So, I was just thinking about this...women in long-term relationships tend to be rather evil. Seriously, why endanger yourself with the possibility of child support + wife support. What is the point of having a wife that does not give sex whenever you want it? There is none. Kids are also pointless as they just require $$$. Heh, hiring a high-class (non aids-infected) hooker would be much cheaper than supporting wife + kids.

The reason I am writing this is I am for my classes (university level) being forced by political correctness to read the diary..err memoirs of a certain woman CEO of a certain laptop manufacturer. That CEO as far as I know fucked it up big time. So I guess it will work as an example of someone who fucked it up, altho it will be presented in as only rampant liberalism can.


Sex, drugs, rock&roll FTFW.

Because those who are mature and adult enough to have children and wives do not feel such regret. Endangering yourself? Don't get into one in the first place. Mature adults talk things out and don't get pushed into things they don't want to do.

Bullshit. So the woman *forgets* to take the pill. I've seen thinks like this happen, and it usually ends up fucking both parties up. (no pun intended) Also, note my name.:D Anyway making 100% of women work, rather than letting them have a free ride=good idea. There are a significant number of women working as construction workers in china...

Then again what does the bible have to say about women?

Financial abortions FTW.

Edit: I just realized you are British, and obviously influenced by the new socialist world-destroying empire. Damn pinko commies.

I think there used to be a world or should I say there could have been a world worth bringing kids into.

Most parents who are pleased with who they are and their lives enough to bring kids into this world, seem to have forgotten they've been forced to go to school, go to jobs, go through bullshit just to get to where they are. They seem to overlook the holocaust, the countless wars of the past where little children where murdered... They seem to think life will be ok, then they will cry when their child is abducted.
What is with this misunderstanding that life gives no promises and that bringing a kid into this world is like dragging an unsuspecting victim to a hellish place so that they can go through endless bullshit to find heaven. Most people don't think like this though and are quite content bringing children into a world going to hell quickly.


This sense of security is of course based on an inflatable money system in a world run by the banks. It's like when people have money they lose sense of that someone poor has to work the restaurant for THEM. Someone has to be the cashier at the gas station for them. Do you truly think we can go on using the world like this, just getting what we want and giving back not much in return except 40 hours of our time doing seemingly meaningless shit? This world is not real to me at all. I truly feel that if most people are doing something, it doesn't mean it's right. To bring people into this world at this era seems really insane. To get married because you feel like you need to seems also insane to me. People who do that seem influenced by the society enough to actually conform just a BIT more to an already constricted life.. It's for this reason I'm one of those guys who girls like, but who doesn't give a shit about them hence becomes mysterious. It's because I will look at people and in an instant I see the common beliefs that dictate their lives, theirs and not mine. It feels like I am walking amongst corpses sometimes. I am going to die and if there is a woman besides me when it happens, or not, so be it. The one thing I will promise is to never bring someone to this twisted place and for this, my life will be much different than the average guy, and I'm not just talking because I'll have more money.

Stay happy bro, good luck finding a REAL woman. There aren't many these days, but then again... There isn't much that's real in this world anyways. There's always craigslist hookers too. :D

It's a good thing that other animals on this planet never teach their young how to survive in the world on their own. They know nothing about pain, hunger, cruelty and disease. Otherwise, they would not put their offspring under the same rigors that they have gone through.

Or...would they?

btw, if you don't want to work 40 hours a week doing meaningless shit then find something meanful to do.

It does sound to me like you just might be a "walking corpse" and are projecting that onto others because of your fears.

You might see that as meaningful because you think this life needs to continue or that this life, this physical world is all there is to reality, so we should be attached to it, we should give it the most importance, there is nothing more to our existence than to be in one physical body, then die. Survival is all there is, we should keep this world going and prolong the time until our inevitable death.

Could it be that a job, marriage and children are all directly related to fear of death? After all, a man who is old without a family seems like he will die quicker than a man who will have everyone take care of him... But will he have lived?

