Values of society

Would society still be the same if it had the values of religion but without the 'god bits'?

Personally i think it would since society still has the same ethics and values that are found in religion. I'm looking at this question from a christian perspective but other religions can be involved.

What's your opinion?

Religion takes it's enforced values from the society, not the other way around. Unless you subscribe to the stoning of disobedient children and selling your daughter to slavery bits as God's will of course

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As a theist of very odd views, I'd prefer to get rid of insane soul-stealing morals/ethics rather than the tool the sick judgment loving chimps use to justify their inability to accept life as it is.

What good is it to rid yourself of a flask when you've filled it with poison and already shared your drink with all mankind?

If you want to get rid of god, fine...but I'd be more worried about the mental side effects of holding subjective morals as something to live, die, and run such a large social structure by. Trying to force people with multitudes of moral backgrounds into all buying the idea that one thing is wrong is going to fuck people's heads up...it's bad enough that some will believe the lie, and even worse that some will uncover the truth. Finding out your whole way of life was programmed into you in order to satisfy some sick puppy's Utopian pipedream is something I imagine to be quite unsettling.

I'm probably rambling, so I'll end on this note: Fuck you! RAWRARARARA!

Originally Posted by potential_evil

Would society still be the same if it had the values of religion but without the 'god bits'?

Personally i think it would since society still has the same ethics and values that are found in religion. I'm looking at this question from a christian perspective but other religions can be involved.

What's your opinion?

Atheists and Agnostics don't seem to have a problem with ethics and values*.



*This excludes Nihilists and all others that don't know what path to follow.

^ What he said is very true.

Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, George Washington*, as well as the majority of the other founding fathers were Deists. They believed in religion, but not spirituality. They didnt believe in "magic" or supernatural forces of god, but they did believe in what the prophets said, but in a philosophical context.

Basically they viewed Jesus as a great Philosopher, not the son of god born of a virgin.

Thomas Jefferson even had a special bible made that did not include all the "Magical" parts ofthe bible.


http:../../www.angelfire.com/co/jeffersonbible/default.htm

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There would still be philosophical and ethical writings written that would shape society.

Like Confucianism

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Originally Posted by SkinEatingClown

^ What he said is very true.

Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, George Washington*, as well as the majority of the other founding fathers were Deists. They believed in religion, but not spirituality. They didnt believe in "magic" or supernatural forces of god, but they did believe in what the prophets said, but in a philosophical context.

Basically they viewed Jesus as a great Philosopher, not the son of god born of a virgin.

Thomas Jefferson even had a special bible made that did not include all the "Magical" parts ofthe bible.


http:../../www.angelfire.com/co/jeffersonbible/default.htm



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Unless you and I define religion and spirituality very differently, I think you have them reversed. 0EBFAA6125 "spirit."