We're broken up now but still have a lot between us. She's never done a drug in her life, although I got her drunk once when we were dating and it took absolutely nothing to get her plastered.

It's funny because she used to be all against drugs and smoking and ll that good shit until we broke up and she found out how much I was doing it all behind her back. So after a few extended in-depth talks she came to the conclusion that if she were to try anything then I'm the only one she would do it with, which I was flattered by.

So we started talking about which drugs she'd like best and at first I just suggested smoking a bowl or two with me but she refused and said she wanted to do something else.

So the next day I find out I can get ecstasy. I've done it 3 or 4 times and really enjoyed it and thought about how fun it would be to do with the one girl I love so I called her up. So she ended up giving me money and I got the E. 1 for each of us, which is plenty for her first time doing E, or anything for that matter.

So Monday is the day we've both got the whole day free and we're gonna do it then. What I'm about is her freaking out or going all weird on me or some stupid shit like that.

She's never know what it's like to be out of her mind for a good 4 or 5 hours like that so I just don't know how she's going to react. I know you guys can't help with that seeing as you don't know her but some advice on how to keep things relaxed and under control with her would be nice.

I know I'm going to be in my own little fucked up state, and I've already done 3 of these same pills in the last 2 weeks so I know they're nothing TOO heavy for her to handle.

I'm just hoping that we end up rollin somewhere nice and chill and all goes well between us. Every time I've done E with someone else it always seems that when we start coming down we have both bonded and gotten to know each other quite a bit more, so even after a 6 month relationship I hope it works out like that between her and I.

Comments? Suggestions? Questions?

I hope it has meth in it, and you both die. Do you trust who's giving it to you?

Well that's encouraging. And yes my dealer is one of my good friends, and like I said I've done these same rolls 3 or 4 times in the past few weeks so I know it's nothing too fucked up.

fascinatin'

*falls asleep*

First off, make sure she knows that the E is most likely cut with other shit (unless you've managed to find pure MDMA pills). But really, I've never heard of anyone freaking out on one pill of E. She'll pretty much only be capable of being extreamly happy. Just get some food in her before hand so the comedown isn't so harsh. It'll probably be her first comedown off anything, so make sure you're there for it. Other then that, good luck. It sounds like you guys will have a good time.

Ain't much input anyone is going to have here, I think. Other than "lololololol drugs are bad!" and "lololololol drugs are good!"

Oh, but tell her she can only drop with you if she stops calling herself straightedge (if she even does). Because sXe'rs who aren't even straightedge just piss everyone off.

Well that's encouraging. And yes my dealer is one of my good friends, and like I said I've done these same rolls 3 or 4 times in the past few weeks so I know it's nothing too fucked up.

Alright.....then have a good time. She'll probably fall in love with you again.

Im kind of against this.
I mean , she's never done ANY drugs before and you want to start givin her "e". shit. try her out on a spliff or two before you move on to the heavy crap, besides when she's coming down she'll prolly hate you for getting her high and it will be all your fault for "corrupting" her.

He already suggested that she smoke ganja. Her fault if she gets fucked up, which I doubt will happen because this guy seemed to be pretty sure of what hes getting.

Just make sure she stays hydrated, voodoo.

Just thinking, if she's really avoided drugs all her life why not let her keep going? Sure you've had 'long talks', but if it's something she takes somewhat seriously (probably not TOO seriously, judging from you getting her drunk) then you should really ask her how important it is to her that she stay 'sXe'. You definately could of said something in one of those long talks that's messing with her head.

1 pill each?! If I were in your position I'd double-drop and give the girl one initially and wait 30 mins before giving her another half or re-dosing yourself. After all you don't want to disappoint her on her first time.

Note: make sure she knows she's going to have huge dilated pupil for upto 8 hours after.

*Waits for the "omg i fucked my ex" thread*

Yes, hydration is important. Make sure she drinks a lot of water, and have her eat beforehand, that always helps with me. And tell her that there is a good posibilty there may be a filler in them as well, but you seemed to be confident your hookup is trustworthy.

