This is really my life, none of this is fictional, but it is fucked up as you will soon understand.

The situation is based around myself, my fiance, and her family. To say the least, her family is increadibly disfunctional and manipulating. Her dad has a double masters degree in engineering and in spychology. He spent many years in the army as a colonel, and then worked for the country X's police force teaching how to interrogate properly as well as working in forensics. Both her parents came from messed up households where there was a abuse, both physical and sexual. Other than my fiance 19, she has three siblings aged 13 F, 5 M, 3 F. My fiance dealt with a lot of sexual and physical abuse during her childhood.

Then I came along. My family is quite the opposite. I grew up in the suburbs and then lived on an acreage during my teens. An extremely normal upbringing.

Now that you have an idea of the situation now it gets ugly. My fiance, who immigrated from country X a few years ago is in limbo with her parents in complete control. They have her ID, papers, and full control over whether or not we get to stay together or she is deported. We are at their mercy, and they know it. Slowly overtime, they've been manipulating the situation so that we must submit to their demands and desires or we will never see eachother again. This is the love of my life, so I'll do anything to keep her. The problem is that these people are sexual predators, pedofiles, etc.

One thing that her parents enjoy is having their kids watch when they have sex, and participation is also heavily encouraged if you want to keep them happy. They now consider me one of their kids too. I'm a pretty good looking guy, and on a few occassions she mentioned to my fiance that she wanted to fuck me. Even her dad thinks I'm cute. I'd imagine that the other kids are also involved in their fantasies that they have yet to divulge.

Lately, they've been manipulating the situation in a way that I'm going to have to submit to their dominance, as well as my fiance. This means that they want to watch us have sex, and they want us to watch them, and most likely have sex with them. Her dad is her step dad, and he wants to fuck her, and her mom wants to fuck me. Most likely I'll also be expected to have sex with her younger sisters and brother as well.

The dilemma is that if we don't do what they want, they will have her deported, destroying both of our lives. You'd think we could have them arrested, but they manipulate the cops, social workers, etc, to keep out of trouble. Remember the degree in psychology. If I bail on my fiance, I will be damning her to a lifetime of sexual abuse much worse than we'll have to endure to stay together. Most likely I'll just have to fall in line and just try and repress the memories later.

Jump ship NOW! Or put your foot down and refuse to participate in any of that freaky shit.

*stares*

I expected the thread title to be a lie... but dude...

Fuck.

Shit.

Piss.

Damn.

Jesus.

Mary and the Apostles.

That is weird. I'm trying to formulate a plan in my head (I'm usually good at thinking out of the box...) my internal OS doesn't seem to be responding. I think my neurons can't comprehend such a situation.

However, here's my crack at things.

1). Get evidence of the parents doing something fucked up. Video is the best, say that you want to tape it so you can watch it later. Make them think that you are as fucked as they are.

2). Have your girl friend steal back her ID.

3). Run off with your girl friend, and get married. FAST. She will be able to stay in the country due to the fact that you are a citizen (if you live in the US, or other countries where this applies).

4). Take your evidence---and it better be VERY good evidence---to high up authorities. I'd recommend an SVU, or another unit dedicated to sexual misconduct.

5). Get the parents deported, and then file for guardianship of your wife's siblings.

Everyone lives happily every after!

PS: If you take evidence to the authorities, concrete evidence, the parents WILL NOT be able to talk their way out of it.

i call fake. first off, her dad's a retired (meaning 20+ years) army colonel, but his 19 year old daughter immigrated from another country? and i really don't think that a colonel would risk his entire military career so he can have his daughter watch him have sex

edit: just read that it's her stepdad, but still. have you gone to the police? if you do, they have to ask questions to the younger children, and all it takes is one of them saying that the parents made them watch them having sex to have them taken away. nobody's good enough of a manipulator to have a social worker let a child go back to a child molestor.

edit #2: plus, you can't just deport someone for no reason. unless she's here illegally, they can't make her leave the country until her visa expires. plus, i'm pretty sure that if she came here before she was 18, she's a citizen now anyways

edit #3: from the US Immigration guide:
You may apply for naturalization if:
You have been a lawful permanent resident for five years,
You have been a lawful permanent resident for three years, have ben married to a US citizen for those three years, and continue to be married to that US citizen,
You are a lawful permanent resident child of United States citizen parents, or
You have qualifying military service.
Children under 18 may automatically become citizens when their parents naturalize.

so uh... i call bullshit once again. too many of the details in the story don't make sense.

