Is it weird that I truly believe that if I were ever attacked and someone tried to rape me, I'd be able to get away? I mean, I'm not looking down on victims of rape but I think that I could fight back well enough to NOT get raped.

Or is this just another example of my growing (unhealthy) grandiosity? Probably.

I'm pretty thin though so that would probably hinder me a little but a few kicks to the balls and gouges to the eyes I think would do that trick, I swear.

Or do a lot people think like this too?

sometimes they're holding a weapon and the chick is too afraid to do anything. and sometimes the guy is huge so he might knock you out or hold you down.

i'm a guy, but if i were a chick, i'd carry a stun gun with me, at least some pepper spray at night or in suspicious neighborhoods.

See... it sounds all nice and great till you're in the situation. For example, a situation that I could relate to (as a guy) is when a guy plans out how he's gonna fight another guy. He has this plan, but 9 times out of 10 it all goes to hell when you're scrapping.

Say someone rapes you, they pull out a knife and have it at your throat. You still going to kick and gouge? No. You're going to lay there and do what they tell you or else he'll slit your throat.

There's a good chance you can fend him off, but your chances of fighting him successfully, especially when he has a weapon, are not all that great. If he's determined, and pumped full of adrenaline (or a stronger drug, which is bad news) a kick to the balls will only slow him before he grabs you. And if he has you in his hold and is of any strength, chances are you won't be able to do much.

It's sad, but it's the truth.

Best rape advice ever : C'est comme une voiture qui vient dans une cité et tu laisses pas des trucs de valeurs à l'intérieur si tu ne peux pas empêcher qu'elle soit forcée. Ma chatte , je ne peux pas empêcher les connards d'y entrer, j'ai rien laissé de précieux.

- Baise-Moi


Which for the americans among us means (very roughly and off the top of my head, my french sucks so apologies to any native french speakers)

"Its like when you park your car in the hood. You don't leave anything of value in it incase someone breaks in and steals it. I can't prevent the jerks breaking into my cunny but I leave nothing of value in it."

I'm guessing that you're a girl and if so you would have very little chance of getting away for the simple reason that girls aren't built for fighting and guys are.

Guys are bigger, stronger, tougher and when it comes to fighting faster than girls are.

If a girl punches a guy, unless she hits him somewhere vital, the guy will just shrug it off.

Men often weigh approaching twice as much as the average woman and unlike the woman that they're attacking they are strong enough to throw that weight around.

Men's bodies are built to shrug off damage. Men have larger chins to protect their throats, deeper set eyes and stronger somach muscles to name just a few.


Men are a lot tougher and a lot stronger than women give them credit for. Take it from me, unless you got very, very lucky you would not be able to fight off a male rapist.

Depends,

If the person is scared, they won't be able to fight back.

If the person is restrained, they won't be able to fight back.

If the rapist will kill the person if they try to escape, they probably won't fight back.

Men's bodies are built to shrug off damage. Men have larger chins to protect their throats, deeper set eyes and stronger somach muscles to name just a few.


Men are a lot tougher and a lot stronger than women give them credit for. Take it from me, unless you got very, very lucky you would not be able to fight off a male rapist.

I understand that men are stronger than women. But in my insane mind, I still feel like I would be able to twist and get away. By myself.

And in the event of a gun or knife, I always imagined I'd be able to pull some karate shit and knock it out of his hand. I wouldn't be afraid of a knife anyway. A gun I'd be more hesitant.

Oh yeah- yes, I'm a girl.

Why does everyone complain so much about rape. I'm a guy, and if a halfway decent looking girl tried to take advantage of me, I wouldn't put up a fight. Although, that's kind of a fantasy of mine...

I understand that men are stronger than women. But in my insane mind, I still feel like I would be able to twist and get away. By myself.

And in the event of a gun or knife, I always imagined I'd be able to pull some karate shit and knock it out of his hand. I wouldn't be afraid of a knife anyway. A gun I'd be more hesitant.

Oh yeah- yes, I'm a girl.


Please for the love of god don't try that unless you really, really have to. Karate shit only works in the movies as does the saying "the bigger they are the harder they fall"

More like "The bigger they are the harder they punch, kick an choke"

I understand that men are stronger than women. But in my insane mind, I still feel like I would be able to twist and get away. By myself.

And in the event of a gun or knife, I always imagined I'd be able to pull some karate shit and knock it out of his hand. I wouldn't be afraid of a knife anyway. A gun I'd be more hesitant.

