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Old 2007-07-15, 03:27
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It being summer, and me wanting to be a creative writing major and being a avid drug user, I was suprised the other day when I figured the two might go together. I recently started reading Hunter S Thompson, who as most of you probably know, was a awsome writer who wrote about his experiences on acid, mescaline, etc.

I'm thinking of trying to do that kind of style, not imitate it, but branch from it, and was wondering if any of you have experience with writing while intoxicated. A idea I thought of would be to use a tape recorder to capture whatever thought pops up in my head, and type it later, and string it together, to prevent the buzzkill of sitting down and going on a computer during a trip.

Good idea? Experiences? What kind of drugs would be most interesting to record my thoughts on?
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Old 2007-07-15, 03:31
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What I do is I write my poems or short stories while high, but then I go back and revise them when I'm sober.
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Old 2007-07-15, 03:33
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I think Rizzo used to do a bit of this, if I recall correctly.

I've heard of people using tape recorders for trips. So I guess it would work. I don't see why not.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

And as for drugs to write on. Well, I remember reading a poem this year written by some guy while he was on opium. Personally, I'd start with marijuana and go from there.
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Old 2007-07-15, 03:36
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I recently started reading Hunter S Thompson, who as most of you probably know, was a awsome writer who wrote about his experiences on acid, mescaline, etc.
I remember his account of being on mescaline for the first time. Was a great read. Songs Of The Doomed, I think...

Also, Great Shark Hunt when he decides they can't land in Texas with their current stash from their flight from Mexico, so him and a friend eat a bunch of MDA, LSD and Seconal on the plane then he tries stuffing like 10 spansules of speed into the tongues of his shoes.
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Old 2007-07-15, 03:41
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drugs don't really affect my artistic side. i have always been into playing guitar, writing, drawing etc and when i get high nothing changes except for my focus (which increases).

edit- as for drugs that make writing better, in my personal experience i have found opium, oxy (any opiate, alcohol in small doses, coke and amphetamine to all help a lot.
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Old 2007-07-15, 03:47
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Pot is always good for free thinking. Acid too.

I have a microrecorder I use to keep track of ideas.

Just don't try to record music on acid. I tried it once and spent 6 hours trying to mix it to no avail.
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Old 2007-07-15, 03:52
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Cool responses guys. I have some DXM, a eigth of some good weed, and a little jack daniels...I plan on recording tonight on these. starting small and hopefully working up to some psychs maybe if I like the way this stuff turns out. If any of you guys want, I'll post the transcript later tonight of what I come up with...
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Old 2007-07-15, 03:53
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Cool responses guys. I have some DXM, a eigth of some good weed, and a little jack daniels...I plan on recording tonight on these. starting small and hopefully working up to some psychs maybe if I like the way this stuff turns out. If any of you guys want, I'll post the transcript later tonight of what I come up with...
myspace.com/thencomestheembrace

recorded on opium, oxycotin, a small amount of cocaine and bong hits.. hence why i got so impatient and made it an mp3 without mixing it properly.
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Old 2007-07-15, 04:10
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hunter thompson did kill himself right?
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Old 2007-07-15, 04:17
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Yes, I believe he shot himself when he was old
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Old 2007-07-15, 04:35
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Twelve days ago a man walked up to me and said, "Sir, do you know where you are?" I boasted, "Of course I do! Do I look like a bumbling fool?"

Truthfully, I was lost, but I could not let the man knew that. If he knew that then I would die.

He seemed to sense something was wrong, but I quickly dispatched of him by blowing sand in his eyes. The natives of this strange town are frightened easily.

I sat down at a bench, took out a notebook, and spewed vomit all over it. I quickly laminated the bunch through a process I learned while stuck in the North Pole. A gruesome sight, to be sure.

So no, I don't think drugs are very good for creative writing.

i really like absurdity writing i just can't find enough of it though its a shame. any way you should check out justin curfman hes an underground writer/video maker. he writes in this style...simply mind blowing i promise. anyway here is my contibution...

A group sits at a picnic table made entirely out of meat. It is hot and they are all hungry. As they sit in hunger the table starts to cook. They start to salivate and soon after they die of starvation. They were all vegans. They become a new layer to the table.
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Old 2007-07-15, 04:49
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the few times i took creative writing like classes, happened to coinside with periods of poly-drug use in my life, which therefore influenced my writing to a degree...


in which i got A's, and wrote a cool thing about kicking dope sick as shit, a year after the fact, high as shit on dope! haha
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Old 2007-07-15, 05:04
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Yes, I believe he shot himself when he was old
In 2005 for what some people believe to have been chronic pain issues; or just the fact he felt he got everything he could/wanted to out of life.
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Old 2007-07-15, 05:09
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these were my feelings on dxm

see the colors swirling past
the endless motion, different tracks
splitting time and splitting hairs
i am no longer self aware
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Old 2007-07-15, 06:15
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Adderall for length.