That's hot

WTF?!

But I agree w/ ZX.

Then again... WTF?!

just in case you are telling the truth, you can download this form for your fiance to apply for citizenship herself because one or both of her parents are citizens.

http://www.visapro.com/US-INS-Forms/Form-N-600.asp

kill them... they deserve it...

Marry her and she wont be able to get deported. Her parents will HAVE to give her the papers back (i assume she is over the age of 18) and you can report them for abuse.

Now theres a problem, her siblings will most likely be taken away from the parents. Your finance wont let them go into a foster home so now, you both will most likely need to care for them. Think about it, is the love of your life worth needing to deal with all this? You and her wont be anything short of a family.

OR you can walk away from all this right now and forget about her and all her problems. Her family isnt the only corrupt family in this world. They still have it good compared to many others.

Its your choice.

another thing too is if she's been abused as a child she more than likely has some deep seeded psychological issue's. whether you stick with her or not you need to do something about thows parents though. call the cops do something because people like that deserve to rot.

I call bogus.
What's the question? There's no question. If there was a question, what would the answer be? Call the police, obviously. There's nothing else you can do.
Sounds like you just wrote the first chapter of a fantasy erotica.

i'm not going to call bullshit quite yet because there are people out there like this but if i was in your situation i wouldn't be wasting time asking questions/talking about it on totse i'd be doing something about it what ever that may be. My question to you is how long have you known about this and not done anything?

When I have NO WHERE else to turn, I post on Totse.

I just cling to a hope that maybe... just maybe... I will get a response other than "Huff Raid!!! Lolz" or "Malatov everything Ha ha haz."

No, this is very much real.

He made colonel in South Africa. He was third generation in the army and he had people move him up quickly. I've seen his uniform, it's legit. The problem with her dad is that this fucker seems to know everyone, even the cops. He's got a lot of money and he just buys people. I swear he's an intelligence officer or something. If you cross him, he'll destroy you. I'm one smart fucker too, and he's faulted me at every attempt, never seen anything like this. He runs his shit with military precision. This man does not slip up.

My fiance tried to have him busted a couple times, but he somehow convinced doctors that she was mentally unstable to shut her up. The other kids won't say shit cause they know the same fate will befall them if they try.

I recently found out they had their house bugged and monitored with cameras. I fucking looked hard for them and found none. Then my fiance's mom asked if we were fighting over me watching porn, and they couldn't have known shit about it unless they had hidden cameras. We weren't really fighting, more or less my fiance was upset.

As for trying to get video evidence, fat chance. Even if I did convince him I was one of them, he'd probably want to film it himself, and I would probably have to fuck one of his underage daughters. No way in hell I'd turn in a tape of me fucking an underage girl.

xilikeeggs0-"edit: just read that it's her stepdad, but still. have you gone to the police? if you do, they have to ask questions to the younger children, and all it takes is one of them saying that the parents made them watch them having sex to have them taken away. nobody's good enough of a manipulator to have a social worker let a child go back to a child molestor."

That's what I thought too, yet I've seen three social workers come and go since I've been around. This guy has a masters degree in psychology and trained the South African police to interogate people. The youngest kids are brainwashed pretty good and segregated from other kids and people. The 13 year old knows better from what happened to her sister. Also, as punishment, they'll increase the intensity of their abuses if they're disobediant. Until I met this family, I never realized how helpless kids are in the hands of molesters. It's really sad.

After I stayed at their house with my fiance for three weeks when they were on vacation, her mom told her not to wash the sheets on the bed we slept in. They wanted to sleep in it cause it smelled like us from having sex in it. My fiance washed the sheets but they still slept in it for two nights. This is the guest bed, they have their own.

They have us pegged and I don't even think I can escape as they'd probably fuck me over somehow. I'm just going to put everything off as long as possible, but eventually I will have to fall in line.

The really fucked up part is that it's not like they're telling me what I have to do, instead they want me to fill in the blanks and participate willingly. My strategy is to mentally condition myself to willingly take part. Kind of like turning pain into pleasure.

I told you guys this was the most messed up thing you'd ever here of.

fall in line? are you on fucking crack whats the matter with you? Are you to afraid of this man to stand up for whats right and do something about it? where the fuck do you live? if you're within 250 miles of me i'll personally drive there and take this under control for you. Who cares if he knows the local cops? get the state police involved do SOMETHING! otherwise i'm deffinately calling bullshit because no one in there right mind would just fall into line with some shit like this. Or just take her and leave. its as simple as that.

