiles and not bestialists?
This is because I do not agree with bestialists at all and with good reason as I do not condone rape.
Zoophilia and bestiality are 2 similar yet different things.
Bestiality can constitute as rape in a way, because there is no love, purely just for sexual needs and for the horny bastards to get off whether the animal wants it or not.
Zoophilia is where there is true love or a bond with the animal aswell as just for getting off and fulfilling JUST your sexual needs.
Now yeah someone could argue that they were curious or they did it for a dare; this IS bestiality and it pisses me off. If you are going to fuck animals then stick to it, it's like you're either gay or you're straight and you stick with tat for your life if you are genuine. (There is no bisexuality, that is an excuse made up by greedy fuckers who are looking for attention and are the fakest of the fake).
I don't see why though; I'm a male and I can't see why anyone wouldn't be into/or atleast curious about having sex with animals.
With animals I've been told it just feels more affectionate and an experience which as most would think as "forbidden" (according to the bible) which makes it so much exciting and thrilling.
I could also see why someone could find a nice mare pussy tastier and hornier due to smell, and all in all juicier on their cock.
This is just some things I wanted to clear up and how I can understand zoophiles to a certain extent; but not if it is bestiality where the horny bastards just want to get off.
I think anyone should be entitled to love whoever and what ever the fuck they like....just make your fucking mind up with what you want though and make sure you have valid reasons for it aswell (even some paedophiles aren't as bad as media or I and other baiters portray them; but the snatchers and those who fuck them without consent I fucking hate with a burning passion, and I find "normal" paedophiles still disgusting, but hey, each to their own)
Being curious in any form is ok aswell though.
And anyone saying animals don't have some human characteristics or relations can shut up.
I can also even find a pic and post it, of a mare in the missionary position with legs up in the air and spread apart, which is rare but just goes to show you.
But seriously if you think about it logically you shouldn't judge those who are attached more to animals than they are humans; as I already mentioned as long as they actually have reasons and good ones at that.
Also anyone calling it abuse; it really all depends.
How the fuck can it be abuse if there is no harm done to the animal, and are you honestly telling me a horse or a cow or any other fully grown (and fuckable...smaller ones obviously could die) animal could not defend themselves?
That's bullshit, of course they can, they're not weak animals; so they could easily resist more so and aggressively than humans in some cases if they didn't want it.
It also comes down to the way the animal is treated outside the sexual relationship. If it's being fed, has a warm, clean and dry place to sleep,gets as much healthy exercise as it needs, is in a safe environment, is kept clean and groomed regularly, and taken to the vet both for check ups and emergency care, and if it gets non sexual affection just like stroking and cuddling; then it can not be called abuse either if their is a genuine bond, and as long as it's not being fucked in it's sleep or against it's will.
As much as anyone sees it as disgusting or wrong, who the fuck are you to judge?
I know of a woman on a site who asked if you'd let a zoophile near your children.
My reply was:
Are you saying that because he's a zoophile he must be a paedophile aswell?
Or is it just because you think he's weird?
Zoophiles are not fucked in the head like most believe and are genuinely caring and nice people. It's not as if they are going to make your kids fuck his mares or convince them it's ok to fuck their family dog; they do have standards aswell and would not force opinions on a child who is not of age to make such decisions for himself.
It's rare as it is that zoophiles will let themselves be known to other non zoophiles and keep their relationships to themselves and don't talk about it.
So stop being a fucking prejudiced slag, because I know I wouldn't want you judging me on my relationships; zoophile, paedophile, gay or just regular straight guy.
All in all great thread to come back to in S&A, hope to spend more time here again.
Top man OP.
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OMG im in the computer lab at my college and i caint stop laughing. My eyes are watering and im trying not to be loud. Everyone is kinda looking at me
This thread RULES
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 2007-09-27, 17:45
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Well I haven't been active on totse for a while, let alone sex and affection.
There was a thread on bestiality back in January and February where I was really curious about ZOOPHILIA, but never carried it through at the time.