Death and disease are things you are going to HAVE to undergo. Why you want to create something that you know is going to be destroyed is BEYOND me. Because it's a good ride? Or because it's a chaotic ride that you see as an interesting game to be played and think you should have the say that others should play it, just because you can? You might like where you are financially now, but if that is taken from you, you will be miserable. This is just it, you don't see that your kid could be kidnapped and tortured to death, and only THEN would you shake your head and say what kind of world have I brought them into....ONLY THEN will you look at reality on both sides. You have become, now you must unbecome. A child does not HAVE to be born, nor is the child ASKING to be born. You ARE born, you WILL die. There need not be anyone to follow after you

And even if I do find meaningful things to do, even if I HAVE, what if it is only worth something to me because everyone else is quite content with the 40 hour bit, enough to love their paychecks, care more about money than their fellow man? Well I guess it's enough to make me a bit bitter and have my say here on totse, since it's not that restricted and because I need to unleash that energy in a variety of outputs to express myself, and you are being treated to one of those expressions of energy.

It's not that I'm a walking corpse. It's that I'm surrounded by them everyday and that this forum is a good means to express my feelings when I hear about the norms that these corpses follow. Do you think I'm liked? I associate with no one. I'm even distant from my roomates but we all are very happy with each other. People respect me because I don't kiss their ass, in fact I barely pay them any mind because what they stand for is not what I stand for, and I accept that it's my own experiences that have nudged me "awake" to other possibilities. I most likely would be married and with child had I not been through such experiences, but I am who I am now and I'm going to say what I will. I get respect because I don't take any shit, and because I don't care about money or stupid things but because I respect myself and know who I am and what I want do to with my life. I don't have the same spineless fear when my boss walks into the room that I'm doing something wrong, which most people do.

It's alright though, think of me what you will. I guess you just have to walk in these shoes to understand where I am coming from. Know what though? At least I'm not coming here to say yeah fuck women, they're evil, but rather trying to state why I think a lot of guys see the world this way, because I simply have the energy and oppurtunity to share it.

1-I do not beleive you can be in university.
To assume that ALL women are just after money and child support, based on the diary of ONE person, is stupid and ignorant. You may get into a university being ignorant but I'd hope that you wouldnt get in being that stupid.

2-You may have been mistreated by a bad woman. Again, just because one woman is a piece of shit doesent mean they are all bad women.

3-Basing your oppinions on the writings in someones diary?
Jesus fucking christ, I know you're not that daft.
Diarys are outpouring of the horrible bitter feelings inside a person. They're not meant to be public literature, and they're not nescessarily the truth.



So yes. WOMAN may be evil, indeed, many women may be evil. But you should possibly consider homosexuality if you think that all women are evil, because with a mindset like that, I'd hope you would live your life alone.

I don't view Fuck as projecting anything. I totally get what he means by "walking amongst corpses". The sad reality is, that much of this populous is so busy running around in a frenzied state....that the days are piling up for them one on top of the other and all they have to show for it is a stressed existence.

I especially understand what he means when discussing bringing kids into this wretched world. I have thoughts like this about my son on an almost daily basis. I sit back with such joy and wonderment as I watch him go about his day, yet thoughts of ...."oh my god, why did I do this to you" enter my head. Yes, having my son has given me such a sense of fulfillment and could be the final testament to my existence. But I'm also very well aware that the "cost" of my fulfillment and my joy has been unleashed on an innocent being. Because now my son does indeed have to endure countless pains, horrors and hypocrisy....and he too will have to someday walk amongst the corpses trying to get through his day. Am I a good dad? I certainly hope so. But yes, I AM in fact quite SELFISH to an extent......because the price to pay for that sense of "joy" for ME may be to high a cost for his suffering, in a universal big picture sense.

Well, I do question most of my perceptions these days.