Oh yeah- yes, I'm a girl.

NEVER NEVER NEVER try using some kara-te shit to knock a weapon out of someone's hand.PLEASE.

The hand is a very fast mobile object. Untrained you have almost no chance and you will either end up raped, dead, looking stupid..most likely all 3. And as anyone combat trained will tell you, you go for the man not the weapon.

And also you should be far more scared of a knife than a gun.

I think if the the guy was determined you wouldn't have a chance. I'm a pretty well built guy (6'2" 200 pounds) And me and my ex-gf use to wrestle around once in awhile she was 5'6" 110 pounds it wasn't much of a fight pretty easy to pin a girl half the size of you. i could pin her arms down before she'd even be able to get close to my face. and that was just in fun westling around. And as far as givin him a knee in the nutz it pretty hard to get a good nut to knee conection when he's on top of you in the dark you're not going to have time to look for your target. i'd say the odds of getting away are 50/50 though. I think it was on ophra one day some girl was on there that was in this situation and she pissed on him... worked for her. also say the rapist is my size one good punch to your face and you're not going to do much fighting back.

I didn't really mean like a karate chop, but I think I could wrench any item out of a man's grip. Or if they aren't expecting it, I could probably yoink it.

I guess the general consensus is I shouldn't kid myself. I still can't shake that I could get away though.

Two things that bother me about rape

1) I think if it came down to it, and a girl had a choice between being raped and killing her attacker, most girls would let themselves be raped.

2) Theres a very different dynamic when a woman is raped then when a man is raped. Women are much more likely to lay back and take it. While I'm pretty sure most guys would fight with everything they had if they saw a big black cock coming after them.

I think that I'd suggest that you approach a male friend that you trust, ask him to put his arm around you from behind, and then try to figure out what to do next when your feet are a foot off the ground and he's squeezing you so hard that you can't draw a breath. Most men are way stronger than females. If one of them hits you full force you'll just wake up raped. Running like crazy, screaming like a banshee, is a great offensive move.

Hmmm try it sometime. Get a male friend to pretend to threaten you with a toy knife or gun and tell him to grip it for real.

Try it a few times. Most times you'll end up with him either saying 'bang' or you'll feel the plastic knife point go home.

If you're close enough and fast enough to go for the weapon then you're close enough to damage him.

beat me to it, sorta.

I'm about 5'6", pulling in about 106lbs. You just gave me a pretty realistic perspective for me. But then again, your ex was probably not trying to hurt you too badly.

As for the punch to the face-- that's true, it would probably knock me out. But most rapists don't want a limp victim. They want them to be alive and kicking, no pun intended.

the thing is do you really think he's just gonna come up to you with gun/knife and say, "bitch get naked and lay on the ground" if i was going to rape some chick i'd tackle her without her ever seeing me. once on top of her hold both her arms down over her head with one hand and that leaves my other hand free. what could you possible do in that situation?

I hate rapists though i'd like to catch something like this going on sometime. fucker would never know what hit him.

I'm about 5'6", pulling in about 106lbs. You just gave me a pretty realistic perspective for me. But then again, your ex was probably not trying to hurt you too badly.

As for the punch to the face-- that's true, it would probably knock me out. But most rapists don't want a limp victim. They want them to be alive and kicking, no pun intended.

You'd be suprised about her trying to actually fight back... she's made the nut to knee connection before.

Most rapists just want sex. doesn't matter if your fighting back or limp. think of date rape...

I'm about 5'6", pulling in about 106lbs. You just gave me a pretty realistic perspective for me. But then again, your ex was probably not trying to hurt you too badly.

As for the punch to the face-- that's true, it would probably knock me out. But most rapists don't want a limp victim. They want them to be alive and kicking, no pun intended.

He wouldn't have been trying to pin/hurt her AT ALL. You would be shocked at just how strong men actually are.

As suggested earlier, get a guy friend that you completely trust to test yourself against. Tell him to try his utmost to pin you down and that you will be trying to escape. Do NOT I repeat NOT try a real groin strike on him though. Get his consent beforehand about where you can and can't hit him.

EDIT: Agree on a safe word beforehand, too.

You'd be suprised about her trying to actually fight back... she's made the nut to knee connection before.

Most rapists just want sex. doesn't matter if your fighting back or limp. think of date rape...