One close friend of mine that I rolled with kept on denying he needed water, and almost passed out, so no matter what she says, make her drink water. Esp. if you guys are raving.

If you two really want to have a blast, go eat some shrooms in the forest or whatever naturey kind of place you have around you, and enjoy the ride.

Leaves you feeling refreshed and l like you've learned something, where as E just makes you want to take more E, plus the come-down and jaw clenching really suck.

K my bad for labeling her as straight-edge. She's not straight-edge, she's just inexperienced and used to be against shit like this.


Originally posted by Awkibo
Im kind of against this.
I mean , she's never done ANY drugs before and you want to start givin her "e". shit. try her out on a spliff or two before you move on to the heavy crap, besides when she's coming down she'll prolly hate you for getting her high and it will be all your fault for "corrupting" her.


Well she said she was completely positive she wants to do it and I tell her every time we talk about it that I'm not pressuring her into it or anything and it's completely her choice so yeah if anything she's choosing to be "corrupted."

Originally posted by Jizzmeister
1 pill each?! If I were in your position I'd double-drop and give the girl one initially and wait 30 mins before giving her another half or re-dosing yourself. After all you don't want to disappoint her on her first time.

Note: make sure she knows she's going to have huge dilated pupil for upto 8 hours after.


Well I actually might be dropping 2 but I'm not sure yet. I'm only giving her 1 though that's for sure. I don't want to scare her ya know, I just want her to experience it with me.

Originally posted by HeWhoNeverSleeps1
Yes, hydration is important. Make sure she drinks a lot of water, and have her eat beforehand, that always helps with me. And tell her that there is a good posibilty there may be a filler in them as well, but you seemed to be confident your hookup is trustworthy.

One close friend of mine that I rolled with kept on denying he needed water, and almost passed out, so no matter what she says, make her drink water. Esp. if you guys are raving.

I know, I got that covered. Experience has my back.

First of all... I wholeheartedly reccomend this. Virtually any purpoused, intentioned, deliberate use of MDMA HCl can only be a positive. In fact, shit... it can't fuck TOO much up as a "hey d00d lets get h1ghz0rz," but it's the purpouseful, intentioned applications which have life-changing positive benifits on yourself and the world.

...however...

What I'm about is her freaking out or going all weird on me or some stupid shit like that.

She's never know what it's like to be out of her mind for a good 4 or 5 hours like that so I just don't know how she's going to react.

I am really, really wondering wtf you're actually consuming. Nice, clean MDMA will not put someone "out of their mind for a good 4 or 5 hours" on any normal dose. In fact, it will not put someone "out of their mind" for a good four or five minutes.

In fact, the entire experience is more or less sobriety. Sobriety with a degree of emotional health and well-being that infinitely trancends human existance, yes. It is not, however, particularly an inebriant in anything remotely resembling normative or even high recreational dosages.

Perhaps I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're getting MDA instead, which has not had the empathogenesis/psychedelisis dose ratio properly altered by n-methylation.

More likely, however, you should apologize to her for not knowing what the fuck you just put in her body. Alternately, find some 99.99% MDMA HCl, or learn to clean that shit right yourself. Follow the fluorescent bands.

First of all... I wholeheartedly reccomend this. Virtually any purpoused, intentioned, deliberate use of MDMA HCl can only be a positive. In fact, shit... it can't fuck TOO much up as a "hey d00d lets get h1ghz0rz," but it's the purpouseful, intentioned applications which have life-changing positive benifits on yourself and the world.

...however...



I am really, really wondering wtf you're actually consuming. Nice, clean MDMA will not put someone "out of their mind for a good 4 or 5 hours" on any normal dose. In fact, it will not put someone "out of their mind" for a good four or five minutes.

