Well I just banned 'Captain Planet' for spamming B&M with crap...anyone with a problem with that can raise it with me.

Anyhow I thought "oh shit I'm going to get shit in my email now" so I quickly altered my profile so it no longer has my email available.

Back under UBB there was one particular piece of shit (1baddude...and his other accounts) who hide their IP address and generally made a pain of themselves. After getting them banned and making fun of them in B&M (which is where the trouble was occuring) I received a whole bunch of homosexual porn site emails. Thank god these were activation emails is all I can say and since they were ignored and deleted it's never happened again.

Anyhow I was just wondering how you put up with it? And what measures you take to attempt to control/curb it from happening.

Well there are only a handful of people who troll AR&R and CB, both forums are small enough that the 2 dozen or so regulars know enough to just ignore them.

Straight out the Congo/Rainbow Dancer/Harlequin Senior used to be a pest until one of his other accounts was banned, then the stopped posting as much. Still a troll but he doesn't post as often.

Straight out the Congo/Rainbow Dancer/Harlequin Senior used to be a pest until one of his other accounts was banned, then the stopped posting as much. Still a troll but he doesn't post as often.

Straight out of the Congo is a true piece of shit. Is there anything you can nail him for? I've never had him post in any of my forums bet he rubs me the wrong way too

And I meant when people take their problem outside of totse. mindh4X0rz went as far as trying to recruit people to piss me off on msn.

I recall Pirate Hippie attempted to have someone banned for something that happened outside of totse. We all thought that went a little far when it happened but I can see where she was coming from...even if I still don't agree with it.

Nobody has ever really messed with me or the forums I moderate.

I tend to just get rid of spam when I see it in HB, rather than bothering to infract. They always stop when they see what has happenned.

I just don't let any of it get to me. Even when my password was hijacked earlier this year. I saw there wasn't shit I could do other than let the admins know what had happened. So after sending an email I just left totse until the situation was under control.

There is totally no point in letting anything on the internet get to you.

Even all of the 'I raped Meta's daughter with a ____' threads and that Brownfinger stuff, the only reason that bugged me was because of the spam. Having some 16 year old virgin ruin my day would be just silly.

Granted had my daughter seen it she would have been upset [what girl her age wouldn't be?]. But I long ago asked her to not come around Totse anymore; once some found out who she was, they just gave her shit. But me? There's no impact that they can have on my real life, so why let it get to me?

On a side note, I've never had emails like TS described, or even the hateful ones like Yoyo got. I do get a lot of Totse related email, but I'd have to say that [so far] it's been about 98% civil and decent *Knocks on wood*.

Straight out of the Congo is a true piece of shit. Is there anything you can nail him for? I've never had him post in any of my forums bet he rubs me the wrong way too

And I meant when people take their problem outside of totse. mindh4X0rz went as far as trying to recruit people to piss me off on msn.

I recall Pirate Hippie attempted to have someone banned for something that happened outside of totse. We all thought that went a little far when it happened but I can see where she was coming from...even if I still don't agree with it.

Well as us mods of AR&R have stated countless times before, Staight out the Congo/Aludin/Alduin/Rainbow_Dancer/Harlequin Senior has numerous multiple accounts, but nothing was ever done. We just sort of gave up one it.

Oh well, I've had a few posters contact me via MSN messager and say some lovely things and I've had Alludin/straight out the congo/ Rainbow Dancer/ Harlequin Senior leave me a comment on my Last.FM page, but I don't think any of those things as being ban worthy, just a but annoying.

Was there more to it?

https://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2032908

More than just the one thread, I mean.

How was that spam? It's in fucking Bitch and Moan, that's where shit like that goes.

You're just going nuts again.

I'm not trying to start an argument, ,but I think you need to take a REAL HARD look at yourself Trousersnake. Because in the last few weeks I would most definitely put you into the category of 'one of those assholes'. You may not have multiple accounts, but you don't need them to be an asshole.

As for the issue you raised, UNFORTUNATELY I cannot find the thread (it looks like M&A has recently been pruned?) anywhere in M&A. The topic was something like "What can be done about trolls with the new software?"

I'll see if I can summarize:
-First of all, there IS an Ignore function. This is useful for REGULARS, but as MODERATORS it is inappropriate for us to use this function. If we can't see the posts of a certain user regularly and he knows this, whats to say he won't get away with posting a link to kiddy porn, or a plot to kill the President of the United States of America or something like that. If USERS are complaining to you about asshole regulars, then let the know about the Ignore function.

-If you want something done about Aludin, good luck. A couple of us have been callinf for him to be banned consistently for MONTHS. And nothing really has been done about it. We tried infracting him every time he posted with another account, but several moderators criticised us for doing THIS. We were told repeateadly simply to "Stop bitching". Or here the worst thing. SOME moderators here (or it could have been a supermod though that would imply it was MLOR and Im not saying that, because I genuinely dont remember who it was) actually said something to the effect of this:

Aludin may be an asshole and a troll, but he doesn't cause any REAL trouble. He's been posting with multiple usernames for a while, so we should ignore him.

-If people are being so bad that they are derailing threads and causing serious problems, then INFRACT them for it.

-Don't let things get to you. A while back people were saying TERRIBLE shit about Metaphysicists daughter. It made me really mad, but a lot of it wasnt breaking any rules.

-Even if we CAN sometime infract or warn a user for just taking things too far in being an asshole, we should resist the temptation to do so, because doing this leads to habits of overmoderating (Which you have already done in the past, so you dont want to give regulars reasons to be callingfor ou to be demodded, and you dont want other mods to have even more reasons to call for you to be demoded, now do you?

Anyway I know not much of that is very encouraging, ut thats basically what we reached from the first thread like this that I posted a while back, so if anything will help I guess thats it.

You should probably be demodded for that.

You need to learn to follow the rules, Trousersnake, particularly number 10:

http://www.totse.com/en/_faq/totse_faq.html#bbs

Users will not be deleted because of content. About the only thing that could get you banned from the system is if you break any of the above rules or if you try to destroy totse.com.

