problems with Christianity

First before I add my thoughts, I want my fellow totseans to add their own.

Fallicies(sp?) in the bible?
Raping of the pagans?
General behavior of christians, or at least those who claim to be?

Anything, just go for it, I'll add my thoughts after a few posts.

Originally Posted by BlackEagle67

Fallicies(sp?) in the bible?

Fallacies*

What do you mean by fallacies?

Originally Posted by BlackEagle67

General behavior of christians, or at least those who claim to be?

Please no stereotypes.

Also it would have helped your thread so much if you had started with some examples.

[Zman]

speaking of fallacies, saying that behavior of christians proves anything about christianity is like saying the behavior of atheists proves that there IS a God.

The problem with Christianity and Islam is that they say only through their religion will you get to heaven.

Originally Posted by Dream of the iris

The problem with Christianity and Islam is that they say only through their religion will you get to heaven.

This is a HUGE problem.

The Bible claims that unless you have faith that Jesus died on the cross for your sins, you are doomed to hellfire.

How could a god possibly be a a just god,
when he punishes someone who was trying to do the right thing when he refused to believe in a god because he has made his best choice and had come to the conclusion that He didn't exist, or had come to the conclusion that god exists, but the god of another religion and not the Christian god?

Alright some people who ARENT flaming me for asking questions. Along with what xray mentioned, the behaviors of some of the people who claim to be christian are a bit off as well.

I always hear, "You're goin to burn in hell because you dont go to church/dress right"/whatever other nonsense. When they're inside the church they are fucking saints, but the second its over, they lie,cheat,steal,gossip and ram their "beleifs" down everyone elses throats. Not very christian is it?

Recently someone told me "A little religion never killed anyone". HA What about the pagans? Millions were slaughtered simply because they didnt have the same belief system. Even those that were christian were burned at the stake in Salem because the other villagers didnt like the way they acted.

The only nice thing I see that the christians did was put all the holidays on the same days as the pagan's to make it easier to convert them.

Im looking into Odinist Asatru in case anyone's wandering. Any good sites on the subject would be appreciated if anyone would be so kind....I'll give you rep.



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Originally Posted by BlackEagle67

First before I add my thoughts, I want my fellow totseans to add their own.

Fallicies(sp?) in the bible?
Raping of the pagans?
General behavior of christians, or at least those who claim to be?

Anything, just go for it, I'll add my thoughts after a few posts.

A fallacy is a deceptive and illogical notion.

e.g. If you don't worship God you'll go to hell!
This atheist is a murderer because he doesn't accept Jesus!

Raping of pagans - I don't know about that.

Behavior of Christians depends on how fundamentalist they are, along with how they interpret the Bible, how they were raised and they're genes.

[Deoz]

Originally Posted by BlackEagle67

the behaviors of some of the people who claim to be christian are a bit off as well.

I agree.

Originally Posted by BlackEagle67

I always hear, "You're goin to burn in hell because you dont go to church/dress right"/whatever other nonsense

Well this is wrong, whoever told you this doesn't know what they're talking about.

Originally Posted by BlackEagle67

. When they're inside the church they are fucking saints, but the second its over, they lie,cheat,steal,gossip and ram their "beleifs" down everyone elses throats. Not very christian is it?

Nope not Christian at all. This is called being a hypocrite. But to conclude that all Christians are like this is wrong (i.e stereotype) But you're still right this type of behavior is wrong, then they claiming to be Christian becomes questionable.

[Deoz]

Originally Posted by Lord. Better Than You

e.g. If you don't worship God you'll go to hell!

LOL never heard that. But I've heard something like:

If you don't accept Jesus Christ as your savior you'll go to hell!

Sometimes logical fallacies are inevitable I think. Appeal to force only points out that because you will receive some kind of punishment for not accepting some sort of idea does not add any truth value to the idea, but it doesn't take any truth value from it either.

Originally Posted by Deoz

but it doesn't take any truth value from it either.

Yes. it does. As already has been pointed out, there is a contradiction. God can not be just, fair, merciful, etc., and horribly punish those that are trying to believe what's real but have come to the wrong conclusion.

[Deoz]

Originally Posted by xray

Yes. it does. As already has been pointed out, there is a contradiction. God can not be just, fair, merciful, etc., and horribly punish those that are trying to believe what's real but have come to the wrong conclusion.

I wasn't replying to you, so God's justice/mercy or lack thereof wasn't in my mind when I made that post. But that's okay.

I understand what you're saying though.

But isn't God already being unfair? I mean if he was being fair then we'd be getting what we rightly deserve by going to hell when we die.

You know the only thing worse than a hypocritical christian? The athiest who thinks he's so much smarter and better than everyone else.

no sex before marriage