I'm pretty sure, if you aren't lying for some odd reason, that having a family as psycotic as your fiance's would constitute "baggage" and I'm get the fuck away from them. Perhaps doing something like calling social services beforehand could be in order. But yeah, tell her when the dust settles that you'll be there to help her.

Yea dude your being brainwashed too


When somebody is particuly skilled at messing with someones head they can induce the idea that you have no choice but to fall in line

This is why hes not telling you to do it but to participate of your own freewill and make the connections yourself and in doing so you feel like youve put yourself in this situation not him therefore your feelings of guilt for what youve done and fear of what will happen keep you bound to him

The surest sign of this is you acceptance of the idea to simply fall in line.
If you truly love your lady you would be fighting this to take her away to save her from him.

Trust me tread carefully and dont let him slowly manipulate your mind to his will
You will know what to do

Did you take this out of the text file section?

CALL. THE. POLICE.



Mental abuse is a typcial part of growing up around your parents, sexual abuse IS NOT!!

I cant beleive you'd be such a pussy as to tolerate these people doing this shit to your girlfriend.


Poilce! NOW!


And then run for the fucking hills with your fiance!



Goddamn that's some fucked up shit.

What will happen to the kids then? The parents will never be allowed to have them back. Who will care for them?

How much do you love this girl? There's a hard and a soft option. Soft option , you submit and ingratiate yourself until you find what you need to break his hold.

Hard option....

Use your brain.

Accidents happen.

You prepared to risk life in prison for this girl?

And, yes I am being serious.

Adoption?

oooh!

I kinda think it would be a blessing if those evil people had their children taken away from them.

Why don't someone just refer this thread to FBI, they can track him down I bet so. N then they can solve this mess.

Are we sure the OP is in the US?

It's an idea, but I dont know if they, or any authority would take a random email seriously?

we're in the age where people find it fucking hilarious to make prank calls to the fire brigade about there being a tradgic fire when there actually isnt. I cant see an email address to be able to contact an authority being any better treated.

Yeah, but this is the most messed up thing I've ever heard about.

I pray that this is a troll thread. But i have heard of this kinda thing before. Usually its men in some form of power. To be frank it almost always ends with the abused either in the funny farm or in jail for killing the abuser. Some manage to run, depends on the country etc.

Adoption?

oooh!

I kinda think it would be a blessing if those evil people had their children taken away from them.

They will probably be split up, and the older sister most likley wont agree.

A South African army colonel from the old boys club, of that age, WILL have enemies...

A relative of mine, a former special forces officer (Rhodesian SAS and Selous Scouts at different times), was murdered as payback for some of his actions while in service.

It wouldn't suprise me if I heard the same thing had happened to her stepdad... If I was a detective, I'd definitely consider that he might have been killed for the same reason, particularly if his loving daughter had seen some black men speaking in zulu sitting in a car accross from his house earlier that day.

Murder can be justified.

No matter how much you love this girl, DO NOT go having sex with children for her. Who do you think would be better off in the long run, your girlfriend for sticking with her or her little sister for you not having sex with her?

It ain't even a fucking choice, if it ever comes down to your girl or not having sex with a kid, you walk your ass out that door and don't look back, unless it's to point the cops in the right direction, or aim the sniper scope.

This makes me quite upset to be South African, to be honest. And I can understand how this man can wrap authorities around his finger, because it's all too easy to do there, especially for military men.

(sad now) :(

The RCMP have been called, and nothing happened. Her parents are blackmailing me and my fiance. I'm fucked if I leave, and they'll fuck me over if I try and get them busted. Her Dad worked in forensics and can frame me up without breaking a sweat. I've seen him pull strings in ways that would astound you. You don't know who is under his thumb. I'm pretty much certain now that this man is a spy or something, and I know he is a member of the freemasons. It's actually quite likely that I'm being brought into the inner circle. I'm under full surveilence all the time now. I'm being brought into the circle of trust. My whole life I've had a freemason always looking over my shoulder. No matter where I go, I'm watched very closely. Its starting to feel like I'm in some kind of cospiracy crazy shit, so fucked up that there is nobody to go to. So I post here, where fucked up shit doesn't suprise people.

My fiance made this comment about it, " its just one more thing to check off on fucked up things that have happened in your life list."

Ax Demon- There is nothing I could do to mess up her sister more. She had to watch her parents fuck since very young, gets fucked by her dad, and has lately been prostituting herself out to older men. She knows I have about as much choice as she does. Honestly, the fact that I haven't molested her probably confuses.