If you can't understand that, you shouldn't be a moderator.

I'm going to take Zok's approach and let him explain himself first, but this looks seriously suspect.

He takes it to the heart when someone says that global warming isn't real.

Wait, B&M?

You cant spam in B&M can you? Unless you're like posting kiddie porn or something like that!

Never mind, I can't believe I just tried to be helpful and supportive to Trousersnake. Jesus christ.. B&M!!

Well I'll definitely add my voice to the 'this looks fucked' side, not that I need to though, as I've been saying it for about a month now it seems.

As for the issue you raised, UNFORTUNATELY I cannot find the thread (it looks like M&A has recently been pruned?) anywhere in M&A. The topic was something like "What can be done about trolls with the new software?"


What is this "pruning" you speak of? (https://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=1988780) :) With the new software, nothing is deleted. It's just that the search function isn't up to snuff.

What is this "pruning" you speak of? (https://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=1988780) :) With the new software, nothing is deleted. It's just that the search function isn't up to snuff.

Holy shit man thank you I really appreciate that. Maybe I just have my software set up wrong I guess?? I only see TWO pages in M&A when I look at it.

Though unfortunately it appears that my thread doesnt really apply to THIS Thread, as it looks like THIS one might just be another fuckup by Trousersnake.

Thank you so much though!

Holy shit man thank you I really appreciate that. Maybe I just have my software set up wrong I guess?? I only see TWO pages in M&A when I look at it.



Oh, I see. You need to go under "display options" and choose to display threads from the beginning. That will show every page.

Ask Meta and Deus about that individual. They all had probelms with him too.

The thread they made was blantant shit, still I thought I'd bite and see how he'd respond. How did he respond? By clearly demonstrating he had no intention about being serious with it...in my opinion. Spam. Hell sambob went off at me for it. What a fuckup...on whos part his or mine. You choose. One rule for me and different for anyone else is fucked. Plain and simple.

Should have I moved it to Green Planet and done to him there what I did? No. You would have stuck your noses into that as well. I love how I've refrained suggesting to you how to better things whilst you are still on my back for things in a forum I moderate.

Zok contacted me already. He told me to 'stop'. I find it a little silly that in order to please a few totse mods I have to stop managing my forums properly. Yeah, I said properly.

No one has contacted me personally like Zok did. You were all much more interested in posted your shit in here getting your support.

And don't say I 'over moderate' if anything I under moderate. As for how you *think* B&M operates read ZOKS own words of wisdom before talking about what you don't know about...it's stickied for you even. I'm sure none of you cowards will question him though.

I understand it, what I also understand is that there is a whole bunch of 'infractions' besides that "rule 10" of the FAQs, and I recall suggesting that the members know what they can get infractions for...and getting shot down for it.

That user wasn't deleted or banned from the system (too bad really I say) he was given a 10 day 'wake up to yourself' period, which got reversed anyhow. I might have to check my rep now I probably have something colourful there now.

It wasn't because it was global warming, yes it is an area I'm familiar with, and that just worked against that user because I picked up on his shit quicker then I might usually.

You just don't listen to me.

And don't say I 'over moderate' if anything I under moderate. As for how you *think* B&M operates read ZOKS own words of wisdom before talking about what you don't know about...it's stickied for you even. I'm sure none of you cowards will question him though.

He said "Nope, the weather is changing. But it has nothing to do with global warming. DUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRR!" and this is what Zok said;

First off "discuss" should NEVER be the entire content of your thread. If you want us to discuss something, you'd better be willing to do it yourself. So if you're pissed about something, don't make a thread with the title "FUCK (whatever)" and content "Discuss" because I will close it and probably give you an infraction. Instead try: "FUCK (whatever)" with content: "This is why I dislike (whatever):"

Okay, in that post he didn't say "discuss". He also just didn't say "FUCK, global warming is so fucking fake." He was just responded to a post of yours' and since you take global warming way too seriously you gave him an infraction for supposedly "spamming", when he clearly did not spam, he just answered your question.

He said "Nope, the weather is changing. But it has nothing to do with global warming. DUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRR!" and this is what Zok said;



Okay, in that post he didn't say "discuss". He also just didn't say "FUCK, global warming is so fucking fake." He was just responded to a post of yours' and since you take global warming way too seriously you gave him an infraction for supposedly "spamming", when he clearly did not spam, he just answered your question.

So you're saying he wanted to talk climate change. Hmm. No I'm not falling for that one either.

To answer my Thread title...I still dunno how to deal with War Lord types. I mean he encourages people like newstar to harass me, denies it even though I had evidence. While I'm addressing you...Do you even lurk in Clean Tech?

You're worthless. Simple. Shut up. Go away.

To answer my Thread title...I still dunno how to deal with War Lord types. I mean he encourages people like newstar to harass me, denies it even though I had evidence. While I'm addressing you...Do you even lurk in Clean Tech?

Okay, I just said "newstar, trousersnake hates you." How is that me approving him to harass you? You and I already had a conversation about this, so I don't know why you are bringing this up again.

And, yes I do lurk GT...I post when I can. You don't want me to mod there? Hmmm, well shit...SHIT, hell Jeff remove me from Clean Tech if trousersnake doesn't want me to mod it anymore. I'll hope then he'll shut the fuck up.

I don't feel like arguing with your dumb ass anymore, so let's leave it at that. Jeff, remove me from Clean Tech.

And, yes I do lurk GT...I post when I can. You don't want me to mod there? Hmmm, well shit...SHIT, hell Jeff remove me from Clean Tech if trousersnake doesn't want me to mod it anymore. I'll hope then he'll shut the fuck up.

haha 'GT'? Yup that's commitment.

Telling newstar that I hate him (how did you come to that conclusion?) was saying to him "you're doing a good job". Your blind in addition to being fucking stupid if you couldn't tell that.

Don't worry, it's ME you're talking to. No one will dare say "TS is right you fucked up! Burn him at the stake!"