Later around april fools I made a guide to zoophilia and made out to a few RottenEggs members (fucking piece of shit site which thankfully I got deleted from for doing an epic spam attack which last over about 3 days) that I was a zoophile. The joke was actually on me when someone from beastforum had seen my post somehow and congratulated me on it :S
I actually became even more curious again; and even had a chance to fence hop and took it. I'm not going into much more detail for my own sake and because of laws here.
I made a post on bombshock about my views on zoophilia and bestiality (yes there is a difference) which I htink I should post in here aswell.
Ok well I've had a few arguments in my past about the moralissue to do with bestiality and zoophila; well I wanted to know your opinions aswell.
Ok I will admit, I have been guilty alot in the past of looking at bestiality (now it's just for teh lulz!) and actually having thoughts about it and seeing the horny side to it (don't fucking laugh). I personally have never had sexual intercourse with an animal of any kind (don't let the guide make you think I have), nor would I ever want to, because that's just me. But I honestly can side with the zoophiles on their reasoning behind it.
Notice I call them zoophiles and not bestialists?
This is because I do not agree with bestialists at all and with good reason as I do not condone rape.
Zoophilia and bestiality are 2 similar yet different things.
Bestiality can constitute as rape in a way, because there is no love, purely just for sexual needs and for the horny bastards to get off whether the animal wants it or not.
Zoophilia is where there is true love or a bond with the animal aswell as just for getting off and fulfilling JUST your sexual needs.
Now yeah someone could argue that they were curious or they did it for a dare; this IS bestiality and it pisses me off. If you are going to fuck animals then stick to it, it's like you're either gay or you're straight and you stick with tat for your life if you are genuine. (There is no bisexuality, that is an excuse made up by greedy fuckers who are looking for attention and are the fakest of the fake).
I don't see why though; I'm a male and I can't see why anyone wouldn't be into/or atleast curious about having sex with animals.
With animals I've been told it just feels more affectionate and an experience which as most would think as "forbidden" (according to the bible) which makes it so much exciting and thrilling.
I could also see why someone could find a nice mare pussy tastier and hornier due to smell, and all in all juicier on their cock.
This is just some things I wanted to clear up and how I can understand zoophiles to a certain extent; but not if it is bestiality where the horny bastards just want to get off.
I think anyone should be entitled to love whoever and what ever the fuck they like....just make your fucking mind up with what you want though and make sure you have valid reasons for it aswell (even some paedophiles aren't as bad as media or I and other baiters portray them; but the snatchers and those who fuck them without consent I fucking hate with a burning passion, and I find "normal" paedophiles still disgusting, but hey, each to their own)
Being curious in any form is ok aswell though.
And anyone saying animals don't have some human characteristics or relations can shut up.
I can also even find a pic and post it, of a mare in the missionary position with legs up in the air and spread apart, which is rare but just goes to show you.
But seriously if you think about it logically you shouldn't judge those who are attached more to animals than they are humans; as I already mentioned as long as they actually have reasons and good ones at that.
Also anyone calling it abuse; it really all depends.
How the fuck can it be abuse if there is no harm done to the animal, and are you honestly telling me a horse or a cow or any other fully grown (and fuckable...smaller ones obviously could die) animal could not defend themselves?
That's bullshit, of course they can, they're not weak animals; so they could easily resist more so and aggressively than humans in some cases if they didn't want it.
It also comes down to the way the animal is treated outside the sexual relationship. If it's being fed, has a warm, clean and dry place to sleep,gets as much healthy exercise as it needs, is in a safe environment, is kept clean and groomed regularly, and taken to the vet both for check ups and emergency care, and if it gets non sexual affection just like stroking and cuddling; then it can not be called abuse either if their is a genuine bond, and as long as it's not being fucked in it's sleep or against it's will.
As much as anyone sees it as disgusting or wrong, who the fuck are you to judge?
I know of a woman on a site who asked if you'd let a zoophile near your children.
My reply was:
Are you saying that because he's a zoophile he must be a paedophile aswell?
Or is it just because you think he's weird?
Zoophiles are not fucked in the head like most believe and are genuinely caring and nice people. It's not as if they are going to make your kids fuck his mares or convince them it's ok to fuck their family dog; they do have standards aswell and would not force opinions on a child who is not of age to make such decisions for himself.