You make a good point. BUT STILL. I am unflappable, for all the wrong causes. I suppose I am just asking for it.
I wouldn't ask anyone to "play rape" on me. That would be kind of weird. And I don't have rape fantasies like some women do so I wouldn't do this during sex either.

Yup. Your crazy. If someone wanted to rape you, you'd be raped. I could understand your over confidence if you had taken plenty of fighting classes of different types: disarming of guns and knives, strike fighting, grappling/wrestling(although it probably wouldn't help much due to your size), but if you walked down several dangerous streets at night, cutting through ever alley you could, you'd get raped and wouldn't feel so confident then.

The problem is your not giving your attacker enough credit. It's not like he just holds you in place for ten seconds before starting to rip off your shirt, then waiting another ten seconds before ripping off your pants. He's moving quickly and not jut holding you from running away. He's also pinning you down and maybe punching at you once or twice. You don't get ten second openings in which you can decide what to do. It isn't like a game where you have time to decide which target to hit to cause the most damage and then run away.

Think about it. If every woman that you passed in the street one day told you that you were going to go one on one with them could you beat them all? No? Then how could you possibly fight off ane adrenaline pumped, horney, male when you get tackeled out of the blue and aren't expecting it.

Get a weapon.

I'm about 5'6", pulling in about 106lbs. You just gave me a pretty realistic perspective for me. But then again, your ex was probably not trying to hurt you too badly.

As for the punch to the face-- that's true, it would probably knock me out. But most rapists don't want a limp victim. They want them to be alive and kicking, no pun intended.

I don't think you've ever been a fight/scuffle/realistic time that you have had to grapple with a man. You are grossly underestimating the strength of the average rapist man. and you are grossly underestimating how terrified you will be if someone holds a knife up to your neck and you know right then that if you make one wrong move every hope dream and everything you've ever loved will be gone. a gun is just the same.


I'm not saying that fighting back is a bad thing though, you should carry around mace/stungun if you need to. But don't think that you are going to be able to beat up a rapist like a ninja. If you take this idea with you when you are being attacked/raped you are going to get attacked/raped. When it happens, use your mace or run away as fast as you fucking can.


edit: god dammit Achilles Armour you took the words right out of my post

Your best bet is to just avoid it all together. The town i use to live in had a problem with girls getting assaulted and raped on campus. but the thing is they were getting attacked on this walking/running path that was out way by itself surrounded by tree's/woods and unlit. And it was always happening at night. So why the fuck would these girls keep going out there and running at night? I mean this happened a lot so why would you take your chances going out there to run at night? avoid possible places where someone could rape you and you shouldn't have a problem or just don't go out by yourself.

I don't think you've ever been a fight/scuffle/realistic time that you have had to grapple with a man. You are grossly underestimating the strength of the average rapist man. and you are grossly underestimating how terrified you will be if someone holds a knife up to your neck

I've been in plenty of scrapes with a man. Trust me. I know how much stronger they are but I know I can do some damage too. And if I were in a life-or-death situation, instead of a pissed-off-at-you mood, I would definitely be able to kick it up a notch.

But I guess that terror part is a whole different thing.

The problem with a mace can is that I don't think I'd have the time to unzip my purse, dig around to find it, pull it out and then spray in the general direction of the eyes.

I've been in plenty of scrapes with a man. Trust me. I know how much stronger they are but I know I can do some damage too. And if I were in a life-or-death situation, instead of a pissed-off-at-you mood, I would definitely be able to kick it up a notch.

But I guess that terror part is a whole different thing.

The problem with a mace can is that I don't think I'd have the time to unzip my purse, dig around to find it, pull it out and then spray in the general direction of the eyes.

but were they horny and filled with adrenaline? Being Horny makes you strong trust me. I remember back in my freshman year of high school there was a kid i knew who was going to fuck this girl before his football game, it was a big game allot like the super bowl for freshmen. She didn't show up and he did was better faster and stronger than I've ever seen him. It turned out that was a huge scheme to get him to do better but that's another story. The point is he'd lift you over his head and break you in half if you tried to hit him anywhere but the balls.

That's why it's rape, because you don't want it.

If you sit back and let a girl take advantage, it's not rape because you [i]want[i/] it.


To be fair, there are some women who'd kick the fuck outta most guys. But the average woman isn't exactly Mrs Muscle. Still.