Why stop there? ;)

And I can't wait to here stories of you saying how that forum sucks now.

Trousersnake you banned the user in B&M for doing the exact same thing you did in AR&R. Then you insult Dr. Ol Raw for telling another user that you hate him, when not 2 months ago you took a comment Euda said about about user being a annoying and not only posted it in SG, you had an entire thread dedicated to it!

Do you not remember any of this?

Actually, I do remember. In fact! I even said how stupid it was that I get put under a spotlight for doing something whilst a regular gets off easy.

I'm not lying that I did the latter, and Euda said he had told that person multiple times he didn't/doesn't like how he does things...wheras I had never done that to newstar.

See...how situations can be different? Yessss there's a good boy :)

Yeah pretty much - I don't see how you can't understand that. You know I'm right now. Good for you.

Don't let him win man, you shouldn't have to stop modding a forum just because of BS like that. I know it sucks, but think about the good of the forum if you can. Hopefully something will be done about it. Jeff may not have time to be on here every day, but I'm sure he'll take a look at all of these complaints eventually and do whats appropriate.

Oh, I see. You need to go under "display options" and choose to display threads from the beginning. That will show every page.

Yeah I had done that but I think my settings with the software keeps getting reset or SOMETHING like that, not entirely sure. I think there may still be a couple of minor kinks in the software - though for sure Jeff has done a great job getting everything up and running with so few problems in such a short period of time!

Don't let him win man, you shouldn't have to stop modding a forum just because of BS like that.

Oh hi sambob :)

I want totse to 'win'.

Not inactive mods, not ban evaders, not trolls, spammers, etc etc..

Oh hi sambob :)

I want totse to 'win'.

Not inactive mods, not ban evaders, not trolls, spammers, etc etc..

You forgot "Shit mods who are also trolls and spammers"

Actually, I do remember. In fact! I even said how stupid it was that I get put under a spotlight for doing something whilst a regular gets off easy.

I'm not lying that I did the latter, and Euda said he had told that person multiple times he didn't/doesn't like how he does things...wheras I had never done that to newstar.

See...how situations can be different? Yessss there's a good boy :)

Yeah pretty much - I don't see how you can't understand that. You know I'm right now. Good for you.

Your silly-patronizing statements aside, Euda said he didn't want you posting what he said in M&A in the public forums, but of course that was after you'd already posted them.

And the reason you get "put under a spotlight" when you spam a forum, is because you're a fucking mod. We shouldn't have to tell you that posting spam is wrong, that banning users for no reason is bad, or that posting comments said in M&A in the public forums is looked down a upon; it's common sense.

While you ban users for doing the same things you do, we give you the benefit of the doubt and ask that you stop doing it, but you always reply with childish insults and continue to act in the same manner.

You forgot "Shit mods who are also trolls and spammers"

totse would feel empty without your big head pal :) That's why I didn't mention your types.

Go on tell me to "LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!"

Well Trousersnake, if you try to tell me that my threads in GPP are off topic spam, I will say that again.

Your silly-patronizing statements aside, Euda said he didn't want you posting what he said in M&A in the public forums, but of course that was after you'd already posted them.

And the reason you get "put under a spotlight" when you spam a forum, is because you're a fucking mod. We shouldn't have to tell you that posting spam is wrong, that banning users for no reason is bad, or that posting comments said in M&A in the public forums is looked down a upon; it's common sense.

While you ban users for doing the same things you do, we give you the benefit of the doubt and ask that you stop doing it, but you always reply with childish insults and continue to act in the same manner.

So I've done nothing wrong. Thanks captain obvious. You haven't been a mod too long I mean when I say mod to you it should be a grey coloured bold...or should it be grey for the mods that have been here sooooooo long

Although I would (and I'm sure others would too) like a more informed sambob, I'm giving up telling to tell you anything :(

So I've done nothing wrong. Thanks captain obvious. You haven't been a mod too long I mean when I say mod to you it should be a grey coloured bold...or should it be grey for the mods that have been here sooooooo long

Another brilliant deflection from Trousersnake.

Telling newstar that I hate him (how did you come to that conclusion?) was saying to him "you're doing a good job".

You did that each time you rose to his bait. :p

There's no contest when people are laughing at every one of your responses.

You didn't have to post in Captain Planet's thread or rise to the bait; it could easily have been left alone or moved in order to stimulate discussion in the proper forum. It was the wrong choice, but it is your choice to make.

So I've done nothing wrong. Thanks captain obvious. You haven't been a mod too long I mean when I say mod to you it should be a grey coloured bold...or should it be grey for the mods that have been here sooooooo long

Don't even try to pull that bullshit. You have been a moderator for only a few months longer than Jive Talka, and regardless of that, Jive Talka is a VERY good mod. Jive Talka DID make one or two mistakes when he first started out. And guess what? We talked about them, we fixed the problems, and now he is a BETTER moderator for it.

You are BOTH new mods, except Jive Talka is a GOOD new mod.

Don't even try to pull that bullshit. You have been a moderator for only a few months longer than Jive Talka, and regardless of that, Jive Talka is a VERY good mod. Jive Talka DID make one or two mistakes when he first started out. And guess what? We talked about them, we fixed the problems, and now he is a BETTER moderator for it.

You are BOTH new mods, except Jive Talka is a GOOD new mod.

It was more saying how you think you're kind shit of turd island around here cause you've been here for 'sooooooo long' you're a veteran man and I bow to you because you're clearly very good.

Go spam GPP or something man its what good mods do ain't it ;) FUCK OFF!!!

You did that each time you rose to his bait. :p

Did you move SHH's 'Euda is a rep whore' thread to B&M or is it a clone :) Answer honestly, he might need to be told that one thread is enough ;)

Did you move SHH's 'Euda is a rep whore' thread to B&M or is it a clone :) Answer honestly, he might need to be told that one thread is enough ;)

Clone, but I find it funny that there are people who don't realize that it's a joke. :D

SHH lost all his rep though, so it's understandable that he'd try and twist the lulz.