I don't expect anyone else to really understand my stance because you aren't in my position, and their is just no way to understand unless you are.

i regret reading this thread

fuck

My bel-air scenes are going the FUCK off!


If this is real...
Holy
shit

kill them
thats the best thing to do

sounds hot

what's the problem again?

you have the opportunity to fuck your girl, her mom, and her sisters at the same time!

jesus man jesus jesus jesus!

This thread is so full of shit. If it was true, she'd just get herself deported back to South Africa. And you'd be a man and go with her.

I totally do not believe this. Where are you even posting this from? The house with the parents?

spychology.

He must be that guy who cures patients who are suffering of Jamesbonditis.

:(
This thread makes me sad to be a human.
But seriously, you have to do something!
This piece of shit has to be stopped.
Tell people, tell somefuckingone.
If not the police, there must be some sort of mob or even fucking underground movement.
Its like those movies, some poor guy gets unlucky and has to put an end to some piece of shit and it happened to be you.
You cant walk away from this, do something!

This might backfire, but I'd risk the deportation. I have a bad habit of calling people on their shit... but this is tyranny (if it is real), and that's just something I don't put up with. If you're a fucking man in true love, you will risk it all. And if this is fake, then by all means, fool me once, shame on me.

If it is real, then sorry, but I am hardcore skeptic of everything.

Understand, from my point of view you are a stranger on the net posting this interesting story that, I guess, could be believable. And also keep in mind that this is Totse.com.

Again, I'd risk the deportation (losing her papers). You do not need to be married to be in love and live together.

Her siblings? Hmmm, now this makes everything difficult. If it was just her, no problem.

I guess the question comes down to.... Exactly just how much do you and your fiance love her siblings?

EDIT: When I mean risk the deportation, I mean call him on his bluff, and if this backfires, then escape. About her siblings? See the question above, and you'll know what I intend.

omfg this is weird.

He sounds like Robert De Niro's character in Meet the Parent's.

Anyhow, I think the obvious answer is to kill the father.

In the hypothetical situation outlined above, I'd simply say leave, run. There are always under the table jobs, if you know where to look for them (small family owned restaurants are a good choice, for example, as well as many other cash based businesses) . If you're both young and healthy, you can probably cope with excess walking and a small period of homelessness, though starting out with cash would obviously be better for you if you can manage it.


Get as far away as you can, and find an honest cop before he gets to them.. (lower crime areas tend to have cops that are pretty cool people, in my experience). Tell them your story and your fears, as well as everything you know. Abused women shelters may also be able to help - and are generally more likely to believe an abused than an abuser, regardless of their skill at manipulation, since almost all abusers are skilled manipulators, and no matter how good someone is, there are personality traits, language clues, and body language cues that are hard to hide. Not everyone can be scammed.


Any bad situation can be survived, and overcome, with enough strength. Giving in is never the answer, since it eventually removes and reduces your capacity to cope, rather than increasing it.

This is total bullshit. If this crazed stepfather was so far up the OP's ass as to have him tailed and watched by members of the 'Masons' how in the fuck does he post on here? I mean really. Does he evade his 'tail' and hide out at the local Panera Bread to use their Wi-Fi for a minute? And if for some reason he is at his own house using the web, what you live alone dude? If you live alone, steal the girl and the siblings away to there. Hole up and call the authorities and the news media. Don't come out until you make such a scene that THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING. (trust me, you could accomplish this is you TRIED) If you don't live alone (which I think is the case), who do you live with? You probably live with your parents or some adult...TELL THEM!! If your girl is only 19, I can't imagine you to be much older, meaning, where in the fuck is YOUR family during all this??

If you can provide answers to some or ANY of these questions, I'll put this back into the 'could be true' part of my brain...

They let me post because with totse, there is always a seed of doubt. There is no validation of my story here.

I can't run at all, I'm watched like a fucking hawk.

I went to the lake last weekend. My fiance talked to her parents when she got back and her mom knew we were at the lake, and which lake, and nobody told her we were going anywhere. I think they're tracking my cell phone. They seem to know everything about me, even things from my childhood which nobody knows. There is no escape.

As for going back to South Africa, the rest of her family lives their, and there is even less protection for us. The situation is pretty bleak.

Fuck that shit. Don't get involved. Fuck all that shit and don't worry about her. Jesus christ. This is the third thread today with a dumbass OP. She's got issues you don't even know about yet. Stay the fuck away.