From the things Jeff has said or written about the original ethos of the site, it's meant to be a place where anybody can put their ideas across and share their knowledge and information, not a place where their input can be approved or denied based on grounds of 'worthiness'. If there's any screening process I'm sure it's just there to weed out advertisments or pure spam.

When I originally set up totse the web did not exist. Text file BBSes were one of the few ways that ANYONE could get their message across to the masses. (Well, the masses of techno-geeks anyhow.)

Now that anyone can set up a web page / BLOG / MySpace page / YouTube video there really isn't much of a lack of ways to get your message out there, although some hosting companies take a dim view of the type of material we have here and sites that carry it often get shut down.

The original purpose was to get as many ideas out there as possible to force people to think for themselves and not accept whatever they were spoon-fed by the mass media.

Well, now the web IS the mass media, and there are a million different views on a million different web sites with millions more added daily.

So what is the purpose of the site, now that the mass media mirrors totse?

Huh? Doesn't Totse exist to give sad losers like me the respect and accreditation we don't get in real life??!

Ok seriously now, I still think the values of Freedom of Expression, Freedom Of Information, Freedom To Think For Yourself and Freedom To Talk To Whom The Fuck I want Even If They Are Spammy Kidiots are more relevant now than when you started.

Living in the UK I see the almost daily erosion of civil liberties and the ever growing censorship and control of the media. You realise that under British law visting totse could already be an offence and Golem Brown, our glorious leader, is making moves to ban such sites as totse?

how many rights we really have and how the gov't can limit them in ways they feel


Word Wise

The governments can be very "tricky" in their wording of things. Something to make yourself aware of and wise to very quickly if you want to gain the upper hand. Armed with the information here, all American visitors are challenged to search their own laws and see how much of the data provided here applies to them in their country - as well as all other western nations. Only by searching out the truth of the laws and your original rights and freedoms yourselves, will you be empowered to protect your 'natural person' as a human-being.

Here's 4 tricks outlined below:

FIRST TRICK:
The first "trick" of the government is the re-definition of certain critical words in each Statute(Act). They(the government) want you to assume the ordinary meaning of the word so as to trick you into reading and interpreting the Statute in their favour. Two key words that are re-defined in almost every statute are the words "person" and "individual". There are at least two "person" in law:
A 'natural-person' is a man or woman, created by God.
An 'artificial-person' is a corporation, created by Man.

Here are the exact definitions from Barron's Canadian Law Dictionary, 3rd edition:
natural person. A natural person is a human being that has the capacity for rights and duties.
artificial person. A legal entity, not a human being, recognized as a person in law to whom certain legal rights and duties my be attached - e.g. a body corporate.

You will observe that the natural-person has the "capacity"(ie ability) for rights and duties, but not necassarily the obligation. The artificial-person has rights and duties that may be attached(ie assigned) by laws.

SECOND TRICK:
The second "trick" of the government is to use the Interpretation Act to define words that apply to all Statutes, unless re-defined within a particular Statute. Without this knowledge, you could assume the ordinary meaning for the words you are reading, not realizing that they may have been re-defined by the Interpretation Act. Unless these words have been re-defined in another Statute, the underlying definitions for the two most important words still apply, either from the interpretation Act, or the Canadian Law Dictionary. Basically they are defined as follow:

from the Canadian Law Dictionary we find that:
INDIVIDUAL means a natural-person.
from the Interpretation Act we find the re-definition:
PERSON means a corporation(an artificial-person).
from the Income Tax Act we find that:
INDIVIDUAL means an artifitial person.
PERSON means an artificial person(amongst other things)

In the Canadian Human Rights Act you will see how INDIVIDUAL and PERSON are used and how they apply to natural and artificial persons.

THIRD TRICK:
The third "trick" of the government is to use the word "includes" in definitions instead of using the word "means". They do this in some critical definitions that they want you to mis-interpret. If they used "means" instead of "includes" then their deception would be exposed, but by using "includes" they rely upon the reader to assume that "includes" expands the definition, whereas in reality it restricts the definition in the same manner that "means" restricts the definition.
Here is a "means" definition of the word "person" from the Bank Act:
PERSON "means" a natural person, an entity or a personal representative;
Here is an 'includes' definition of the word "person" from the Interpretation Act:
PERSON, or any word or expression descriptive of a person, 'includes' a corporation.

To expose their deception, substitute the word 'means' and you have PERSON, or any word or expression descriptive of a person, 'means' a corporation.(viz-artifitial-person)

Both "means" & "includes" are restrictive in scope because they only encompass a part of the whole. Typically they are used in the following form:
person 'means' A or B or C(and nothing else)
person 'includes' A and B and C(and nothing else)
There is a Legal Maxim that supports the restriction of "includes":
Inclusio unius est exclusio alterius...The inclusion of one is the exclusion of another.

