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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

 
 
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  #1   Add dopeboy23 to your ignore list  
Old 2007-09-09, 15:18
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What do you believe is the sole source of the universe?
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  #2   Add KikoSanchez to your ignore list  
Old 2007-09-09, 15:37
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Al Gore.

Seriously, anything anyone can possibly say will just fall into infinite regress. I shall accept my ignorance.
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Old 2007-09-09, 16:18
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A unified field theory.
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Old 2007-09-09, 16:38
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I don't know.


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Old 2007-09-09, 17:11
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science has yet to answer that question. Therefor I DONT KNOW. Which there is nothign wrong with. Dumbfucks who cant handle not knowing something will make up the god did i t bullshit. But I'm fine with not knowing. It would be nice for us to discover more about the origins of the universe in my life time, but you never know.
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  #6   Add Kazz to your ignore list  
Old 2007-09-09, 17:34
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I think the human being is far from being capable to understand the answer to this.

But I don't think it's God.
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  #7   Add Obbe to your ignore list  
Old 2007-09-09, 17:52
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God, duh.

Oh, and I am God, BTW.

Aham Brahmasmi?
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Old 2007-09-09, 20:31
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I in a way believe that the universe is eternal. You have a big bang but that may not be the "beginning"

Big Bang comes from a singularity. All matter in the universe came from this ultra dense singularity in space. What else has a singularity. Black holes. And black holes are really misunderstood tears in the fabric of space time.

I believe the matter sucked into black holes is ripped to its core elements (hydrogen and helium) and spat back out of the big bang. Their are super-massive black holes at the centers of galaxies. There is a dark energy in the universe that has more mass than the visible universe. I believe this dark energy are black holes.

A constant cycle. I have no proof for any of this and do not maintain that this IS absolutely the way it works. I love science but speculation without proof is fine as long as you do not try to maintain that your speculation is the truth (glaring at christians here).
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Old 2007-09-09, 21:51
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Thumbs up The one question +1

No one really knows.

I pose another question along these lines. Why are all the laws of our universe the way they are? Why is gravity not stronger or weaker? Or the Strong force that holds atoms together? If any of these forces had slightly different values than they have, the universe would not exist as we know it. It would just be a cloud of elementary particles...
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Old 2007-09-10, 06:33
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No one really knows.

I pose another question along these lines. Why are all the laws of our universe the way they are? Why is gravity not stronger or weaker? Or the Strong force that holds atoms together? If any of these forces had slightly different values than they have, the universe would not exist as we know it. It would just be a cloud of elementary particles...
So far, they just are. The same with the universe, I suppose. I'm willing to accept a reasonable 'why' once it's found and proven.
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Old 2007-09-10, 14:53
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I think the human being is far from being capable to understand the answer to this.

But I don't think it's God.
I pretty much take this stance as well.
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  #12   Add redzed to your ignore list  
Old 2007-09-12, 23:38
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What do you believe is the sole source of the universe?
IMO Parmenides nailed this one. "Nothing comes from nothing" therefore there must always have been something, or words to that effect Meaning there is no "source" as such, but then that may depend on your definition of the universe. Is it just the matter,or form, the part that is about 5% of the whole or are you including the other 95% that is made up of what science calls dark energy and dark matter?

In the case of the big bang, where was the singularity? What was it contained in? Was it just suspended in nothingness? How could there be a nothingness? Nothing is no-thing!
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Old 2007-09-13, 00:59
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Bang -> Crunch cycle that gets more complex every time.
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Old 2007-09-13, 01:33
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Bang!
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Old 2007-09-13, 10:42
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IMO Parmenides nailed this one. "Nothing comes from nothing" therefore there must always have been something, or words to that effect Meaning there is no "source" as such, but then that may depend on your definition of the universe. Is it just the matter,or form, the part that is about 5% of the whole or are you including the other 95% that is made up of what science calls dark energy and dark matter?

In the case of the big bang, where was the singularity? What was it contained in? Was it just suspended in nothingness? How could there be a nothingness? Nothing is no-thing!
I more or less agree with this.

I think that the universe, or something approximating a universe has existed in some form or another without a beginning and without an end.
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