Really though people, this issue has been put to bed by Zok and Trousersnake. There's no reason to beat a dead horse, to use a metaphor that I've always found a bit disturbing.

Clone, but I find it funny that there are people who don't realize that it's a joke. :D

SHH lost all his rep though, so it's understandable that he'd try and twist the lulz.

Really though people, this issue has been put to bed by Zok and Trousersnake. There's no reason to beat a dead horse, to use a metaphor that I've always found a bit disturbing.

Want to infraction him for me? I mean some people don't like me doing it for whatever reason? Don't worry it'll get 'lulz' for me and a lul from TS is like worth a thousand lulz.

I'll let you do it in my forum even. I mean I know I have no problem with people doing what is right in my forums :)

The thread they made was blantant shit, still I thought I'd bite and see how he'd respond. How did he respond? By clearly demonstrating he had no intention about being serious with it...in my opinion. Spam. Hell sambob went off at me for it. What a fuckup...on whos part his or mine. You choose. One rule for me and different for anyone else is fucked. Plain and simple.

And indeed you gave him the "Posted spam or other advertisements. We hate SPAM" infraction, and your administrative note was "spamming."

Let's go over the official definitions we have available for SPAM:

"There's been a few differences of opinion as to how these [infractions] apply, particularly the SPAM rule. SPAM is an advertisement for services, generally unrelated to the forum it's posted in." SOURCE (http://www.totse.com/community/showpost.php?p=8382226&postcount=1)

The traditional definition of SPAM. The user was not advertising.

"Posting the same rant, advertisement, or announcement in multiple forums is moral equivalent of sending SPAM e-mail to people. We hate SPAM." SOURCE (http://www.totse.com/en/_faq/totse_faq.html#bbs)

The user was not advertising (see traditional definition) nor was the content posted in multiple forums.

To clarify, let's look at the converse. This is what SPAM is not:

"However, if I just wanted to fuck someone's daughter, and I posted that in every forum, I'd say that was SPAM, because it doesn't have anything to do with the forum I'm posting in. But if I posted that I wanted to fuck someone's daughter in SG and S&A, it wouldn't be SPAM, I'd just be trolling. Trolling is annoying, but banning it doesn't help." SOURCE (http://www.totse.com/community/showpost.php?p=8390814&postcount=20)

So the user posted some insulting comments on global warming in Bitch and Moan. You'd be hard pressed even to call this trolling as there is no forum more appropriate, but regardless it couldn't possibly fit our definitions of SPAM.

Just admit that you were wrong and stop making yourself look like a fool.

Want to infraction him for me? I mean some people don't like me doing it for whatever reason?

What reason is there to infract him? What excuse even? :p

He will never admit he's wrong. His pattern is this.

He fucks up, someone calls him on it, he refuses to admit he fucks up so he just posts BS argument after BS argument until everyone is so sick of reading his BS and him not admitting he was wrong, that they stop posting in the thread.

And then in the next thread, part of his BS arguments will be refering to the LAST time he fucked up and he never admitted it.

I wonder what he will reply to this post with (if he does, sometimes he just ignores them), its always interesting to see what kind of totally random BS he comes up with.

Well I'm still not convinced - I think circumstances have changed. Users have more freedoms then ever (ask far as I remember) instead of the ban they used to get they get a few days off from posting.

And 'banning doesn't help' may have been the case when the rego was open and they'd come back for their 'revenge' but now I think it does/has the potential to help.

I'd say I was wrong if I considered an action I took to be that.

What reason is there to infract him? What excuse even? :p

He is littering the place with unnescessary shit. Spam, defacing, scamming the totse public out of a worthwhile experience...? :p He is also posting private information...that he is stupid. Hell give him a perma ban cause he has broken multiple rules ;)

TS, I don't think you and I have ever had 'issues' so maybe you'll listen. You were WRONG.

Sorry mate but that's the truth, There is no way you can infract or ban for that thread.

Most of us have been overzealous at some point. Its no biggy. Just reverse the infraction and hopefully he'll take the warning.

Oh, you don't consider them wrong.

Well I consider myself the Queen of Sheba, however, according to everyone else I am just a poor student/teacher in Ohio.

The world does not always go by what you 'consider'.

Zok already took it off, or so he said.

I haven't seen dickface post more shit since being let off so that could tell you a few things. Maybe he stills thinks he is banned, maybe zok stepped in and said something to him, maybe he is in HB with his shit and I haven't seen it because I'm trying to talk to you guys rather then something more productive.

I wasn't the only one that has had problems as I already said. Perhaps some people ar too overzealous in letting off trouble freely.

You...are a teacher?? *losses faith in the world and puts neck on railway track*

/Quotes Blazing Saddles

"I am depressed."

Zok already took it off, or so he said.

I haven't seen dickface post more shit since being let off so that could tell you a few things. Maybe he stills thinks he is banned, maybe zok stepped in and said something to him, maybe he is in HB with his shit and I haven't seen it because I'm trying to talk to you guys rather then something more productive.

I wasn't the only one that has had problems as I already said. Perhaps some people ar too overzealous in letting off trouble freely.

Don't me wrong, I'm not Euda and I don't believe in soft modding (which is no criticism of Euda,as it works for him). I'll never criticise you for slapping down some twat who is ruining other people's enjoyment of this site.

And I admit I've stretched the infraction rules a few times inorder to deal with such people.

But there is a limit and we can't infract just because we are pissed off.

Even if it works.

Don't me wrong, I'm not Euda and I don't believe in soft modding (which is no criticism of Euda,as it works for him). I'll never criticise you for slapping down some twat who is ruining other people's enjoyment of this site.

And I admit I've stretched the infraction rules a few times inorder to deal with such people.

But there is a limit and we can't infract just because we are pissed off.

Even if it works.