The definition of the word "include" is key to understanding your potential loss of natural-person. This is the major trick used by the government in an attempt to take away your natural-person rights. Unless you know this, you will voluntarily forfeit your rights.

FOURTH TRICK:
The fourth "trick" of the government is to modify how the word "includes" is used in order to make an EXPANSION in the definition when such expansion is required. This "trick" helps add confusion to the use of "includes" convincing the readers that "includes" is modified to become expansive rather than restrictive:
also includes
and includes
includes, without limitation
including
the expansive definitions usually take the following form:
PERSON means A or B or C and includes D.

DEFINITIONS:
Barron's Canadian Law Dictionary does not provide definitions for "include" or "means" therefore we have to look in the next 'source' for the definitions.From Black's Law Dictionary, 4th edition, here is the definition for the word "include":
include. To confine within, hold as in an inclosure, take in, attain, shut up, contain, inclose, comprise, comprehend, embrace, involve.
including. may, according to context, express an enlargement and have the meaning of 'and' or 'in addition to', or merely specify a particular thing already included within the general words theretofore used.
inclose. To surround; to encompass; to bound; fence; or hem in, on all sides.

It is stated in the above definition that the verb INCLUDE only has limited scope. On the other hand the participle, INCLUDING(but not limited to) enlarges the scope. When used in a definition, INCLUDE does not expand the existing definition of the word. It is easy to confuse because we naturally assume the existing definition of the word, then assume INCLUDE means to add this new interpretation to the existing assumed definition of the word. Our assumptions fail us in this case. From now on, when you see the word INCLUDES, mentally substitute the word MEANS and you will not be "tricked" by this definition anymore.

FOR THE DOUBTING THOMAS:
If you look into any statute, you will be able to find a definition that uses the word INCLUDES and when you attempt to broaden the scope of that word, the statute will break down because it will not be able to support the inclusion of the ordinary meaning of the word.

Today we live in a world where we are told that our fundamental rights still exist, but there are times when we wonder how this can be so. For example, we can have the full force of the law brought down upon us with a traffic violation, income tax regularity, refusing to fill in census forms, etc. These offences do no harm to another human being and in no way violate any individuals fundamental rights and freedoms, so we ask "how can this be?"

The answer is that your fundamental rights and freedoms are still intact as a natural-person, but you have been tricked into believing that you have to follow the Laws created for the artificial-person.
Following the Second World War, the United Nations Assembly prepared the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.The assembly called upon all Member countries to publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and other educational institutions, without distinction based on the political status of countries or territories."
I have never seen this done in any school. Have you?


In order to impliment SLAVERY of it's citizens and control them according to its whim, the government had to invent a system that would not violate a human-being's fundamental rights, but would allow the government to "own" everything produced orgained by its citizens.The technique used by the government was to create a CORPORATION for every human-being in Canada. As creator of a CORPORATION, the government can demand anything it wants from the CORPORATION. As a legal entity, a corporation does not have feelings and cannot be hurt. It can be subject to slavery and complete domination by it creators and the corporation must obey its creator. These corporations must then have a business number and so one is assigned to each PERSON it creates.
Such a number is called a S.I.N.(Slave Identification Number aka Social Insurance Number)
Finally, the government needs to appoint an Officer of the CORPORATION to run the day-to-day activities. Such a position requires a contract since the Officer will be held accountable for the actions of the CORPORATION. So, the government tricks John Doe to become the Officer for the JOHN DOE corporation by signing such contracts as Driver's Licence, BankAccounts, Citizenship Cards, Passports, etc.
In the 'Income Tax Act', the government just decrees that John Doe is the legal Representative for the Officer of the JOHN DOE Corporation and the only contract involved in the annual Income Tax Return(yes it is a contract for one year) wherein John Doe gives his aggreement as Officer of JOHN DOE for the previous year. Unfortunately John Doe does not know that he is an Officer for the JOHN DOE corporation and must therefore follow the rules imposed upon JOHN DOE. Hence the confusion sets in because John Doe believes that he is JOHN DOE and therefore has to forfeit his rights and duties upon demand by the government and its officials.

CAPITALIZATION:
There are five different levels of capitalization used in names of "persons";

human-being: john doe
natural-person: John Doe
quasi natural/artificial-person: John DOE
corporation/artificial-person: JOHN DOE
Nomme de Guerre: DOE, JOHN

Here is a summary of the rights and freedoms of the above "persons":
The 'human-being' has all the unalienable rights and freedoms as provided by GOD.
The 'natural-person' has all the rights and freedoms as provided by man with the Magna Charta and Canadian Bill of Rights.
The 'quasi natural/artificial-person has lost some rights, but not all rights. At this time it is not evident how to quantify which rights have been lost.
The 'corporation/artificial-person' has limited rights and freedoms as provided by the creator of the Corporation.
The' Nomme de Guerre has no rights and freedoms and is a complete slave to the Admiral.