Another problem too about fighting off an attacker is that its not always one guy sometimes there's more than one.... just a thought...

http://moronland.net/media/pictures/duntoldrape.jpg

Yeah, fighting and being willing to fight to the death does put off a potential rapist somewhat.

Probably were out fucking and got another round on theirway back

romaniw: you only weigh 106 pounds THATS FUCKING SMALL! If any guy wanted to rape you he could unless you either ran away or had a weapon on you. The guy would have soooo much adrenaline running through his veins that even if you did manage to kick him in the balls or gouge at his eyes that would just piss him off even more and you would get the shit kicked out of you and raped!

So dont think that you could 'take him' b/c nine times out of ten you wouldnt be able to do jack shit but lay there and get raped unless you had a stun gun, knife, etc...

you should seriously get off you fucking pedestal before someone really does rape you. you kinda sound like your asking for it!!!!!

I'm about to start a habit of bringing a soap bar in a sock as a make shift weapon around with me. Not because I'm in any danger of getting raped, but wouldn't mind something similar in size/shape as a good counter weapon to a knife.

I currently have dog mace in my pocket so I'm fairly confident I could get away too. Even if it was muscle bound amazons they get sprayed in the eye and they're fucked.

when i was a little kid one of my friends got his hands on some mace and i ended up getting sprayed i remember it not really being very bad. i was somewhere around 12 years old and i didn't even go home really didn't hurt that bad my eye's just got all blood shot and puffy.

what the hell is wrong with you man

I accidentally did this to a girl. We were playing some game or another, and I caught her from behind. I wasn't squeezing her at all, only holding her hard enough so she couldn't get away, and then she pinched me. I let go, wondering why she pinched me. Apparently, I was holding her tight enough that she couldn't breathe. I felt really bad.:(

what the hell is wrong with you man

cuz wanna get sprayed?


To answer your question. What's wrong with me is relative to whats wrong with you. So wtf's wrong with carrying mace? If you knew me you'd wonder why I wasn't strapped.

Never get taken.

If you had something like that happen.Suppose you chose out of fear to not resist; maybe he'd let you go when he's done. Maybe not. What stops him from fucking you, killing you, and dumping you in a fucking ditch?

Nothing.If he's all set to rape, why not be set to kill?
How many women do you think didn't fight back when they should have , and now are dead because of it?

Yes, the very best thing is escape, and noise.I recommend one of those little "skreecher" high decibel alarms
**that you keep handy at all times, not buried in your purse**


Decide now that you will never be taken while you have the means to resist.Decide now that it's his body in the morgue, not yours. Being strong helps, but you don't need it to win.There are many martial arts that focus on speed and doing heavy damage quickly, and many methods developed with women in mind.

Develop the confidence that comes with training, the certainty that you have already decided how to handle a problem, and the total commitment of being prepared to maim and kill to preserve your life.
Yeah, he might get you on the ground, but having his fucking eyeballs ripped out will sure as hell slow him down, I promise.

I certainly hope and wish that you will never experience the fear, terror, and permanent trauma that comes with being raped.I know a girl that lost her virginity to forcible rape, by a man that was never caught, and she will have to deal with that forever .

Never get taken.

Go to a gym and start working out, and get a stungun or pepper spray. I've wreaslted with a couple girls about your size, and you would be nothing to pin down. And I'm not all that big, only about 5ft 6in and 150lbs. I don't say this to scare you, but more to alert you.

I used to think I could get away too...And then a man (actually 3 men) attacked me and I was completely helpless. Seriously, they subdued me with ABSURD ease. I couldn't even scream because one of them had punched me in the stomach and I could hardly breath, much less scream. And then once I got my air back, one of them was on top of me and I seriously felt like I was being crushed by his weight.

If a man ever attacks you and he's already got you pinned down, don't fight. If you fight, he'll smash your head or strangle you. The point is he'll rape you whether you fight or not...He'll just hurt you a lot worse if you fight.

I guess that is one hell of a wake up call! I hope nothing happened??

I know I'm a "pedestal" as someone said, but you can't help it. Naturally, I'm going to think that "it won't happen to ME". A lot of people have that mindset about things.

5'6" 106 pounds huh you could always move to minnesota... i'll protect you ;)

I don't know I can outpower any girl I know. I mean sure they might be able to slip out of my grip if we're just playing around but as soon as I get hit I get alot angrier, like ALOT so assuming most guys are like me in that way as soon as you put in one good hit you'd probably get a swift punch to the face before you could blink. No matter how karate bruce lee eye gougeing bullshit you can do you'll still get knocked out/disoriented majorly.