It's rare as it is that zoophiles will let themselves be known to other non zoophiles and keep their relationships to themselves and don't talk about it.
So stop being a fucking prejudiced slag, because I know I wouldn't want you judging me on my relationships; zoophile, paedophile, gay or just regular straight guy.
All in all great thread to come back to in S&A, hope to spend more time here again.
Top man OP.
ORLY?!?!?!?
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#46
 2007-09-27, 17:45
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Lol hey think yourself lucky, I was on 4chan at college today and couldn't stop laughing my ass off.
ORLY?!?!?!?
Ya rly!
I was actually expecting a TL;DR.
Has totse got a bit better recently?
Okay sorry guys, back on topic now.
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#47
 2007-09-27, 18:42
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Now yeah someone could argue that they were curious or they did it for a dare; this IS bestiality and it pisses me off. If you are going to fuck animals then stick to it, it's like you're either gay or you're straight and you stick with tat for your life if you are genuine. (There is no bisexuality, that is an excuse made up by greedy fuckers who are looking for attention and are the fakest of the fake).
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#48
 2007-09-27, 18:49
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I've deviated slightly into bestiality. I've let my male dog lick my pussy a few times, always followed with me rewarding him with a thorough jack-off. I can see clear signs of consent. He now comes up to me and starts licking me whenever we're home alone together. He'll roll over and nudge my hand towars his crotch when he wants attention. Animals aren't stupid, he snarls if he's uncomfortable or if I've accidentally hurt him, puts his tail between his legs if he's afraid.
Now I'm not a full on zoophile, or beastialist. I disagree with the above poster who claimed that you had to choose absolutely if you were into animals or children or men or women or whatever, yet it was ok to be curious. I think the only way to satiate that curiosity and to determine an orientation of any sort is through experimentation. This may or may not lead to continued attraction to the 'fetish' you've chose to deviate into.
I am still definitely attracted to human males and females above all else, but that doesn't mean that I'm not willing to get a little kinky once and awhile. ;)
It's never something that I thought I'd really be into, I mean, I'd been a little curious about it - but it wasn't until my boyfriend expressened an interest in the matter that I was actually willing to start experimenting.
It's really rather sexy for a bit of a diversion from the norm - and a dog's tounge is cleaner than a humans. ;)
If anybody has any questions, I'm more than happy to try and answer them. My msn is up above if you aren't comfortable posting in the forum.
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 2007-09-27, 19:40
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Now yeah someone could argue that they were curious or they did it for a dare; this IS bestiality and it pisses me off. If you are going to fuck animals then stick to it, it's like you're either gay or you're straight and you stick with tat for your life if you are genuine. (There is no bisexuality, that is an excuse made up by greedy fuckers who are looking for attention and are the fakest of the fake).
I don't agree. I'm not attracted to other men, but I can at least understand the attraction to both sexes. I hardly think it makes you greedy or fake as long as both people consent. Some people use it as a way of getting attention, but saying that all do is too much of a generalization, I think. As for animal sex, I agree with you, though I don't personally think I could ever bring myself to fuck a different animal. I still don't think that someone who would fuck an animal is necessary a nasty freak. Your post makes a lot of sense, but don't expect many people to agree with you (and I'm sure you don't).
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 2007-09-27, 19:48
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I've deviated slightly into bestiality. I've let my male dog lick my pussy a few times, always followed with me rewarding him with a thorough jack-off. I can see clear signs of consent. He now comes up to me and starts licking me whenever we're home alone together. He'll roll over and nudge my hand towars his crotch when he wants attention. Animals aren't stupid, he snarls if he's uncomfortable or if I've accidentally hurt him, puts his tail between his legs if he's afraid.
Now I'm not a full on zoophile, or beastialist. I disagree with the above poster who claimed that you had to choose absolutely if you were into animals or children or men or women or whatever, yet it was ok to be curious. I think the only way to satiate that curiosity and to determine an orientation of any sort is through experimentation. This may or may not lead to continued attraction to the 'fetish' you've chose to deviate into.