Jackketch I understand you're trying to explain this to him like he doesn't get it... but you should know that he DOES get is, as he's done this before. I wouldn't waste my time on him, all you're going to do is get frustrated and cramp up your fingers from typing angry. If you must though, afterwards come by my place and we can crack this 2005 Château Haut-Brion and eat some stilton. I know its young, but 2005 is going to be legendary so why not get an early start eh?

This issue is already done.

http://nefariouslabs.r30.net/Dead%20Horse.jpg

Jackketch I understand you're trying to explain this to him like he doesn't get it... but you should know that he DOES get is, as he's done this before. I wouldn't waste my time on him, all you're going to do is get frustrated and cramp up your fingers from typing angry. If you must though, afterwards come by my place and we can crack this 2005 Château Haut-Brion and eat some stilton. I know its young, but 2005 is going to be legendary so why not get an early start eh?

2 year old cat piss in a bottle is still just cat piss in a bottle. My brother is a 'wine expert' (professionally), so is my boss ('passion' or hobbyist), and I go to a school that offers wine science. Egh wine don't get me started there, or on coffee for that matter as you've probably noticed before.

Jackketch I understand you're trying to explain this to him like he doesn't get it... but you should know that he DOES get is, as he's done this before. I wouldn't waste my time on him, all you're going to do is get frustrated and cramp up your fingers from typing angry. If you must though, afterwards come by my place and we can crack this 2005 Château Haut-Brion and eat some stilton. I know its young, but 2005 is going to be legendary so why not get an early start eh?

Thanks :)

However good wine is wasted on me :(

My personal preference is for that red wine which comes in plastic bottles and doesn't even rank as a 'vin de pays'.

If it has a high alcohol content (13%) and enough tannin to clean my teeth then thats the sort of red wine that jack likes.

But then again, I'd drink Raid® filtered through a handkerchief if I was desperate.

Every single mod who's posted in this thread has said you've made the wrong decision, and Zok (who's not just a 'mod you have to please', he's a super-mod and one of the people who runs this whole site) himself has told you that your actions are out of line.

The problem's not with you making a mistake, it's with you refusing to acknowledge it. It's not like it's the first time people have had a problem with the way you mod and it's clearly not sinking in.

Okay...I acknowledge you think I made a mistake...

The way I mod hmmm

No. Everything besides banning mindh4X0rz for scripting (but I didn't know?? I suspected it and was right. ding ding ding) and Captain planet I could have done as a regular so don't try to bring this into it. The little Euda thing...perhaps not but it could have been say an email I relayed instead.

So yeah I'm a mod that you disagree with, not a bad mod. I could say sambob is a bad mod because he likes old games and finds it fun to make it known in the community, I could say Jive Talka is for closing my thread only after something I said in it and not after everything else, I could say Euda, MS and yourself are no good for letting mindh4X0rz off, I could go on.

The difference is I get the crap piled on. I might just add before the script attacks, before I displayed my good judgement in fucking of mindh4X0rz I don't think any of you would have been saying shit to me, or about me like cowards.

Anyhow I'd like to go back to before this nasty little business but I don't think you people could do it. You need someone to 'have it over' and I dunno if I could resist pointing out everytime you fuck up.

How do I deal with it?

I have to put my moderator status aside,big time.
As much as I despise people who say shit like "go fuck urself u stupid faggot ur a fuken fag go die in a fag parade u fag" there's nothing, absolutely nothing you can, or should do to this poster from a moderators perspective.


From a posters perspective, flame and mock him all you want. :)

I've let people get to me in the past.
One of the reasons I no longer want to mod SG is because of the sheer bulk of mail I got full of hatred. Not from SGers, oddly enough.


The easiest way to deal with people who are trying to provoke you or upset you is to ignore them. I dont mean put them on ignore, but simply skim their posts and threads. All you can do is advise other posters to skip that posters posts also.


Course, at times you're going to go for the bait they set, but remember when you do retaliate, do it as a poster not a moderator.

Okay...I acknowledge you think I made a mistake...

The way I mod hmmm

No. Everything besides banning mindh4X0rz for scripting (but I didn't know?? I suspected it and was right. ding ding ding) and Captain planet I could have done as a regular so don't try to bring this into it. The little Euda thing...perhaps not but it could have been say an email I relayed instead.

So yeah I'm a mod that you disagree with, not a bad mod. I could say sambob is a bad mod because he likes old games and finds it fun to make it known in the community, I could say Jive Talka is for closing my thread only after something I said in it and not after everything else, I could say Euda, MS and yourself are no good for letting mindh4X0rz off, I could go on.

The difference is I get the crap piled on. I might just add before the script attacks, before I displayed my good judgement in fucking of mindh4X0rz I don't think any of you would have been saying shit to me, or about me like cowards.

Anyhow I'd like to go back to before this nasty little business but I don't think you people could do it. You need someone to 'have it over' and I dunno if I could resist pointing out everytime you fuck up.

No, you're a bad mod. The reason you get piled on is because you're a shitty mod, and you're one of those assholes that you described in your first post.

You didn't display good judgement with mindhaxorz, you just got lucky. You had no idea he was a scripter when you banned him, and if you did then you kept it to yourself, you just were lucky that he was.

Of course it won't go back to the way it was. You consistently reveal yourself to be a shitty mod, and this isn't the first or second time you've done so.

Can you admit you've made a mistake? If you do, I'll stop owning you in The Simpsons thread as a reward. It'll be a good first step for you to take.

No, you're a bad mod. The reason you get piled on is because you're a shitty mod, and you're one of those assholes that you described in your first post.

You didn't display good judgement with mindhaxorz, you just got lucky. You had no idea he was a scripter when you banned him, and if you did then you kept it to yourself, you just were lucky that he was.

Of course it won't go back to the way it was. You consistently reveal yourself to be a shitty mod, and this isn't the first or second time you've done so.

Can you admit you've made a mistake? If you do, I'll stop owning you in The Simpsons thread as a reward. It'll be a good first step for you to take.