Last year I had English first period and before school I'd pop a few addys.

I'm not the best writer...but I remember on multiple occasions writing A+ papers on adderall and looking back wondering how the fuck I did that. I also remember writing a page and a half for a simple question that I could have answered in a paragraph or two.

Other than that...I don't really know.
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Old 2007-07-15, 06:19
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Snort some dialudid. You'll become a class writer. I did it before state testing and wrote a fucking novel for a science essay thing.

Plus I've written some songs while nodding out. It's pretty cool
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Old 2007-07-15, 14:38
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drugs/alcohol only make it seem like writing will be easy. your shit ass ideas will be the same sober and high.
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Old 2007-07-15, 14:56
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drugs/alcohol only make it seem like writing will be easy. your shit ass ideas will be the same sober and high.
I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. Your ideas make sense to you when you're high, but when you're sober, they are non-sensical, crazy-talk.

Although I usually do think my ideas developed while high are interesting and useful to the sober world. When I'm sober.
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Old 2007-07-15, 16:41
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when i was really baked i wrote a story about a drug dealer whose brother was killed and took over the family business in san diego
great read
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yeah but drugs and creative writing are a great mix
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Old 2007-07-15, 17:01
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I had a ritual a couple months ago when i'd go for a few smokes on this bench near my house then go home and write.

Got a couple chapters done, but i've stopped now because i've transcribed everything neccesary from that particular high.

My plan is to go on a mission or something, just pack my bag with supplies and cross the country documenting everything then transcribing it at a later date - In a sober mind.

Want to get some psychs for that, and various uppers as well. Alcohol doesn't help with my creativity in the slightest and weed knocks me out
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Old 2007-07-15, 19:51
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Finally, someone who thinks like I do!
I prefer drinking and then smoking marijuana. About maybe 3-4 shots of rum/coke, and a fat j. I, at least, am known to write... interesting... things while drunk. I apparently made some kind of "revelations" about humankind, time, sciences, etc. while intoxicated. Don't know why or how but I seem to write better, syntactically and gramatically and all when intoxicated. It just seems to give me some kind of motivation. If you don't mind, can you send me a couple of things that you write? I always enjoy reading other people's work and especially if you're going to take after Thompson I'd love to read some of your stuff. You can message me/reply to this if you want to read some of mine.

Have a good time man. You're destined for fame.
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Old 2007-07-15, 21:25
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556, both those tracks are awsome, your really talented...I play guitar as well, if only we could jam! I get really into acoustic shit when I blaze, but you kind of combined a dark but upbeat distorted feeling.
thanks man, those are pretty good examples of the type of music i play, but i also play a lot of acoustic chord-oriented shit as well. you got an aim addy or anything? e-mail your aim at regroupstrategize@hotmail.com
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Old 2007-07-15, 21:25
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hunter thompson did kill himself right?
shotgun to the face.

and his suicide note was baller as fuck.
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Old 2007-07-15, 23:15
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Cordova, post some of your stuff- I dont really have anything solid yet to add as this is semi uncharted territory for me..

556, I think i have that little aim guy on my totse profile, but I'll email you it incase I'm wrong
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Old 2007-07-15, 23:21
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And as for drugs to write on. Well, I remember reading a poem this year written by some guy while he was on opium. Personally, I'd start with marijuana and go from there.
Kubla Khan by Coleridge:

http://etext.virginia.edu/stc/Coleri...ubla_Khan.html

It doesn't make much sense but it sure is nice to read.
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Old 2007-07-16, 00:29
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shotgun to the face.

and his suicide note was baller as fuck.
Sorry but I can't help but wonder if you're joking or just misinformed because he shot himself with a handgun.
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Old 2007-07-16, 00:35
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sometimes when im spun or doped out ill smoke a some bud and start drawing, writing poems, songs, and stories.

its fun to write when im tripping to but sometimes it doesnt come out real clear and it takes a little deciphering


lol, hunter s thompsons like one of my idols by the way. i consider myself to be a lot like him actually, and i've had people tell me that i am

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Old 2007-07-16, 01:44
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Fuck yeah, drugs are great for creative writing. Personally I like Uppers, E, or a combination.

I find combining lower doses of uppers with hallucinogens such as acid help[s the tripped out thoughts flow through easier. Plus uppers are just great for me anyway since I have symptoms of ADD and they give me the focus I need.
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Old 2008-09-15, 06:53
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Kubla Khan by Coleridge:

http://etext.virginia.edu/stc/Coleri...ubla_Khan.html

It doesn't make much sense but it sure is nice to read.
It's abstractly about the sublimality of sex. You have to analyze poems for them to make sense.
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