I am still definitely attracted to human males and females above all else, but that doesn't mean that I'm not willing to get a little kinky once and awhile. ;)
It's never something that I thought I'd really be into, I mean, I'd been a little curious about it - but it wasn't until my boyfriend expressened an interest in the matter that I was actually willing to start experimenting.
It's really rather sexy for a bit of a diversion from the norm - and a dog's tounge is cleaner than a humans. ;)
If anybody has any questions, I'm more than happy to try and answer them. My msn is up above if you aren't comfortable posting in the forum.
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#51
 2007-09-27, 20:52
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huh??.....wtf?!
lol...and oh yeah btw.....I'm back! :D
onwards to new business at hand.....I feel like I'm repeating myself again, but yes, it's true that animals can consent to sex....needless to say it cannot be expressed verbally, but any behavioral analyst can tell you that animals, like humans, respond to stimuli for all their actions. An intelligent animal (a dolphin for instance) can receive a sexual stimulus and react to that stimulus in a form which can be taken as consent, since the same reaction is generally given to the opposite sex of the same species (i.e. undersides turn pink and or other behavioral gestures such as rubbing or humping). AND....contrary to popular belief, animals (mainly those of higher intelligence) CAN differentiate between a human and one of their own species......I can get all technical about it but I prefer we just leave it at that.
Moving on, I feel that I must also draw to attention the misconceptions of many in society who feel that people who find any form of love or sexual interest in animals are "immoral" "sick" or "disgusting" are quite biased and opinionated and should rightfully keep their opinions to themselves. It is not a "sickness" but a genuine preference, and as for the moral issue it is clear that morality has never had clear boundaries, otherwise we would all still be living like the Amish. The fact is, morals are to each man a different definition, so drop the morality issue already! As far as religious aspects are concerned, you better think twice before you go telling me I'll burn in hell for loving an animal......I doubt God would preach of so much love an compassion if he were to only damn those who actually followed through. Besides, religious texts are so heavily biased by their writers that I guarantee you that more than half the stuff is man's additions to limit and control society to his favor rathor than God's will. And if you really want to get all literal, then anyone out there who's commited sodomy or adultry....well I guess we'll all burn in hell together then if it's true (did you forget so easily that those were listen in there too?)
In closing, I must add this conclusion. We (zoophiles) are here to stay, and there's nothing anyone of you who tries to preach how wrong or immoral YOU think we are can do to stop us from what we love. I love dolphins....in my opinion, they are the cleanest, kindest, most compassionate, beautiful and intelligent beings in the world......true you might say that they're animals and that they're not as intelligent as we humans are, but tell me.....what defines intelligence? Is it this ability to communicate with one another? To speak? They can speak....we just dont understand it....does that make us less intelligent for not understanding what they say? Or maybe it's human kind's ability for ingenuity and creativity? What good is that when our own creativity is used for the creation of bombs, for industrialization which is polluting our environment, for the greed that runs rampant among us, only to be masked in the name of capitalism.....all elements leading to our eventual demise.....is this intelligence? Intelligence is found in compassion.....in love for your fellow beings, not in greed and self centered deeds. Intelligence is being able to see your opressors and still have the ability to forgive them for their wrong-doings, not the constant cycle of attacks and revenge. Consider these facts, then tell me are we really so goddamn smart as we think we are and proclaim ourselves to be? Perhaps the greatest show of intelligence is humility...acknowledging the fact that we know nothing. You know nothing about us...about our love...about our feelings for our particular species....yet in adhering to the human way you so readily judge us and demean our existence.....label us and eventually ban us from the rest of your "perfect" society. Well you know what.....it's yours....you can have it...at least dolphins dont readily stab you in the back or betray you when you need them most.
Anyway, I'm through trying to prove a point....and I'm sure I'll get plenty of criticism from all you who are bent on believing that you're right and I'm wrong....even though you've never tried it yourself to see.....so I and hopefully everyone else with common sense out there will simply ignore your baseless biased remarks and instead pity you for the sexual repression in which you force yourself to live in.