I do have those worries about my little one too. I wonder if those thoughts are new to our world, or if...they are common with every preceeding generation.


I believe that angst always existed, but not nearly to the degree that you and I share. The reason being is because we are living in world today that is so profoundly different than when you and I were kids. Never in the history of humanity has our environment changed so much from one generation to the next. Kids today have so many more horrors, pitfalls and worries that we didn't. Yeah, its an ugly place and its only natural for us to have such concerns and worries for those that we hold so near and dear to our hearts.

I would like to ask you though, are you truly bitter? He seemed bitter, but was he? Was he really? Because his heart was so big.

Nope. Not really that bitter... except around many people who laugh at petty things and don't live their life how they want to. Therefore I appear dead to them, nonreactive, bitter, cold. Yet I laugh full heartedly at things that only ARE funny, I breathe great, look and feel good all the time and always stay alert... that's important to me: alertness.... the bitterness and sadness is for people who don't make their own happiness their first priority... People who just work. Just get married. Just have kids. Just do this. Just do that. I make people nervous the way I move. It's because I don't move with my mind I see life as a big dance, a play of energy... I mean think about it, how can you make everyone happy if you cant even be happy yourself? That's just what this world is becoming, everyone bending backwards for someone else, then when it comes to them, they barely know themselves.

I think you guys feel what I am saying now when I say that I don't want to bring kids into this twisted world. It might just be my city, but a lot of parents around here don't look too happy lately.... And I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with living your life having good sex with whoever you want, and never getting married or having kids. This is human life, we are animals, with sex drives. It's our minds that have too much energy, and our bodies that are losing it, hence my post about "The death of the sex drive".

It's not that women are evil or anyone is evil. It's that men have given them some fantasy importance and this inflates their ego... This isn't real to me though, so to me people are all jokes, just walking talking jokes who are really sad inside because of this world and just dont want to admit it, because admitting it means they will have to live like nobody else and agree with nobody else and appear selfish to actually enjoy the shit out of life... hence my path, the one I have to walk alone, because I choose to. Well I gtg...

I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with that either, if that's what a person wants. Emptyness can be found in a lot of ways, but so can fullness too. It depends on what you put into it, I suppose.

Thanks for your insight. Maybe he wasn't really bitter either. I just couldn't see that at the time.

I'm going to jump in here on the "bitterness" angle and add my 2 cents. Many people in my life consider me bitter and somewhat angry, and truthfully I don't argue with them. Yes, I'm bitter.....because I've been forced into a world where I'm walking amongst sheep and the rules set forth don't make sense to me. The hypocrisy and corruptness of this world is tainting the adventure of living it. There are so many laws, policies, procedures in place......if for no other reason than to make it easier for those in power. And none of the sheep question it. They just keep on keepin on....living the lie that if you work hard and be a "good" person then your time will come. BULLSHIT!

I look at it this way....there is exactly ONE absolute in this world that is non-debatable. And that is DEATH, the fragility of life. Everything else is just worthless fodder that humanity has extolled upon itself for self-oppresion. Every law, every policy, every "expectation" is up for interpretation and can be received differently by every person depending on their perception. Myself, I can't witness all of the hypocrisy and corruption in this world.....and then just skip along saying to myself, "well that's life". Once you have the knowledge, it doesn't go away....and you can't go back to your old myopic mindset. Its like telling someone that has a degree in mathematics....."forget about all of that secondary learning, just focus on simple math." You simply can't unring a bell.

Now that may sound conceited or boastful on my part, claiming I have life figured out moreso than the average person. Maybe that is so. But like the old saying goes....."no one is on their deathbed wishing they put more time in at the office". So yeah, while I may never reach the pinnacle of my financial potential.....I'm certain I'll get as much out of my existence that any being possibly could walking in my shoes. I guess the bitterness comes from the fact I would be able to get even MORE out of it.....if not for the fact I had to share this planet with so many unthinking sheep while dancing around a whole myriad of hypocritical parameters. So yes, I guess you could say I'm "bitter" because of my awareness to that fact.

get a common law wife and sell your kids to a nike factory ftw?