In fact, the entire experience is more or less sobriety. Sobriety with a degree of emotional health and well-being that infinitely trancends human existance, yes. It is not, however, particularly an inebriant in anything remotely resembling normative or even high recreational dosages.

Perhaps I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're getting MDA instead, which has not had the empathogenesis/psychedelisis dose ratio properly altered by n-methylation.

More likely, however, you should apologize to her for not knowing what the fuck you just put in her body. Alternately, find some 99.99% MDMA HCl, or learn to clean that shit right yourself. Follow the fluorescent bands.

Ok well the E I have is definitely cut with something, definitely not pure MDMA. I know what you mean when you say the entire experience is more or less sobriety, it's more like you know whats going on and your still very aware but it all just means so much more you. Everything is so interesting and fascinating.

God damn your making me want to say fuck this whole thing and just eat both pills I have right now haha.

Now that I think about it you're right I shouldn't worry about her freaking out or anything, this should be great.

So another thought...

Ive always heard to NEVER have sex while on it because afterwards there's never any sex that comes close to how good it was while on the E. I think it's bullshit. Maybe thats true for some people but I don't think it would be for me.
I mean, if you ate an apple that was completely fucking orgasmic and you'd never eaten anything like it in your life, that wouldn't ruin all the rest of your apple eating experiences to come would it? No, not for me at least. If I like apples I'm gonna eat apples. Just because one was great doesn't mean the rest suck does it?

Don't worry about what everyone else is saying, if you got the same pills before and the HIGH was good, then go for it. Drugs noobs don't need exact details about what is their pills if you already KNOW the high will be good. She probably doesn't even know the difference between meth/E, so the cut pill is irrelevant. If you have tried these pills, and think that she will like them, then go for it.

I would be mainly concerned with a positive environment. I don't know how old you are, but if shes a teen make sure her parents don't call her or anything like that. Put on some good music and have fun.

After the experience explain that most E is cut, and to be careful and all that shit. But if these pills are good, then I don't see any reason to freak her out with "ITS METH!! ARRG". That will just scare her right from the start.

Ive always heard to NEVER have sex while on it because afterwards there's never any sex that comes close to how good it was while on the E. I think it's bullshit. Maybe thats true for some people but I don't think it would be for me.
I mean, if you ate an apple that was completely fucking orgasmic and you'd never eaten anything like it in your life, that wouldn't ruin all the rest of your apple eating experiences to come would it? No, not for me at least. If I like apples I'm gonna eat apples. Just because one was great doesn't mean the rest suck does it?

I've never done MDMA (Even though I have researched it) and I've heard the same thing. I doubt it. If you're horny enough, sex will be fucking great. Of course, it won't mount to what it was on ecstasy, but it won't ruin sex for you. Like you said with the apple thing. That one awesome apple, shouldn't stop you from enjoying/wanting apples for the rest of your life. Sex is a natural desire. Stop masturbating for a week and see how you feel.

Yeah thats another thing, is finding a place to go. I know I can do it because i've done it before, but I really don't want to drive while on it. I'm 17 and she's 16 by the way.

But yeah we've got this nice spot with a bench swinging from a tree looking out over a really cool pond, and it's all right in the middle of this old cemetery, but I don't think I could handle 5 or 6 hours there, it would get old.

Why doesn't she want to start with weed? Is she against it in particular or just thinks she'll enjoy the E experience more?

Well then thats your biggest problem. For any first drug use the main issue is normally environment. If she is in a place where she feels safe, its almost impossible to have a bad time. Could you do it at your house? Even if your parents are home I doubt they would be harassing you when your with a girl.

E: And don't drive. Besides the obvious reasons, if you get pulled over your in A TON of shit.

Yeah I'm determined to find a secure happy place to do this. If I don't I'm not even going to attempt giving it to her. That would just be stupid and a waste.