*BTW: Our dolphin sex thread got to 32 pages and 11,000+ page views :D *
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 2007-09-27, 21:22
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animal fucker!
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#53
 2007-09-27, 21:48
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Something like 36% of the rural north american teens have reportedly engaged in horse fucking.
I love totse.
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#54
 2007-09-27, 21:49
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I'm actually quite shocked by the responses in here.
Still, I prefer to stick to my own race. Ignorance is bliss, and all that.
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#55
 2007-09-27, 22:02
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Notice I call them zoophiles and not bestialists?
This is because I do not agree with bestialists at all and with good reason as I do not condone rape.
Zoophilia and bestiality are 2 similar yet different things.
Bestiality can constitute as rape in a way, because there is no love, purely just for sexual needs and for the horny bastards to get off whether the animal wants it or not.
Zoophilia is where there is true love or a bond with the animal aswell as just for getting off and fulfilling JUST your sexual needs.
With animals I've been told it just feels more affectionate and an experience which as most would think as "forbidden" (according to the bible) which makes it so much exciting and thrilling.
This is just some things I wanted to clear up and how I can understand zoophiles to a certain extent; but not if it is bestiality where the horny bastards just want to get off.
I think anyone should be entitled to love whoever and what ever the fuck they like....just make your fucking mind up with what you want though and make sure you have valid reasons for it aswell
And anyone saying animals don't have some human characteristics or relations can shut up.
But seriously if you think about it logically you shouldn't judge those who are attached more to animals than they are humans; as I already mentioned as long as they actually have reasons and good ones at that.
Also anyone calling it abuse; it really all depends.
How the fuck can it be abuse if there is no harm done to the animal, and are you honestly telling me a horse or a cow or any other fully grown (and fuckable...smaller ones obviously could die) animal could not defend themselves?
That's bullshit, of course they can, they're not weak animals; so they could easily resist more so and aggressively than humans in some cases if they didn't want it.
It also comes down to the way the animal is treated outside the sexual relationship. If it's being fed, has a warm, clean and dry place to sleep,gets as much healthy exercise as it needs, is in a safe environment, is kept clean and groomed regularly, and taken to the vet both for check ups and emergency care, and if it gets non sexual affection just like stroking and cuddling; then it can not be called abuse either if their is a genuine bond, and as long as it's not being fucked in it's sleep or against it's will.
As much as anyone sees it as disgusting or wrong, who the fuck are you to judge?
Zoophiles are not fucked in the head like most believe and are genuinely caring and nice people. It's not as if they are going to make your kids fuck his mares or convince them it's ok to fuck their family dog; they do have standards aswell and would not force opinions on a child who is not of age to make such decisions for himself.
It's rare as it is that zoophiles will let themselves be known to other non zoophiles and keep their relationships to themselves and don't talk about it.
So stop being a fucking prejudiced slag, because I know I wouldn't want you judging me on my relationships; zoophile, paedophile, gay or just regular straight guy.
FINALLY!!.....someone who has a little common sense!
Also really good to see someone who actually did their research BEFORE posting here....great job on explaining the difference between zoos and beastialists:D
it's important to make the distinction [between bestiality per se, and zoophilia] because zoophiles try not to hurt their animals..
Surprisingly, many zoophiles join animal-rights activists in their opposition to animal pornography because the films objectify the critters, and mistreat the animals. "Things are done to elicit behavior," explains [one zoophile]. "For instance, they allow a dog to become dehydrated so he will lick almost constantly.-Dr. LaFarge, Director of Counseling at the ASPCA
Good job also in explaining that we're not the sick fucked up people society is making us out to be....we have good reason and good passion for what we do, plus our actions harm no one, so can you really base all your claims that what we do is wrong simply off your own opinions and presumptions? After all....we've done it...you havn't, so can you really be the ones judging? I'm not advocating you try it or anything....you're entitled to your opinions and preferences....BUT, you cross the line whenever you try to impose your opinions and preferences on us.