How am I a bad mod? I banned a scripter. Yeah I shouldn't have done that So why is he still on the boards again?

nappy you're a piece of shit, look in GP and CT...hell even B&M and you'll see how 'shit' I am. Look in yours and you'll see an anime thread in the wrong forum with you arguing the fact because I happened to be the one that pointed it out.

sambob self appoints himself to forums to sticky the shit he sprooks (sp) about cigars. Who is really the bad mods around here?

sambob always gets dragged into this, I'd feel sorry for him if he didn't do it to me. Don't get me started on his GPP spree ;)

Oh and as for the Simpsons movie. I don't care what you or anyone thinks, if a long time viewer (me) doesn't like it they failed. Got it? I may as well add all my friends (I've got plenty thank you, don't kid yourself) aren't the least bit interested. I don't care about them but they have failed them too.

How am I a bad mod? I banned a scripter. Yeah I shouldn't have done that So why is he still on the boards again?

nappy you're a piece of shit, look in GP and CT...hell even B&M and you'll see how 'shit' I am. Look in yours and you'll see an anime thread in the wrong forum with you arguing the fact because I happened to be the one that pointed it out.

sambob self appoints himself to forums to sticky the shit he sprooks (sp) about cigars. Who is really the bad mods around here?

sambob always gets dragged into this, I'd feel sorry for him if he didn't do it to me. Don't get me started on his GPP spree ;)

Oh and as for the Simpsons movie. I don't care what you or anyone thinks, if a long time viewer (me) doesn't like it they failed. Got it? I may as well add all my friends (I've got plenty thank you, don't kid yourself) aren't the least bit interested. I don't care about them but they have failed them too.

See, you can't even stick to the fucking subject. Whenever I challenge you over anything remotely seriously, you bring up other shit.

You can stop saying you banned a scripter.

I'll say this for the last time. YOU DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS A SCRIPTER WHEN YOU BANNED HIM YOU DUMB FUCK. If it was possible for me to call you on the phone so I could say that slowly to you, I would. You really need to get that fact through your dense skull. Stop lauding that as something good you've done, because it only proves everyone in this thread's point.

Secondly, EVERY mod that has posted in this thread has said you're wrong. Can you admit you're wrong? Please answer this question.

See, you can't even stick to the fucking subject. Whenever I challenge you over anything remotely seriously, you bring up other shit.

You can stop saying you banned a scripter.

I'll say this for the last time. YOU DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS A SCRIPTER WHEN YOU BANNED HIM YOU DUMB FUCK. If it was possible for me to call you on the phone so I could say that slowly to you, I would. You really need to get that fact through your dense skull. Stop lauding that as something good you've done, because it only proves everyone in this thread's point.

Secondly, EVERY mod that has posted in this thread has said you're wrong. Can you admit you're wrong? Please answer this question.

I can admit it when I'm wrong ;)
Now you answer me this...is there something wrong wih your CAPS LOCK??

It was perfection on my part, banning a guy that thought he got away with it (kinda did :( in the end )

I didn't see (read) your 'challenge'...you challenge is tell me if you can admit you're wrong?

And not every mod has said it, yoyo didn't, I don't think meta did. Stop twisting things to suit yourself you weak piece of shit.

So yeah I'm a mod that you disagree with, not a bad mod. I could say sambob is a bad mod because he likes old games and finds it fun to make it known in the community, I could say Jive Talka is for closing my thread only after something I said in it and not after everything else, I could say Euda, MS and yourself are no good for letting mindh4X0rz off, I could go on.


I closed your thread after you admitted that you only created it to get people to flame each other. We brought this is in here and your response was to stomp your feet, act like a child, and spout out nonsensical ramblings that had nothing to with the topic; a barbarian in the truest sense of the word.

You're not a victim, just a terrible mod.

I closed your thread after you admitted that you only created it to get people to flame each other. We brought this is in here and your response was to stomp your feet, act like a child, and spout out nonsensical ramblings that had nothing to with the topic; a barbarian in the truest sense of the word.

You're not a victim, just a terrible mod.

You're a unnescessary mod contributing to the "omg 89 mods?!?"

Don't be angry or hurt it's just how it is, and I'm the only person willing to say it

Read Zoks thread (suggestions) re: Why a mod gets selected. Then look at your situation, chosen for a forum already well moderated.

Oh and it was a legit thread. You fucked up. And sambob made a unnescessary post in here about it instead of emailing me if he thought it was such a big deal.

I can admit it when I'm wrong ;)
Now you answer me this...is there something wrong wih your CAPS LOCK??

It was perfection on my part, banning a guy that thought he got away with it (kinda did :( in the end )

I didn't see (read) your 'challenge'...you challenge is tell me if you can admit you're wrong?

And not every mod has said it, yoyo didn't, I don't think meta did. Stop twisting things to suit yourself you weak piece of shit.

So say it then. You obviously weren't right in this instance. Just admit you're wrong you insecure dumbass.

God you're pathetic.

So say it then. You obviously weren't right in this instance. Just admit you're wrong you insecure dumbass.

God you're pathetic.

Aren't I too *proud* to do it? Well that's not my situation either but I think it's what you meant...or should have meant anyhow.

Moved the anime thread yet? ...hmm it's different I suppose. I mean because I'm right here and you were wrong there.

You're the pathetic one.

Aren't I too *proud* to do it? Well that's not my situation either but I think it's what you meant...or should have meant anyhow.

Moved the anime thread yet? ...hmm it's different I suppose. I mean because I'm right here and you were wrong there.

You're the pathetic one.

Again, changing the subject...

Are you saying Zok was wrong in reversing what you did? Yoyo and Meta, while not saying you were wrong, didn't exactly come to your defense either, so I don't see what that proves other than maybe indifference on their part.

Again, changing the subject...

Are you saying Zok was wrong in reversing what you did? Yoyo and Meta, while not saying you were wrong, didn't exactly come to your defense either, so I don't see what that proves other than maybe indifference on their part.

It's not changing the subject I address you then post a home truth about you.

Ask Zok how I felt about it...why are you sticking your nose in our business?

yoyo and meta eh? That's right they didn't say anything about me, so why did you say they did. Oh that's right you need to resort to lying to get your way and believe your own shit.