I don't think we could do it at my house cuz I have a little brother and sister who are also home from school all day (labor day) and my aunt (who i live with) works from an office here at home. And her house is a hell no just because...
I'm thinking I'll take her to that cemetery and we'll pop them there and maybe have another friend take us from place to place. Even though we both just wanted it to be us two, I don't see any other options. Maybe a friends house but none I know of.

Sketchy:

Well she kinda has this thing about smoke, she just cant handle it. Yeah call her a pussy and all that shit, whatever, but the truth it I wouldn't even want to get this girl high. First of all I don't think she'd like it, I know this girl damn well. Second, she would probably be completely retarded if she got high just because most girls I know do, especially for their first time. Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of girls who smoke bud and most of them are really cool but my girl isn't really that type.

So yeah... out of the question. And no I'm not sexist, it was just an observation.

fascinatin'

*falls asleep*

I don't know if its the weed but I'm still laughing while I'm typing this.

I don't know if its the weed but I'm still laughing while I'm typing this.

And I cringed when I read your post.

Ok well the E I have is definitely cut with something, definitely not pure MDMA.

~shakes head sadly~

...someone needs to steal the MDMA market back from these fucktards.

I know what you mean when you say the entire experience is more or less sobriety, it's more like you know whats going on and your still very aware but it all just means so much more you. Everything is so interesting and fascinating.

:D

...isn't it wonderful?

God damn your making me want to say fuck this whole thing and just eat both pills I have right now haha.

Honestly?

I'd reccomend it.

I mean... if her first time rolling is her first time doing anything is your first time rolling together... seriously. Clean MDMA is a must. God demands it. Really, he's talking to me right now or something.

~shrug~ I'd either eat them and find some pharm-quality d/l-MDMA without binders or adulterants... or clean them. Probably a dH2O pull, 'tone wash of the residue, dual-solvent recrystallization followed by chromatography under blacklight. One of the fluorescing bands is your MDMA.

...but... seriously. You're describing a situation far too special and magical for dirt.

Ive always heard to NEVER have sex while on it because afterwards there's never any sex that comes close to how good it was while on the E. I think it's bullshit. Maybe thats true for some people but I don't think it would be for me.
I mean, if you ate an apple that was completely fucking orgasmic and you'd never eaten anything like it in your life, that wouldn't ruin all the rest of your apple eating experiences to come would it? No, not for me at least. If I like apples I'm gonna eat apples. Just because one was great doesn't mean the rest suck does it?

Yeah, I'd tend to agree. Emotional hyperconnectiveness and enjoyment of touch is cool and all... but, fuck... if I still enjoy a good back massage or the feel of silk after that... lol...

...I'd always thought that the reason not to have sex on (clean) E was that dumping a fuckload of serotonin into one's brain kills both libido and erectile potential... but, hey... if it works, go for it! :)

~shakes head sadly~

...someone needs to steal the MDMA market back from these fucktards.



According to the documentary Ecstasy Rising, the reason they mix other stuff with MDMA is because it's cheaper to manufacture that way. They made pure MDMA when it was legal, because it was easier to buy/sell. Don't blame the people doing this, blame the people who made it illegal. The ones who gave out false studies, the ones who tried to outlaw it before they even found anything wrong with it.

According to the documentary Ecstasy Rising, the reason they mix other stuff with MDMA is because it's cheaper to manufacture that way. They made pure MDMA when it was legal, because it was easier to buy/sell. Don't blame the people doing this, blame the people who made it illegal. The ones who gave out false studies, the ones who tried to outlaw it before they even found anything wrong with it.

O RLY? I thought it was for the lulz.

O RLY? I thought it was for the lulz.

http://www.farfromneutral.com/exodus/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/o_rly.jpg

...I'd always thought that the reason not to have sex on (clean) E was that dumping a fuckload of serotonin into one's brain kills both libido and erectile potential... but, hey... if it works, go for it! :)


Yeah I think I've heard that somewhere too. Oh well, I guess I'll find out right? Haha.

find out what you have.

http://www.ecstasydata.org/