Hey, I don't post on Totse much, just read, but I felt like writing all of this down and asking for opinions about it.

Well I'll start by describing the girl. She's 16, black hair, angel bites, septum piercing, stretch earing, loves mayhem, goes to metal gigs and has dated pretty much every member of a local metal band around where I live. She's extremely funny, loves British comedy, Adam Sandler and making fun of everything. She's my kind of girl for sure.

Anyway, about a year ago she added me on myspace. Turns out she lives a few minutes walk from me, but goes to another school in the district. I thought she was super hot from her photos, obnoxiously told her I wanted to fuck her, and left it at that really. She added me on msn and we talked for a few days, but just sort of stopped.

Fast foward to February of this year. I met her in town one day by coincidence, through a mutual friend. We ended up going back to her house and hanging out for a bit. Turns out she's pretty cool, funny, hot irl too. That was it really. Our meeting sort of sparked some msn talk again, but it died off like it had done previously.

Then a few weeks later, I ended up going to her house one night with our mutual friend and a friend of hers, and we all smoked weed. We did this maybe three seperate times..and it was pretty boring. Nothing amazing. She still seemed cool but we weren't really getting close or anything.

After those few times, she started inviting me around to her house without our friends, and we just hung out, or went for walks, and talked. Just as friends.

Few nights later at a party we were at, with our friends again and a few other people, she mentions to my friend that she wanted to fuck me. Then she had to leave for a few minutes, during which time her best friend told me she was really into me, and was worried I didn't like her. This got me by suprise..as I really didn't expect it..but meh. When she came back, she just acted normal, and even a little bit cold towards me, and I couldn't get her alone for talking to before my friends got me to leave. I wasn't super dissapointed, but still kinda bummed I missed out on the chance.

The next night she mssaged me, and told me that if I was older she'd go out with me. Thing is, I'm 15, and she's 16, but has a history of going out with guys around 18. They've all been local metal heads, long hair, beards, pretty much men, and here I am, just some 15 year old kid to her.

I kept going to her place, and she came to mine, and we went for late night walks together and parties. It was pretty much like we were dating, except we didn't do couple stuff. Many people asked us if we were going out.

About two weeks ago we went to a friend of hers house together and hung out for a bit, when she told me to go outside with her. When we got out there, she told me she was going to ring this guy she met at a gig, who'd given her his number, msn and myspace. She was sort of jokingly ringing him, because she'd described him pretty weird. She ended up talking to him for half an hour. When it got to 30 minutes, I just told her I was leaving, and walked the 30 minutes home.

As I was walking, she texted me and said she felt bad about being on the phone, and apologised to me. Then she told me she liked me, and she had for a while. I was pretty pissed off at her at the time, so I dismissed it and didn't go back to get her, which was pretty stupid looking back on it, meh.

I've been over to her house a few times since then, and only breifly mentioned the liking each other thing. Haven't talked about it in depth. She's the kind of girl who's hard to have a conversation like that with. She's mostly cynical and sarcastic..which I like, but it'd be hard to talk about this with her.

So what do you think? It kind of feels like I'm in the friend zone now because I left it too long to talk to her about it. But she hasn't been acting differently towards me at all. Tonight she invited me out to see her twice this weekend, and said she'd call me untill I get credit next Thursday. She seems just as enthusiastic about me, but I haven't been able to find the right place or setting to talk to her about it. Geh. I dunno.

Any advice?

Pretty long. Thanks for reading if you did..

Sounds like she's pushing you away a little bit just to see how hard you'll come after her.

If you ask me, that shit is retarded and I don't play those games. But I'm jaded. If you think she's worth the time, then by all means, when she plays her little games, play back. Be forward with her (not obnoxious, but forward...it's a thin line). But at the same time, keep it cool. Don't make an ass of yourself, but be confident about your actions. Don't hesitate to say something direct to her, because you think you might look like an idiot afterwards.

I've done this a few times and it works pretty well. Next time your alone with her just sitting next to her, make eye contact and dont say anything. If she breaks it just go back to what you were doing. If she keeps it just keep staring at her and move ever so slightly torwards her perhaps with a slight grin across your face. At this point you should be perfectly set up for a kiss. You'll know by reading her expression and body language if you should go for it. Its a great way to find out if a girl you were iffy about wants you.

Sounds like whenever she sees how much she's pushing you away, she wants to remind you of how much she likes you. I wouldn't say you're in the friend zone just yet, but try to make a move on her. If she said she wanted to fuck you, chances are it shouldn't be hard. And with the whole "her acting cold thing", it was probably because she was embarrassed and would never have said that to your face. That being said, she may not be the easiest to talk to if you were to ever build a relationship with her.

Usually if you suspect that you are in the friend zone, you are. That said, might as well go caveman and see how far you can get before she says stop. Also, you better do that fucking soon.

Who cares if you're in the friend zone? She sounds like a waste of time anyway.

She was probably somewhat frustrated that you haven't made a move yet. If you don't, she isn't going to wait forever. To put it plainly, and in a manly way (this IS totse,) "tap dat bitch!"

No, seriously though. Make your move, son. Your description of her kind of reminds me of myself, and I've been in that situation before, I hate making the first move in a relationship, and a lot of girls do.

Git to it!