Actually a good example is this one girl I know, she's a second or third degree blackbelt in karate and she can put moves on me but she doesn't have enough strength or body weight at all to do it to me if I put up a struggle. So that's pretty useless. She could knock me out with a kick but she'd have to do it unexpectedly and get me in the jaw without me trying to block it at all.

So go ahead and think that way if it makes you feel safe but I doubt you could do it to most guys.


EDIT: Yeah..I don't think you've been in a real life or death situation or been robbed or anything like that. Just take my word for it it never happens how you want it. You have a fight or flight in the back of your head you can't help it, when your adrenaline gets going you either run or try to fight back, most people run. But even that can be countered when you have a knife poking into you. Alot different then you could ever think.

It's basically like....Well I can try to do something but their probably alot quicker with that one stabbing movement then you are with your swing/kick/push/whatever.

And if your thinking of getting a weapon don't bother with regular mace or pepper spray get "Bear Repellant" it's kind of like mace...accept stronger and it shoots out like a fire extinguisher. I almost got stabbed by some irish motherfucker one time and I had a can of it and it stopped him in his tracks and made him fall to the ground in pain and drop his knife. I didn't even aim it at his face and I covered the whole top of his body in an oily bright orange mixture of doom.

Either that or a tazer, i've been tazered and it isn't too bad but the worst part is the fucking noise and that bright light it makes, just seeing it gets your heart going.

You could also get an axtendable baton it would fit in your purse/pocket and you can just flick it out into a 26" steel baton.

This isn't fucking Alias or some fucking Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon bullshit. 106 pounds won't be able to take on 180+ or more than one man. It just won't fucking happen. Make sure you think about your Hapkido grips when you are being violated anally.

unless you are carrying some sort of protection or are athletic and skilled at martial arts its unlikely most women could fend off your average rapist (keep in mind they are often armed, on drugs and full of adrenaline)

I know someone who managed to fend off a rapist who was weighed more twice as much as she did and was jacked up on drugs. But she was carrying a concealed firearm with her, so by fend off i mean shot dead.

My adice is just to avoid situations whare this sort of thing is likely to happen and travel with a friend or two.

Ohh and by the way that "mace" you have probablly isn't real mace, thats been banned for some time now "at least in the states", but their is a "mace" brand of pepper spray

If a man ever attacks you and he's already got you pinned down, don't fight. If you fight, he'll smash your head or strangle you. The point is he'll rape you whether you fight or not...He'll just hurt you a lot worse if you fight.

Uhm no.

Sorry but thats not good advice.

The simple truth is that if he's going to kill you then he's planned to do it anyway.

So you must always assume he is going to kill and fight accordingly.

Its a bit of a fallacy that women get killed for fighting back. Most rape victims killed were dead the moment he got them. A few get killed out of panic on the rapist's part.

And horribly, but again fact, the more damage he does you the easier it'll be to prove rape in court.

I think it would be pretty easy to prove stranger rape at least, because there will be bruises where he held her down and vaginal tears where he forced her.

Size isnt nescesarily the definitive point of if you're gonna get raped or not.
When I worked at this late night junk food place, there was this nasty motherfucking turkish security guard working there (yeah the area was so bad subway needed a security guard). He was built like a fucking bull and wanted to do..stuff to me.

I wont say that weapons are great,but if you're severely smaller than a prospective attacker (my 156 to his 340 or so) it's better to have something than just your bare fists.
I tend to wear a leather trenchcoat, and I wore a machette underneath it. I felt kinda silly, and a little bit like a pathetic wannabe matrix person, but it made me feel alot safer. And if he *had* tried anything whilst I was on my way home, I'm confident in the fact I could have taken his fucking hands.
Luckily it never came to that.

I know it would be best to have an entourage with you at all times, carrying a knife and a can of mace pepper spray with you but most victims of rape are the ones who look vulnerable or alone or weak. A rapist isn't going to go after the 200 pound dyke.

It's not that easy to just carry around all these weapons with you all the time.

A rapist isn't going to go after the 200 pound dyke.


Ya think?

You're confusing rape with sex.

Its about power.

Raping a 200lb man hating dyke would appeal to alot of rapists.

Ya think?

You're confusing rape with sex.

Its about power.

Raping a 200lb man hating dyke would appeal to alot of rapists.