It's not changing the subject I address you then post a home truth about you.

Ask Zok how I felt about it...why are you sticking your nose in our business?

yoyo and meta eh? That's right they didn't say anything about me, so why did you say they did. Oh that's right you need to resort to lying to get your way and believe your own shit.

Did you read that thread after I deleted your spam from it? It actually turned into a good discussion. Strange how that happens when you stop being part of the thread...

How did Zok feel about it? He obviously didn't think you were correct now did he?

Fine, every mod except two thinks you're wrong. Now address my previous question you dolt.

Did you read that thread after I deleted your spam from it? It actually turned into a good discussion. Strange how that happens when you stop being part of the thread...

How did Zok feel about it? He obviously didn't think you were correct now did he?

Fine, every mod except two thinks you're wrong. Now address my previous question you dolt.

generic napoleon_complex quote relevant to him: "changing the subject"

Well if you looked you'd have seen that I said

"Ask Zok how I felt about it...why are you sticking your nose in our business?"

Fine, every mod except two thinks you're wrong.

Wrong again. Every mod besides 2 (maybe more I'm not sure of this figure either) that have POSTED IN THIS THREAD THINK that way...yes.

Just because they think it doesn't make them right and all those mods don't make up everyone, and most of those mods are grudge holding morons anyhow so they don't really count.

Again, twisting things you dumb fuck. Every mod indeed. Correct yourself just like before loser.

Is this seriously what your defense is becoming?

Is this how you're going to defend all your actions in the future?

Let's go back to the original issue.

Explain why that post was spam. Better yet, go back and address jebuonag's post where he gave you the definitions of spam.

Let's all try and act like adults for once.

Haha look, a kid wanting to be treated like an adult.

I've already done all that. Do your research in this thread then fuck off, please don't post again in my thread. It's all been said and done, no one cares you've come in late not knowing what's going on as usual. Seen The Big Lebowski? Good. You're Donnie. Like lost child coming into a story. Shut the fuck up.

Trousersnake, you never addressed jebuonag's post. I think now would be a good time to do so.

Edit: Here's a link incase you have difficulty finding it,

http://www.totse.com/community/showpost.php?p=8658703&postcount=44

Great. Everyone has gone off to have a nap/get coffee before this poo throwing event starts up again.


This thread was clearly made to cause a flame war with specific people, as all the posts in this thread that attempt to stay on topic, or give an opinion in regards to the thread title, have been ignored.


It's a bit unhappy making, really.

Don't try to bring me up in defending yourself from your mistakes.

My posting perfectly good legitimate threads in GPP has nothing to do with you fucking up.

My starting a thread in OI to discuss cigars (which is a frequently used thread that people come to with questions), so that people dont have to start new threads every day, has nothing to do with you fucking up.

Deal with your fucking problems child.

Covering up your ears and saying "I can't hear you!" is what you're effectively doing, and its not working.

Don't try to bring me up in defending yourself from your mistakes.

My posting perfectly good legitimate threads in GPP has nothing to do with you fucking up.


You're full of shit, I've said it once and I'm saying again now.

I made a thread in &R&R about what I considered to be a female domination of the charts these days and had all these <doesn't say faggots> including yourself trolling it. I then got fed up expecting as much and hence my post.

As for your little GPP episode you had a bout of the ADD or something making a old games thread, that wasn't enough "oh wow Myst!" ..."Oh wow Aladdin" I kind of left GPP now maybe because you stunk it up, perhaps for other reasons.

Either way your stupid myst and aladdin threads could have gone in your first crappy thread...or not...it could have, maybe, been considered off topic but whatever. Your only defense to this is that the mods didn't close it and that you consider them to be 'legimate'. Pish posh what a load of crap, you weren't getting your retro fix and attention so you made them, big deal.

And to yoyobek this wasn't made to start a fight it was made in attempts to get away from them in banned members. No one would have known of this (besides maybe the big dad that the HB mods are) yet when it's put undertheir noses they'll have a bitch about it. They did the same to bangbang the other day criticising how she runs one of her forums.

It's funny how they'll say someone like me is 'over modding' by eliminating one member and yet stick their beaks into everyone elses business and not see that it is them that are the shit ones. But sambob has been here sooooooooo long, like 2000 I mean wowwwwwww. I mean I can't remember 2000 but I wish I could because then I'd be like sambob, but 2000 games aren't old skool!

http://www.garmentdistrict.com/store/popculture/southpark/collectibles/pins_respect.jpg

Yo' Euda I locked SHHs thread and repped him accordingly. He might feel inclined to retaliate. You know this

:)

Trousersnake:

You seem to bring up sambob's posts in GPP a lot. sambob and I have a rather 'colorful' history: that is, for years we were at each others' throats and I'm glad to say that we can be (mostly) civilized on the boards, despite our past differences.

This aside, sambob's threads were completely welcome; I must say that I'm glad you don't moderate GPP because you seem to have trouble telling a good thread from a bad thread. The forum is there to discuss video games and people are welcome to make as many threads (within reason) as they'd like. Yes, three or four is within reason.

That being said, I'll request that you stop bringing up this point; you don't moderate GPP and with a quick glance at your condemnation of good retro gaming threads, you lack the ability or understanding to mod GPP. I suspect that you'll disagree, but that's exactly why you don't mod GPP, nor will you ever.

I hope I've made this point clear; we're all tired of hearing about it.

What have you got to do with it? I mean aren't you just one of those "please give me a extra forum" people Zok was talking about?

And why would I want to mod a forum that I only know a small percentage about? Chill out I'm not trying to steal your unnescessary postition there.

'We're' sick of it? Well I dunno who you lot are but I know I'm sick of hearing I'm a 'bad' or 'terrible' mod for making a thread in &R&R and until the head wank leading that stupid shit shuts up I'll be bringing the GPP crap up everytime just to remind him what a fuckup he is.

http://www.totse.com/community/showpost.php?p=8658703&postcount=44

Just in case you didn't see it the first time around.