"If a girl gets sexual pleasure from riding a horse, does the horse suffer? If not, who cares? If you French kiss your dog and he or she thinks it's great, is it wrong? We believe all exploitation and abuse is wrong. If it isn't exploitation and abuse, [then] it may not be wrong."-Ingrid Newkirk, President of PETA
........my point exactly
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 2007-09-27, 23:09
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Neiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhh
*gallops away, tail covering pert-pucker*
Zoophilia/bestiality -- hrmm, well, I wouldn't go for it, but I do agree that generally, people should be allowed to follow their desires if they don't harm others. It is however debatable as to whether inserting your shlong into a weasel's mouth or whatever the fuck turns you on.... is "good" for more than one party. Maybe if animals are "satisfied" it's not "bad" exactly, but still, they're a different species....
Most people are not going to accept/tolerate zoophilia/bestiality, merely because they're.... well.... pretty fucked up! Fine, jerk off over those ants scurrying over your nipples, but don't expect people's respect for your lifestyle choice........
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#57
 2007-10-25, 00:21
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Kinda fucked up? with more emphasis on the fucked up?
man if you have to resort to raping un-human pussy to get pussy, thats really low.
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Thats the thing.. What you just said wouldn't apply to SmackNixon because you see.. He is a raging homo who likes getting fucked up the bum.
I hope you get head cancer SmackNixon.
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#58
 2007-10-25, 01:24
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You gheys are so fucked up resorting to animals for pussy, or ass.:D
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#59
 2007-10-25, 02:38
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"If a girl gets sexual pleasure from riding a horse, does the horse suffer? If not, who cares? If you French kiss your dog and he or she thinks it's great, is it wrong? We believe all exploitation and abuse is wrong. If it isn't exploitation and abuse, [then] it may not be wrong."-Ingrid Newkirk, President of PETA
further proof of why peta sucks ass. dog ass.
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 2007-11-04, 12:46
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I've let my male dog lick my pussy a few times, always followed with me rewarding him with a thorough jack-off.
LOOOOOOOOOOOL you kinky bitch.
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#61
 2007-11-04, 21:51
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Unless you're some sort of telepath or empath, how can you tell if an animal is giving consent or not?
Also..just...what the fuck!?
How..just.. I cannot grasp how someone could find any sexual desire for an animal.
I mean, I love my GuineaPigs, but I dont love my GuineaPigs, if you get what I mean.
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#62
 2007-11-04, 22:10
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Fuck guinea pigs and you'll become a necro zoophile after about 1 minute of fucking.
This topic had such a shitty bump to it.
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#63
 2007-11-04, 23:34
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I've deviated slightly into bestiality. I've let my male dog lick my pussy a few times, always followed with me rewarding him with a thorough jack-off. I can see clear signs of consent. He now comes up to me and starts licking me whenever we're home alone together. He'll roll over and nudge my hand towars his crotch when he wants attention. Animals aren't stupid, he snarls if he's uncomfortable or if I've accidentally hurt him, puts his tail between his legs if he's afraid.
Now I'm not a full on zoophile, or beastialist. I disagree with the above poster who claimed that you had to choose absolutely if you were into animals or children or men or women or whatever, yet it was ok to be curious. I think the only way to satiate that curiosity and to determine an orientation of any sort is through experimentation. This may or may not lead to continued attraction to the 'fetish' you've chose to deviate into.
I am still definitely attracted to human males and females above all else, but that doesn't mean that I'm not willing to get a little kinky once and awhile. ;)
It's never something that I thought I'd really be into, I mean, I'd been a little curious about it - but it wasn't until my boyfriend expressened an interest in the matter that I was actually willing to start experimenting.
It's really rather sexy for a bit of a diversion from the norm - and a dog's tounge is cleaner than a humans. ;)
If anybody has any questions, I'm more than happy to try and answer them. My msn is up above if you aren't comfortable posting in the forum.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
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 2007-11-05, 23:36
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http://www.beastforum.com/
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 2007-11-05, 23:51
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I've deviated slightly into bestiality. I've let my male dog lick my pussy a few times, always followed with me rewarding him with a thorough jack-off. I can see clear signs of consent. He now comes up to me and starts licking me whenever we're home alone together. He'll roll over and nudge my hand towars his crotch when he wants attention. Animals aren't stupid, he snarls if he's uncomfortable or if I've accidentally hurt him, puts his tail between his legs if he's afraid.