Maybe a more experienced serial rapist.
A first or second timer is going to go for the lonely little girl standing on the corner by herself. I've seen way too many episodes of SVU and taken way too many stupid psych classes. I know this.

Just for future reference, yoyobek a machette isn't a good self defence weapon because you need room to swing it. If someone is trying to rush you, chances are you won't be able to swing it.

What you need is a (fairly short) stabbing knife and some pepper spray. Not mace, bear mace or CS but pepper spray.

If you're right handed, carry the knife on your right hand side, if you're left handed, carry it on your left. Carry the pepper spray on the opposite side to the knife. Don't carry either on your front or back because noone ever got raped lying on their side.

I understand that men are stronger than women. But in my insane mind, I still feel like I would be able to twist and get away. By myself.

And in the event of a gun or knife, I always imagined I'd be able to pull some karate shit and knock it out of his hand. I wouldn't be afraid of a knife anyway. A gun I'd be more hesitant.

Oh yeah- yes, I'm a girl.

you wouldnt be scared of a fuckin blade?
geez, i think a blade can do more damage than a gun, what it lacks in range it more than makes up for in how much it fucks you over, think. if a guy shot you, (any further than 5 metres and thats a decent shot when adranaline is involved), bullet goes in, you go down, fair enough. a knife can be used while on the run while still being effective
and a blade is so much bigger than a bullet, that it has a better chance to rupture an organ or cut an artery, leaving you proper fucked
gun or knife, be afraid indeed

In yoyobek's case, I think a machette could be effective, not because of it's actual combat value, but because of what it looks like to a rapist. Remember, the best victory is the one won with psychology, not violence.

Someone with a large blade in their hand, in a defensive posture, looking like they know what their doing, is going to intimidate a rapist. It doesn't matter if the person knows how to wield a blade or not, so long as the rapist thinks they do.

Also, there has been a huge amount of misinformation about rapists in this thread. Rapists are sadists in nature, not people lacking sex. The rapist gets off to having power over others, which is why they prey on others who have less power. They are cowards, and the likelihood they are going to rush someone with a blade in their hand is slim.

Rapists aren't looking for a fight, they are looking for an easy mark to take advantage of.

Furthermore, most of this talk is useless, as the majority of rapes take place between people that know each other, where people are their most vulnerable.

Finally, it's good living in Nevada. Here you don't even need a permit to carry a pistol on you in a holster. :D

Just for future reference, yoyobek a machette isn't a good self defence weapon because you need room to swing it. If someone is trying to rush you, chances are you won't be able to swing it.

What you need is a (fairly short) stabbing knife and some pepper spray. Not mace, bear mace or CS but pepper spray.

If you're right handed, carry the knife on your right hand side, if you're left handed, carry it on your left. Carry the pepper spray on the opposite side to the knife. Don't carry either on your front or back because noone ever got raped lying on their side.



Yeah machette isnt the best, butI figure if you're carrying something you dont know how to use it's worse than useless.
I cant use a knife for shit. I'd be safer flinging poo.


It's partially intimidation, yeah.
intimidation (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/raveyoyo/chette.jpg)

That, and I wouldnt be swinging it enough force to take off limbs unless absolutely nescessary. Self defence claims only go so far, unfortunately. Also the jagged edge is good for just swinging at people because it's enough to gouge the skin rather than slice it, which can be alot nastier.

I dont carry the machette anymore, because I'm not in that dangerous place anymore. One time there was a riot when the security guard broke some girls nose, and she was just screaming "the foreign guy did it!!", so they all assumed it was the sweet little polish guy I was working with. The security guard ran off and polish guy and I hid in a cupboard till the police came.



I'm not particularly attractive, infact when wearing leather I'm downright ugly. So if someone attemtped to rape me, I'd know they were a special kind of fucked up. I also know if someone were attemtping to rape me, it wouldnt be a spur of the moment thing as someone might do if they saw a tiny pretty petite girl walking alone. If someone takes me on, chances are they're planning to kill me afterwards.


I dunno why, but when I've been walking home from clubs, or even work, late at night, it tends to be muslims or indians that pull up and try to get me to get into their cars.
I dont know if this is because they're just, really desperate, or if they think I look like a fat child prostitute, or what.


It's pretty goddamn sad that women (and men) cant walk the streets at night without having to fear for their bodies. but that's life.


