About
Community
Bad Ideas
Drugs
Ego
Erotica
Fringe
Society
Technology
register | bbs | search | rss | faq | about
meet up | add to del.icio.us | digg it
Go Back   Community > Society > My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 #1 
Old 2007-08-12, 14:35
Thunderhammer Thunderhammer is offline
Regular
 
Default Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

This thread discusses the capability of the holiest of the holy to do something equally un-holy.

One would assume that due to the casualty of omnipotence that God would indeed be able to commit sin.

Perhaps this is an explanation of the apocalypse??
 #2 
Old 2007-08-12, 16:24
Regular
 
San Lorenzo
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Perhaps from a different understanding of God.



If God is All, then of course.

If All is One, then what would the difference be?
 #3 
Old 2007-08-12, 16:27
Thunderhammer Thunderhammer is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Obbe
Perhaps from a different understanding of God.



If God is All, then of course.

If All is One, then what would the difference be?


I was hoping for a christian viewpoint on the matter, but you are right, of course.
 #4 
Old 2007-08-13, 04:42
Regular
 
San Lorenzo
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

but you are right, of course.

Awww, thank you. :D
 #5 
Old 2007-08-13, 10:13
Regular
 
Location
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

If God sins, does he have to pray for forgiveness from him self?
 #6 
Old 2007-08-13, 10:22
Regular
 
Rockford, IL
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by i poop in your cereal
If God sins, does he have to pray for forgiveness from him self?


How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if Chuck Norris popped a wood?
 #7 
Old 2007-08-13, 16:28
Thunderhammer Thunderhammer is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by i poop in your cereal
If God sins, does he have to pray for forgiveness from him self?


My opinion would be no, because he is the embodiment of forgiveness AND sin.

Basically a win-win situation.

:)

Now i see where some of my recent thoughts have come from, i.e; if god felt like it, he could send people to hell for being good for the wrong reasons.
 #8 
Old 2007-08-13, 16:29
Thunderhammer Thunderhammer is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

If God sins, does he have to pray for forgiveness from him self?

My opinion would be no, because he is the embodiment of forgiveness AND sin.

Basically a win-win situation.

:)

Now i see where some of my recent thoughts have come from, i.e; if god felt like it, he could send people to hell for being good for the wrong reasons.

EDIT: Of course, this means that god is spontaneous.
 #9 
Old 2007-08-13, 17:24
Regular
 
Tea and Crumpets country
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Since God is all wise it would never be deemed a sin, but a necessary act for the greater good.
 #10 
Old 2007-08-13, 20:30
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

it's by definition impossible. if God sins, God is no longer God.
 #11 
Old 2007-08-13, 20:50
Guildenstern Guildenstern is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

i would think that destroying humanity with a great flood is a sin, seeing as it's mass murder and all, but i don't know. what say you, christians?
 #12 
Old 2007-08-13, 21:23
demolition_lovers demolition_lovers is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

does a god not choose what is a sin, and what isnt, and what conditions are attached.

for example
I am the christian god
adultery is a sin
i commited adultery
therefore, i commited a sin

BUT

because i am god, i choose what is a sin, and what conditions apply to it
i chose adultery to be a sin
exempting me is a condition
i choose to apply this condition to this sin
therefore, i did not commit a sin
 #13 
Old 2007-08-14, 01:15
Thunderhammer Thunderhammer is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by demolition_lovers
does a god not choose what is a sin, and what isnt, and what conditions are attached.

for example
I am the christian god
adultery is a sin
i commited adultery
therefore, i commited a sin

BUT

because i am god, i choose what is a sin, and what conditions apply to it
i chose adultery to be a sin
exempting me is a condition
i choose to apply this condition to this sin
therefore, i did not commit a sin


Do me a favour and forward this post to every christian you know.
 #14 
Old 2007-08-14, 02:52
WorBlux WorBlux is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by demolition_lovers
does a god not choose what is a sin, and what isnt, and what conditions are attached.

for example
I am the christian god
adultery is a sin
i commited adultery
therefore, i commited a sin

BUT

because i am god, i choose what is a sin, and what conditions apply to it
i chose adultery to be a sin
exempting me is a condition
i choose to apply this condition to this sin
therefore, i did not commit a sin


No not quite.

Since sin is an action that separates a person from god. And since God is all-powerful he cannot be separated from himself. Therefore God cannot sin,.
 #15 
Old 2007-08-14, 04:47
Savin_Jesus Savin_Jesus is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

since god isn't a living breathing thing as much as an entity he can't commit a sin. Things he creates can commit sins because well, we make the rules of what a sin is, I believe that basic morals are ingrained in to our DNA, the ability to differentiate between wrong and right.

I guess that I also believe that experience/knowledge/ the ability to learn, per say also passes down through genetics, but I don't know.
 #16 
Old 2007-08-14, 07:15
Regular
 
(|:::::::::::::::::8
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Well, using a Judeo-Christian version of God for the sake of arguement, I think that yes, it is perfectly possible for God to commit an action that for humans would be a sin.

But just because God can do so, doesn't mean he would do so.

Furthermore, there would be no reprecussions if God were to commit such an act, since the justification of those acts being sins is because God says they are, and can punish humanity for commiting them.

And who's going to punish God?
 #17 
Old 2007-08-14, 15:59
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

I was hoping for a christian viewpoint on the matter, but you are right, of course.

Christianity says God has never sinned.
 #18 
Old 2007-08-14, 19:47
Moderator
 
Wasilla, Alaska
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

In my reality, there is no such thing as "sin," that being a concept invented by the priesthood to help keep the flock in line.
 #19 
Old 2007-08-20, 04:29
Sir_Fos Sir_Fos is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious? Or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?
 #20 
Old 2007-08-20, 06:18
Regular
 
Somewhere in the universe...
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ---Beany---
Since God is all wise it would never be deemed a sin, but a necessary act for the greater good.



Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
 #21 
Old 2007-08-20, 06:52
Regular
 
Tea and Crumpets country
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

^ Cool
 #22 
Old 2007-08-22, 23:02
niggersexual niggersexual is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Of course God could sin. His subjects might say that he is perfect and everything but that would just be sucking up to him. They want him to favor them so that they won't be smited but that doesn't mean that it's necessarily true.
 #23 
Old 2007-08-23, 21:21
Thunderhammer Thunderhammer is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Can a 'God' commit sin? - I think yes, what do you think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant
In my reality, there is no such thing as "sin," that being a concept invented by the priesthood to help keep the flock in line.


Very true, which is the hidden premise of this thread.

It may not be the case in all circumstances, but i'll guarentee that at some point the vatican has been infiltrated.

I guess you could say i'm just trying to find the 'true balance' of religion, as in; how much power should christianity be weilding in the "name of good"
 
To the best of our knowledge, the text on this page may be freely reproduced and distributed.
 

totse.com certificate signatures
 
 
About | Community | Bad Ideas | Drugs | Ego | Erotica | Fringe | Society | Technology
Hot Topics