Just ignore it.

Just in case you didn't see it the first time around.

God shut up. I addressed it right afterwards so piss off you little clown.

God shut up. I addressed it right afterwards so piss off you little clown.

No you didn't. You can address it now though.

What have you got to do with it? I mean aren't you just one of those "please give me a extra forum" people Zok was talking about?

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Not really (and remember i am sooo not a member of the toraton fan club). Infact he asked to have a forum taken away from him recently. A forum he was , I should add, more than qualified to mod (his knowledge of linux and code is recognised even by his detractors, myself included).

Not really (and remember i am sooo not a member of the toraton fan club). Infact he asked to have a forum taken away from him recently. A forum he was , I should add, more than qualified to mod (his knowledge of linux and code is recognised even by his detractors, myself included).

He asked to mod a forum that didn't need an extra mod /case closed

I don't care he dropped a forum he didn't want. That doesn't matter in the slightest. He abused his powers there and made himself a royal pain in the ass from what I saw of the overflow.

And yet he makes posts saying I should be demodded for what I did yesterday. This guy is a genius

No you didn't. You can address it now though.

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I understand it, what I also understand is that there is a whole bunch of 'infractions' besides that "rule 10" of the FAQs, and I recall suggesting that the members know what they can get infractions for...and getting shot down for it.

That user wasn't deleted or banned from the system (too bad really I say) he was given a 10 day 'wake up to yourself' period, which got reversed anyhow. I might have to check my rep now I probably have something colourful there now.

It wasn't because it was global warming, yes it is an area I'm familiar with, and that just worked against that user because I picked up on his shit quicker then I might usually.

You just don't listen to me.

Unless you were trying to make a joke out Iof my last bit there this should prove to everyone else what a moron you are, I've learnt nothing of it I always knew.

You can go away now like I told you before.

No where in that post do you explain how the infracted post was spam.

Please elaborate(don't feel afraid to write a lot).

Okay. "Ask Zok" if it's really that concerning to you...

Hell there's probably rationale for it posted a dozen times in here if you look.

I don't see it. Can you point out the dozen posts that your rationale is in?

Couldn't you just type a paragraph explaining why a thread bitching about Global Warming is spam when it's in B&M?

He abused his powers there and made himself a royal pain in the ass from what I saw of the overflow.

Yes he did.

But (and when I find myself defending mods like him I worry) for fairness sake I should point out that no matter how much I genuinely like, admire and respect Biopsy I sure as hell wouldn't want to co-mod a forum with him.

Thats 6ft + of crystal meth fueled red neck psychopath with the linux knowledge to back it up with some for worst people skills I've ever met on totse and an intolerance for idiots that makes me look like Mother Teresa.

that is, for years we were at each others' throats and I'm glad to say that we can be (mostly) civilized on the boards, despite our past differences.

Oh man I'd almost forgotten about that. No, I'm serious. Oh well!

And Trousersnake, even if Toraton is ONE MOD TOO MANY in GPP, what does that have to do with ANYTHING? His opinion is still more than valid as he does a good job moderating these days, yes, even in GPP he's done a fine job as far as I can tell. So stop trying to discredit your detractors with bullshit offtopic responses.

Oh man I'd almost forgotten about that. No, I'm serious. Oh well!

And Trousersnake, even if Toraton is ONE MOD TOO MANY in GPP, what does that have to do with ANYTHING? His opinion is still more than valid as he does a good job moderating these days, yes, even in GPP he's done a fine job as far as I can tell. So stop trying to discredit your detractors with bullshit offtopic responses.

More valid...pfft yeah right. And good job bringing the mod forum drama to the regulars . DEMOD SAMBOBBBBB!

I mean just because you made up a whole bunch of shit about piracy I questioned you about doesn't mean I'm having a go at you from here.

You're nothing but a fucking moron man. I mean you make a silly claim piracy was something more than it is now and affected companies worse then went on a tangent about how companies could be small? You're point?

Piracy hit them hard? Do you really consider things to be different now? You're a full blown idiot. CDongratulations on that one. Wow this got off topic. We can all thank your stupidity for that one.

You're a worthless sack of shit you know sambob?

More valid...pfft yeah right. And good job bringing the mod forum drama to the regulars . DEMOD SAMBOBBBBB!

I mean just because you made up a whole bunch of shit about piracy I questioned you about doesn't mean I'm having a go at you from here.

You're nothing but a fucking moron man. I mean you make a silly claim piracy was something more than it is now and affected companies worse then went on a tangent about how companies could be small? You're point?

Piracy hit them hard? Do you really consider things to be different now? You're a full blown idiot. CDongratulations on that one. Wow this got off topic. We can all thank your stupidity for that one.

You're a worthless sack of shit you know sambob?

Looks like you're still TRYING to take things off topic just like you always do when people criticise you.

https://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?p=8663286

This is the thread in question people, nothing wrong there, as usual. You cannot seriously be trying to talk about that in THIS thread. If yo uare I will just point out the obvious fact that I never said the things you are saying I said. I mentioned something that DID happen, many years ago, to SOME companies, so SHUT THE FUCK UP about it, especially in THIS thread.

@jackketch:

Aside from Euda and Zok, I don't think anyone is in the toraton-fan-club. And they probably just tolerate me ;)

@Trousersnake:

I'm not going to discuss my modship with you, I'm just telling you that your GPP argument is invalid.

toraton-fan-club.

http://www.petafoo.com/files/images/santa-bunny.jpg

Man yesterday I saw this tiny little cat walking down the street with a bunny in its mouth dragging it around.

....actually theres more to that story but it gets a little freaky just wanted to share that first part though, really upset me.

He asked to mod a forum that didn't need an extra mod /case closed



The hell are you talking about?
At the time, I was the only active mod of GPP, and I desperately needed help.
As far as I can see, Toraton is a knight in shining armour. He may or may not be a dick at times... but he's in no way unncesscessary.