There is so much more than what I have just shared here. It is only the tip of the iceberg. But it is also enough to make you aware of what you are up against and the deceptions built into our system of rule by governments.
Somethings to think about.
I have no ID, no drivers license, no passport, no bank accounts, no address.
I AM, a human being. I require no such things.
Free yourselves now.
your humble servant,
ancient clown 24 October, 2006

totse is a valid way to discuss lots of subjects with people all over the world.
That could be said of a chat programme but the likeliness of being able to succsessfully discuss the deep meanings behind neon genesis or how to cook a serloin to perfection on a IM programme are low, simply because you have no time to really think about your response and word things in a manner that make things more understandable.



The last four or five days without totse have been unbearable for me. I'm sure not all posters suffer social anxiety, I'm sure most posters have real life friends, but for those who dont, Totse is a lifeline.


Human interaction is vital. If we dont communicate this world is doomed.

The last four or five days without totse have been unbearable for me. I'm sure not all posters suffer social anxiety, I'm sure most posters have real life friends, but for those who dont, Totse is a lifeline.


*The man who spent the totse down time watching 'Serial Experiments Lain' nods in agreement*

*The man who spent the totse down time watching 'Serial Experiments Lain' nods in agreement*

You havent stooped to the lowest you can go untill you start trying to pretend the guinea pigs are totse members.
here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/raveyoyo/howmany.jpg) are the ones I used as props.

*The man who spent the totse down time watching 'Serial Experiments Lain' nods in agreement*

Me too :D

But Totse to me is somewhere to pass and collect information.

Like an encyclopaedia without rules.

Knowledge is true power.

Totse is discussion.

A laid back online community that is based around quasi-anonymous discussion on a wide variety of topics.

The information that totse holds within its textfiles is still read by the masses.

Totse is Bartertown, but without the Thunderdome. Also, it's not powered by pig shit. Nor is it ruled by Master-Blaster or Tina Turner. Alright, maybe Master-Blaster.

Totse is free.

Totse is a forum now. A forum with archives and archives of information which some can be valid or invalid and lead to dangerous injuries. It is a forum of misc. subjects for all to come together and converse. We have the otaku nerds in the anime forum or the sports freaks in the sports forum. I come to Totse, because Totse incorporates a vast many subjects to be discussed, analyzed, debated, discussed some more and read.

With the exception of SG. That place is shit.

And I consider HB a place of... unusual bonding. The HB crew are out to have fun and be little kids on the internet. By all means, take no offense, for I am a little kid at heart too.

So what is the purpose of the site, now that the mass media mirrors totse?

Full-on sales pitch, and I have to pretend as if someone besides Jeff Hunter posed this question:

The purpose of this site is to serve as a gathering place, or a nerve center, if you will - of like-minded human beings hell bent on expressing their individual ideas. It is a two-sided coin. One one side, it is somewhat of a relic in that it houses a ridiculously large database of text files on just about any given subject of interest (or disinterest). These articles defy the usual shelf life of internet missives in that it constantly ebbs and flows right alongside the course of public awareness, revolving around the alternative philosophies of different people, from different places, going in different directions. While still preserving the ideas of yore, of trends long passed and conspiracies long solved - it serves as a reminder of the constantly changing states of minds that pass through quickly but are logged seemingly forever in cyberspace.

On the flip side, it's the fresh, brand-new face of a collective consciousness that is very much alive and teeming with it's own brand of community awareness. It lives, it breathes, it feeds on the ideas expressed within the confines of it's forums. Most noteably, it has a way of making passers-through covet the privelage of belonging to a community that, anonymity be damned, seems to remain as cohesive and unpenetrable as the fiercest of cults. The guise of anonymity encourages a level of online disinhibition that allows it's posters to speak freely and openly, exposing the attitude and perception of today's young visionaries.

The mass media only attempts to mirror Totse, but Totse has the advantage of mirroring the very finger that sits on the pulse of the current generation's views on The Real World. That kind of thing is so raw, so visceral, so not-made-for-public consumption - that the mass media fails to capture the true mindset of it's younger, thinking generation. The media en masse is forever tethered to the obligation of presenting a shiny, happy, neatly-wrapped package to the rest of society that gives a somewhat glossed-over version of what people are thinking. Totse embodies the real, the ugly and the malformed views of people who insist on having a voice.

And it doesn't make any apologies for doing so.