If you're tiny tiny, romaniw, I really reccomend taking up a martial art, or a sport like Kickboxing. Kickboxing is fun :)

Also, ever considered gaining some weight? Not much, just enough so that if you get attacked you'll actually have some weight to throw around.


I'm going to stop typing now. Damn sunnyD and it's evil additives. I swear they put ampthetamines in this shit.

Okay, that is a pretty mean looking machette and while it probably wouldn't be that much good close up I admit it probably would be very effective as a deterrant.

Exactly. It's not a matter of something being effective in a fight, it's about intimidating the rapist enough for him to back down. A rapist is looking for an easy target. You think he's going to want to charge someone who has a machette, just because they wont be good with it? You think he wants to risk getting a machette buried in his collarbone when he could run away and find a different girl in the next hour?

To be honest, I'm sure some rapists would look at the machette and burst out laughing.

It's not that intimidating. Especially when held by an apparent 16 year old fat kid.

Lol, I'm female, 130 pounds, and I could probably take you down. 5'6 106lbs = stick. You'd have zero chance against a man, so get that out of your head.

Weight isnt allways vital. I think it's alot to do with mentality.

I saw my mum fight off my dad ages ago. It was alot like a hamster attacking a bear.


But then, the stereotypcial mindset of the generic rapist, being big and ugly and bear like is often wrong.
You're just as likely to be attacked by a sinewy muslim who embarassingly weighs only a few pounds more than yourself.


but in the lucky dip that is "who will attack you today?" god knows what you'll get.


People in america, I suggest you arm yourself with tazers and pepper spray. People in england, I reccomend you arm yourself to the teeth with whatever you find in the kitchen drawer.

Yoyo, actually a machete is not such a bad choice even if you were a 16 year old fat kid (which youso ain't, you're puurdy 'cept your tits are a bit big for my taste and Guinea pigs do make such good pendants ).

All combat contains a bit of magic, a bit of 'headology', to lapse into Granny Weatherwaxsques.

A machette, even if it looks blunt , just looks so fucking nasty and is every Mau Mau massacre film you ever saw. Same way a straight razor looks far more evil than a knife even if its real hard to kill someone with it.

Personally a girl coming at me with a machete would scare the sweet crap outta me. Simply because the fact she had had it under her trenchcoat means SHE'S A FUCKING 'PATH!!11

I don't know if a machete would be the best choice. He would have to be within arm's reach plus 12-18 inches in order for you to use it (don't think about throwing it, you would never sell self-defense, and if you miss GAME OVER). You would have to be absolutely sure that he was going to rape/attack you in order to draw it, seeing as randomly brandishing machetes at men probably wouldn't go well with the cops.

If you think you can draw a machete and use it before a man can close the distance of your arm plus 12-18 inches, good luck. If he gets the drop on you, which I would imagine how most stranger rape occurs, he would find himself in possession of the ultimate rape tool.

Edit: If you assume the ability to run a 40 yard sprint in under 7 seconds (on the part of the rapist), you would have to identify the threat, draw the machete, and put the guy down in less than a third of a second, provided you see him from at least 6 feet out. That is based on the assumption that he is going to body slam you, and not use his arms, and that there is no point at which he is too close for you to effectively use the machete.

Romain, I just gotta ask.....

After your recent episode with your husband hitting you "harder than you've ever felt", has this humbled you at ALL in regard to your belief that you could handle yourself if ever attacked? I mean, if someone hit you one or two more times with as much force do you REALLY believe you could fight your way out of a rape?

Also, since you admitted to being anorexic....you also have to realize that you do NOT have the strength or energy level of a normal 106 pound female. Just one more thing stacked against you. You really need to rethink the arrogance you have on this whole subject.

In regard to the machete, if someone is going to go that route...may I suggest something even better? The Ghurka Khurki is about the similar size of a machete, but is built with hand to hand combat in mind.

http://m4040.com/Survival/Ghurka/History%20of%20the%20Ghurka%20Kukri.htm

The Ghurkas were some of the most imposing and feared hand to hand combatants in the history of warfare. Part of that is because of that weapon. I'm sure Jack can tell you alot more than I on that note....but suffice it to say that is one badass weapon, although admittedly not very concealable.

Haha, well, silence is the safest bet that defeat in imminent.
I was considering this. I was hit pretty hard, and I really did NOT see it coming, and I was dizzy for at least a few seconds. But if I was in a situation where it was life-or-death, I am sure I would fight back. I'm feeling a lot less confident about my chances of living to age 30 now, thanks to you all.

