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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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2007-09-10, 08:33
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glendale california usa
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how do I know that....
everything in the universe is created for me and you all are just robots with no conciouness, and the only one that has conciouness is me, and you all excist for my entertainment, and when I die, everything else will die too?
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# 2

2007-09-10, 08:34
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Re: how do I know that....
Suicide?
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# 3

2007-09-10, 12:13
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Re: how do I know that....
You don't.
You don't even know anything else exists at all.
Or that you'll ever die.

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# 4

2007-09-10, 18:58
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Wasilla, Alaska
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Re: how do I know that....
OP has done a masterful job of displaying a tremendous amount of ignorance in just a few lines.
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"Love is infallible; it has no errors, for all errors are the want of love." -- William Law
"The astrolabe of the mysteries of God is Love." -- Rumi
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# 5

2007-09-10, 19:06
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glendale california usa
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Re: how do I know that....
ignorance? is actuality the truth, the only true thing you know is that you exist, everything else is theoretical
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# 6

2007-09-10, 21:03
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Re: how do I know that....
The only thing you can know for certain is that you exist as a consciousness at this exact moment.
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# 7

2007-09-10, 21:04
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Re: how do I know that....
Yes, how do you know that?
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# 8

2007-09-10, 21:16
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Re: how do I know that....
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Originally Posted by burymeag
everything in the universe is created for me and you all are just robots with no conciouness, and the only one that has conciouness is me, and you all excist for my entertainment, and when I die, everything else will die too?
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This argument is EQUALLY valid as an argument for the judeo-christian god. He has as much evidence as ANY religous person alive today for what he believes. 
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# 9

2007-09-11, 03:22
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Re: how do I know that....
Well what are you going to do about it.
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# 10

2007-09-11, 04:09
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Wide womb of uncreated night.
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Re: how do I know that....
Apparently grammar is subjective.
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#11
 2007-09-11, 04:26
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Re: how do I know that....
This argument is EQUALLY valid as an argument for the judeo-christian god. He has as much evidence as ANY religous person alive today for what he believes. :)
You're a fool, the Bible is backed up by countless amounts of historical & archaeological evidence, thousands of fulfilled prophecies, and much more.
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#12
 2007-09-11, 04:54
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Re: how do I know that....
You're a fool, the Bible is backed up by countless amounts of historical & archaeological evidence, thousands of fulfilled prophecies, and much more.
OHHHHH HERE WE GO
flame for my entertainment
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#13
 2007-09-11, 05:47
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Re: how do I know that....
"everything in the universe is created for me and you all are just robots with no conciouness, and the only one that has conciouness is me, and you all excist for my entertainment, and when I die, everything else will die too?"
Are you a stupid, pretentious fuck? If so, the answer is "NO, I HAVE NO IDEA, WOW."
If you're not, then the answer is "Because there's no reason to think that, what am I, stupid?"
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#14
 2007-09-13, 00:49
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Re: how do I know that....
You're a fool, the Bible is backed up by countless amounts of historical & archaeological evidence, thousands of fulfilled prophecies, and much more.
When people write books they throw in things that are common knowledge and no one gives two thoughts about it.
Thousands of years later, when said common knowledge is rediscovered, theologians point this out as proof the bible is right because it mentions it along with God and miracles.
Harry Potter mentions trains, trains are real, therefore, witchcraft is real.
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#15
 2007-09-13, 03:26
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Re: how do I know that....
Does this reality exist? Well we can't be one hundred percent sure. But we can look at which one seems simpler and then live by that.
The debate is, whether it's simpler for the devil to control just one person or this universe we seem to live in.
Creepy.
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 2007-09-13, 11:28
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Re: how do I know that....
You're a fool, the Bible is backed up by countless amounts of historical & archaeological evidence, thousands of fulfilled prophecies, and much more.
Also a lot of bullshit. Such as the genocide ordered by Herod, for example.
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#17
 2007-09-13, 11:29
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socratic 
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Re: how do I know that....
I seem to remember Descartes' Meditations had something to do with that idea...
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#18
 2007-09-14, 19:55
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Re: how do I know that....
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Originally Posted by socratic
I seem to remember Descartes' Meditations had something to do with that idea...
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Yep.
Meditations 1, then he changed his mind in 2, then used circular logic to prove that the christian god, and therefore the world, exist
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#19
 2007-09-15, 00:22
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Re: how do I know that....
You're a fool, the Bible is backed up by countless amounts of historical & archaeological evidence, thousands of fulfilled prophecies, and much more.
Time to feed.....
The thousands of fulfilled prophecies are prophecies that are written in the bible...and fulfilled in the bible. TA DA. Peter Pan fulfilled the prophecy of making the lost boys fly by thinking happy thoughts...how do we know this. IT IS IN THE SAME BOOK DIFFERNET CHAPTERS.
Your historical evidence is paltry at best and their is no historical evidence in egyptian historical records for MANY of the things in the bible. There is evidence in Egyptian RELIGIOUS TEXTS for many of the things in the bible, however. That is b/c Jews are bad at copy catting.
In short the Bible and nearly everything in it (and ALL of the miracles) are backed up by ............. ahem .............THE BIBLE ITSELF. This is not surprising. Things in the Koran are backed by the Koran, things in the book of Mormon are backed by the book of mormon, things in peter pan are backed by what it says in peter pan.
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#20
 2007-09-21, 19:49
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Re: how do I know that....
everything in the universe is created for me
Actually, you have this bass-ackwards. (Why am I not surprised?)
We all create our own reality.
We are not in the world; the world is in us.
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 2007-09-21, 23:47
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Re: how do I know that....
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Originally Posted by burymeag
everything in the universe is created for me and you all are just robots with no conciouness, and the only one that has conciouness is me, and you all excist for my entertainment, and when I die, everything else will die too?
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Only a robot with no conciousness would say something like that!
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#22
 2007-09-22, 02:02
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Re: how do I know that....
We all create our own reality.
We are not in the world; the world is in us.
I agree. :)
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#23
 2007-09-23, 08:42
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Re: how do I know that....
Solipsism.
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#24
 2007-09-23, 17:08
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Re: how do I know that....
Solipsism.
I agree! :)
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#25
 2007-09-23, 17:20
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Re: how do I know that....
There's a reason Descartes's "I think therefore I am" is so respected and still used today. He's pointing out that that is all that you can really know with all certainty.
Someone else reading and understanding the same sentence does you no good. Your question is still contemplated and largely unanswered today.
If you're convinced that you will cease to exist in death, it's grounds for a nihilistic viewpoint. However, it's also grounds for renouncing all sense of conviction in any other "truths".
So you can't know, but the fact that you're posting here and asking the question shows something about your conviction that pondering the question is worthwhile, or at least that within your existence, pursuit of an answer, even by communicating with "robots", is significant.
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