Full-on sales pitch, and I have to pretend as if someone besides Jeff Hunter posed this question:

The purpose of this site is to serve as a gathering place, or a nerve center, if you will - of like-minded human beings hell bent on expressing their individual ideas. It is a two-sided coin. One one side, it is somewhat of a relic in that it houses a ridiculously large database of text files on just about any given subject of interest (or disinterest). These articles defy the usual shelf life of internet missives in that it constantly ebbs and flows right alongside the course of public awareness, revolving around the alternative philosophies of different people, from different places, going in different directions. While still preserving the ideas of yore, of trends long passed and conspiracies long solved - it serves as a reminder of the constantly changing states of minds that pass through quickly but are logged seemingly forever in cyberspace.

On the flip side, it's the fresh, brand-new face of a collective consciousness that is very much alive and teeming with it's own brand of community awareness. It lives, it breathes, it feeds on the ideas expressed within the confines of it's forums. Most noteably, it has a way of making passers-through covet the privelage of belonging to a community that, anonymity be damned, seems to remain as cohesive and unpenetrable as the fiercest of cults. The guise of anonymity encourages a level of online disinhibition that allows it's posters to speak freely and openly, exposing the attitude and perception of today's young visionaries.

The mass media only attempts to mirror Totse, but Totse has the advantage of mirroring the very finger that sits on the pulse of the current generation's views on The Real World. That kind of thing is so raw, so visceral, so not-made-for-public consumption - that the mass media fails to capture the true mindset of it's younger, thinking generation. The media en masse is forever tethered to the obligation of presenting a shiny, happy, neatly-wrapped package to the rest of society that gives a somewhat glossed-over version of what people are thinking. Totse embodies the real, the ugly and the malformed views of people who insist on having a voice.

And it doesn't make any apologies for doing so.

Damn but thats good, girl.

Totse is Bartertown, but without the Thunderdome. Also, it's not powered by pig shit...
Totse is free.

Obviously, the mass media is steeped in PC, and remains mainstream, dummied down.

Totse is "kinda" free.
We need to keep pushing that envelope.

Of course, appealing to the far right of the bell-shaped social awareness curve is tough when your core constituency is still in high school.
But we try.
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Obviously, as a newbie mod I don't know squat about previous legal battles ...

A fucking cool place filled with some of the coolest guys I've had the chance to converse with. Real life or internet.

It's a great place to get shit off your chest, help out a fellow member with their shit, have a laugh and a joke and learn a few things along the way. Kinda like an online pub!

There's a wealth of information, fictional works, opinion-based writings and things that just generally make you think about thigns a little more deeply than before.

To be honest, life would have gone very very differently without TOTSE...And I'm glad I found it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0RniSNWdYM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0RniSNWdYM

Nice song. :)

It's as though they want to be the second coming of the Beatles..


Oh gosh..
1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alwBmF2HLvg)

*changes underpants*

You havent stooped to the lowest you can go untill you start trying to pretend the guinea pigs are totse members.
here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/raveyoyo/howmany.jpg) are the ones I used as props.

Oh god, which was was Xip!!! :p

stay bad
~stormy

And I consider HB a place of... unusual bonding. The HB crew are out to have fun and be little kids on the internet. By all means, take no offense, for I am a little kid at heart too.
HB is a sandbox filled with little kiddies...


...throwing poop at each other!

stay bad
~stormy

HB is a sandbox filled with little kiddies...

...throwing poop at each other!

Well, how else does one bond?

Oh god, which was was Xip!!! :p

stay bad
~stormy

Obviously the cute little one under all the others!

I used This one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/raveyoyo/fudge.jpg) as you though. She's a glamour pig. :)



Back on topic,totse is also a place to discuss the things you wouldnt ordinarily discuss in real life every day life. I'm sure most strangers in the street wouldnt care for photos of my guinea pigs. Or my stash of porn/bad music and photos of brandon lee/the guy from the rasmus, ect.

Like psycho said, this place is like a big E-pub. Only with out the stench of stale alcohol and the over priced yet painfully delicious pork scratchings.

Obviously the cute little one under all the others!

I used This one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/raveyoyo/fudge.jpg) as you though. She's a glamour pig. :)



Back on topic,totse is also a place to discuss the things you wouldnt ordinarily discuss in real life every day life. I'm sure most strangers in the street wouldnt care for photos of my guinea pigs. Or my stash of porn/bad music and photos of brandon lee/the guy from the rasmus, ect.

Like psycho said, this place is like a big E-pub. Only with out the stench of stale alcohol and the over priced yet painfully delicious pork scratchings.

Haha, I loves you!

I like the insight of how people perceive totse. I find it like a life parody at times. It's just the same in fast forward!

stay bad
~stormy