As far the machet, knife, gun, etc go-- I am being dead serious- how many people carry that shit around while they go out for a cup of coffee? Or to the corner grocery store? And if you DO carry it in your purse, how are you going to take it out in time to hurt someone? Most likely a rapist is going to try to restrain your arms and cover your mouth first. How many people are going to open their purse and pull out a fucking machete in time?? That's what I'm trying to say. Despite the number of weapons you carry, you probably won't be able to use it.

I hope you've snapped out of the 'I can fight' ideaology. Traveling in groups, and screaming bloody murder the second you suspect an attack will be your only defense. Weapons have limited usefulness, your kicks to the balls can be blocked or absorbed by an athletic cup, and the rapist might be faster than you.

Don't travel alone, and realize that no single thing will adequately prepare you.

I just watched 'Miss Congeniality' again. I think if I am ever attacked I'll just SING.

Having sex - 250 cal.
Having sex with someone who doesn't want - 1300 cal.

*wipes coffee off monitor*

As far the machet, knife, gun, etc go-- I am being dead serious- how many people carry that shit around while they go out for a cup of coffee? Or to the corner grocery store?

My dad has a .357 revolver in his pocket whenever he leaves the house. I, not being 21 yet, carry a folding knife.

I would say the main problem with the machette is that it would be impossible to draw.

I think your best bet would be a good folder that you can flick out in a fraction of a second. Id recommend this stanley sport utility knife. It has a 3.5 in blade (along with a box cutter on the back) that can be flicked out with a turn of the wrist and locks. Great for stabbin (which in the clinch is all you really can do). You can keep this in your right pocket at all times and if its the right side down it'd only take a second to be out and ready.

I say a knife because I consider it the only weapon, other than a taser or maybeee a gun, that could easily be used from the clinch. A taser is illegal in most areas. Guns are severely restricted if not banned for open/concealed carry even with a permit in most states.

A 3.5 in blade is legal in almost all areas. Its a utility knife (especially with box cutter) so you have a legit non-combat reason to have it. I think it wouldn't usually hold up in court as self-defense in a knife fight. But Im sure theres sympathy
in an attempted rape defense scenario.

I'm not a very big person, but I'm strong for my size, and sadly I'm confident I wouldn't have very much trouble if I was going to rape a chick.

I'm sorry to say that I don't think many girls would be able to put up much of a fight to the average male.

Oh, and you also get date-rapists, which in that case you're completely fucked

Rape is whack
Crack is ________

It's partially intimidation, yeah.
intimidation (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/raveyoyo/chette.jpg)



HOLY SHIT! RUN, HES GOT SKIM MILK, AND ITS FUCKIN POWDERED!

There have been some studies (at least a couple I've noticed online) that show women who fight back are less likely to be raped. However, women who fight back are also more likely to suffer physical abuse (or worse) outside of the rape. This makes enough sense: A lot of guys think they're all tough and that the girl will just passively take it, and when she struggles, they freak out and run. But the real cold motherfuckers who are going to get that shit come hell or high water will fuck you up if you make them, even if they wouldn't have done it anyway.

Basically, if you want to avoid being raped in an attempted rape situation, you have the right attitude. If you're willing to fight until the guy knocks you out (assuming he's unarmed), there's an excellent chance you can run him off or escape, though it depends in part on circumstances (his size and attitude being most prevalent, and only one of which you can ascertain with ease). A weapon is bad juju if you're an untrained fighter, because no matter what you do, it would take some definite luck to create a situation where he couldn't come right back and stick you or shoot you if he so desired. To fight or scream in the face of a gun or knife, you essentially have to call the would-be rapist's bluff.

In that light, the people who have been suggesting you practice what to do in such a situation are right, and you would be wise to take their advice. Have whatever male friend you use wear a cup so you can take a decent whack at his groin (full power will still hurt, so be careful); better to practice some contact than coming up short. Put yourself in every conceivable position and even some fairly inconceivable ones where someone may attempt to rape you. Do them over and over, and keep in practice- the techniques you work on will do you no good if you get into trouble six months after your last "study session" and you can't remember what to do.

If you have the time/money, actual martial arts classes would be even better. Jiujitsu or aikido, as well as any school where they'll teach you how to deal with weapons, are good choices. But any work you do in the name of protecting yourself will serve you well.

Something always made me think that most rapists are pussies, and wouldn't actually stab/shoot you.