Now I'm not a full on zoophile, or beastialist. I disagree with the above poster who claimed that you had to choose absolutely if you were into animals or children or men or women or whatever, yet it was ok to be curious. I think the only way to satiate that curiosity and to determine an orientation of any sort is through experimentation. This may or may not lead to continued attraction to the 'fetish' you've chose to deviate into.
I am still definitely attracted to human males and females above all else, but that doesn't mean that I'm not willing to get a little kinky once and awhile. ;)
It's never something that I thought I'd really be into, I mean, I'd been a little curious about it - but it wasn't until my boyfriend expressened an interest in the matter that I was actually willing to start experimenting.
It's really rather sexy for a bit of a diversion from the norm - and a dog's tounge is cleaner than a humans. ;)
If anybody has any questions, I'm more than happy to try and answer them. My msn is up above if you aren't comfortable posting in the forum.
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Lol, craziest shit I've read in a while.
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 2007-11-06, 00:13
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Unless you're some sort of telepath or empath, how can you tell if an animal is giving consent or not?
Also..just...what the fuck!?
How..just.. I cannot grasp how someone could find any sexual desire for an animal.
I mean, I love my GuineaPigs, but I dont love my GuineaPigs, if you get what I mean.
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No, actually, I don't get what you mean.
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 2007-11-06, 00:18
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It's really rather sexy for a bit of a diversion from the norm - and a dog's tounge is cleaner than a humans. ;)
My dog chews on his dick, licks the juices from his asshole, and eats any turd he finds on the ground. But no ya 4 sure, of corse itd be kleaner.
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 2007-11-06, 00:19
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I've deviated slightly into bestiality. I've let my male dog lick my pussy a few times, always followed with me rewarding him with a thorough jack-off. I can see clear signs of consent. He now comes up to me and starts licking me whenever we're home alone together. He'll roll over and nudge my hand towars his crotch when he wants attention. Animals aren't stupid, he snarls if he's uncomfortable or if I've accidentally hurt him, puts his tail between his legs if he's afraid.
Now I'm not a full on zoophile, or beastialist. I disagree with the above poster who claimed that you had to choose absolutely if you were into animals or children or men or women or whatever, yet it was ok to be curious. I think the only way to satiate that curiosity and to determine an orientation of any sort is through experimentation. This may or may not lead to continued attraction to the 'fetish' you've chose to deviate into.
I am still definitely attracted to human males and females above all else, but that doesn't mean that I'm not willing to get a little kinky once and awhile. ;)
It's never something that I thought I'd really be into, I mean, I'd been a little curious about it - but it wasn't until my boyfriend expressened an interest in the matter that I was actually willing to start experimenting.
It's really rather sexy for a bit of a diversion from the norm - and a dog's tounge is cleaner than a humans. ;)
If anybody has any questions, I'm more than happy to try and answer them. My msn is up above if you aren't comfortable posting in the forum.
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You should be a veterinarian...
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#69
 2007-11-06, 20:57
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My dog chews on his dick, licks the juices from his asshole, and eats any turd he finds on the ground. But no ya 4 sure, of corse itd be kleaner.
Although the mouth of a typical dog is full of bacteria, it's 'species specific.' So, if a dog were to lick a person, most of the germs wouldn't transfer. 'Bottom line -- you're more likely to get a serious illness from kissing a person than kissing a dog.
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#70
 2007-11-06, 23:25
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What's really low is having to live in a sexually repressive society.
quoted for motherfucking truth
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#71
 2007-11-10, 19:17
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Otsego_Amigo 
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Re: Bestiality..
Unless you're some sort of telepath or empath, how can you tell if an animal is giving consent or not?
body language just like captain kirk said.
if you grab a dog's penis, and he bites you, that can be interpreted as a rejection.
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#72
 2007-11-21, 00:41
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Watching captain_kirk's pics on totse gallery and reading her story in this thread makes me so fucking hard.
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