Seconded.

Win!!

Edit: I just realized you are British, and obviously influenced by the new socialist world-destroying empire. Damn pinko commies.

Tell me about it!

Forgetting does happen and it's not always because a woman is trying to trap a man into a relationship.

There's enough bad apples to seriously suspect all of you. It's nothing personal

@ oc6 - I take my happy pills just about every day. For a few months it was take ‘em every day @ a certain time or there would be very negative mental consequences. Luckily I am almost done with that, although if weed was legal I wouldn’t need this government-created abomination.

@ Fuck - You are just about on the same page as I am. I went through hell in my childhood though, and in some ways am still rather fucked up. With this said, I cannot imagine why I would want to help bring another human into this world. Why continue the cycle of insanity, governments are just people they aren't immortal we stop reproducing and the old men don't have any more slaves to fight for them. I have talked to a few people about this that planning to reproduce and it really screws with their sense of life.

@ Yoyo - Like it or not I am attending a certain institution of higher learning. No, I am not going to tell you what it is. I will be a junior in December even though I am 19. I do admit that my original claim might have been a bit too extreme as there are some women in my life that I can trust, although the majority are deceived by the powers that be into taking "acceptable" roles in life. I will not go into detail but basically women are very strongly encouraged to view their body as their most valuable asset in life and in a large number of cases their meal ticket. This is ridiculously easy to observe, just look out the window. Now ironically enough women are also programmed to crave attention and operate on emotion and ultimately play host to a parasitic organism which will destroy their perceived attractiveness [my view]. Dispute this if you want, but again just look outside. Combine this with a ticking biological clock and there you have it, a time-bomb wanting above all else to be liked and accepted and to KEEP that acceptance. In the real world this translates into a woman wanting to find a partner that provides such emotions, and to keep this partner. And since a woman can only hope to produce a handful of offspring in her lifetime, to keep this partner to herself. I used the example of the certain woman CEO as the archetype of penis envy. Here is a brief summary, which explains:

* Soon after the libidinal shift to the penis, the child develops her first sexual impulses towards her mother.
* The girl realizes that she is physically not equipped to have a sexual relationship with her mother, as she has a clitoris, labia and vagina, rather than a penis.
* She desires a penis, and the power that it represents. This is described as penis envy. She sees the solution as obtaining her father’s penis.
* She develops a sexual desire for her father.
* The girl blames her mother for her apparent castration (what she sees as punishment by the mother for being attracted to the father) assisting a shift in the focus of her sexual impulses from her mother to her father.
* Sexual desire for her father leads to the desire to replace and eliminate her mother.
* The girl identifies with her mother so that she might learn to mimic her, and thus replace her.
* The child anticipates that both aforementioned desires will incur punishment (by the principle of lex talionis)
* The girl employs the defense mechanism of displacement to shift the object of her sexual desires from her father to men in general.
(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_envy)

@ DaGuru - Wow you sound even more pissed off at life than I am. I know there is a system, and I know that it kills and oppresses many people, but what are we lowly citizens to do about it?

Btw, there is no way in hell I would ever have sex before getting vasectumized any more, due to reasons mentioned above. And no, homosexuality is completely irrational to me. Boobs are damn sexy, but the bitchiness that usually comes attached is where the problem is.

I assumed people who went along with Freud's ridiculous penis envy theory at some point got shafted by a female and the only reason they could come up with for their apparent damaged ego was the female in question hurt them as a result of metaphorically wishing she had a dick to fuck people with also.

Freud was an asshole imho. It's not hard to analyze the world when your fallback every time is incest.

not ALL women are like that but some of the bitchy ones are and I like to explain it like that. True, Freud did take credit in his own way for many people's work, but some of it was already well established.