is nitro cellulose sensitive to small arms fire?

I was thinking about filling clay pigeons with NC lacquer and letting them harden. then shooting it to see if it explodes. do you think it would work?

No.

NC is insensitive as hell.

Yeah you'd want something sensitive to percussion, like KClO4

KClO4 is an oxidizer...

I don't know how the clay disks are launched, but almost anything I can think of that you could mould into targets would probably prematurely ignite as they are being launched.

Some hot lead/steel might get it to ignite, but I don't know how hot the shot still is upon impact.

Apply the scientific method!

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I think there's like a spring loaded arm that flings 'em. Or something like that.

my nc laqure is 40% NG, becasue its made of doubble base shot gun powder.

If it doesn't detonate inside a shotgun I don't think shooting it will.

No your not going to get NC to blow up. I used a 3gram AP cap and didn't even get the shit to blow up so no a bullet is not going to magically make your NC explode. As far as the KClO4 that guys a fucking moron. If you want to make something explode when you shoot it you'd have to use a bit of primary. Which actually sounds pretty fucking cool and I might just try to make some AP for this.

For clay pigons from what ive seen that you use to launch em theres a few ways theres automatic launcher machines or things that you hold and it flings it out using your own strength. Either way im sure it wouldn't cause a premature explosion as the discs are very fragile so if there was any jarring it might break the disks its a pretty smooth launch. Theres actual stuff you can buy to shoot to blow up I forget what its called but its pretty bad ass shit.


You should not be trying to shoot explosives because from the few posts ive seen from you, you're not that knowledgeable on them and need more experince before fucking around with enough primary to make this even worth it as it'd probably take 5-10grams if not more to make a decent explosion on impact plus it'd have to be big enough of a target to hit.

AN/AL is sensitive to rifle fire, if I mixed it up with some nc laqure do you think I could make a sort of clay pigion that isnt so hydroscopic?

Who said ANAL was sensitive to rifle fire? Last time I checked An/XX anything was extremly insensitive. Besides you don't get it. If your going to detonate a secondary explosive your not going to be able to fix it onto a clay pigon its going to need a semi decent ammount of explosive to get a decent explosion out of it. You're better off just fucking shooting the explosive as is in a container then wasting time and energy to try to launch it on a clay pigon. Why are you so hard on clay pigons dick?

If I had to guess, I'd imagine he wants an exploding aerial target...

Blasting gel, AP putty, MEKPAN, Tannerite...

How about you just go and buy your self some tannerite. Its made to be stable and blow up when shot. Or try CuO/Al. It works with pellet guns and 22LR. So about anything will set it off.

I know AN/AL is sensitive to small arms fire because I’ve shot it before. I took two clay pigeons and packed them with 100 grams of AN/AL each, taped them together, and detonated the target with an AR15. I did allot of shit that day.
Black powder, insensitive to rifle fire.
Ammonpulver, insensitive to small arms fire.
An/al with 200 mesh al powder, insensitive to small arms fire.
An/al with 2 micron AL powder BOOM! It also detonated all the AN at the base of the tree stump and disintegrated it.
AN/AL/NM or “ranger venison improvised c4” is also sensitive to small arms fire.

The problem with these is that they are a little too big; I’m trying to make something cheaper that would work in smaller quantities, and be less hydroscopic.

has any one ever done a thread for explosives that are sensative to small arms fire? I've also shot potassium perchlorate based flash powder and got a det, and ive seen video of NG based dynomite deting, but AN/NM failing to det. Ive heard C4 and TNT wont det, but im not sure if range or bullet type could change that.

Yeah I think I've seen that video too ''napalm113'', does it describe how a shaped charge can be made by the common Joe with a wine bottle?
and some stuff on removing the coating on AN with isopropyl/propan-2-ol alcohol?

anyway, no I don't think anyone has ever started a thread like that (could be wrong).

oh and it's ''Hygroscopic'' not ''hydroscopic'' you fiend!

I'm sorry....It had to be quoted.

lol anal

Har har...

You could make some AP putty, shape it into a disc, then give it a few layers of NC lacquer to protect it while it is being launched/handled.

i dont mess with organic peroxides. i doubt ill even do any primaries until i got a place in the country.

Wasn't it you that was talking about AN/AL and AN/AL/NM?

Heck, even the OP is about detting NC.

propan-2-ol = isopropyl, you can only attach the hydroxy in two places after all, and i consider propan-2-ol to be one fucked up name, 2-hydroxypropane is soo much better. AN is soluble in water and alcohol so using the usual 70%IPA will guaranty some losses, even dry IPA may dissolve some.

hahah I know propan-2-ol = isopropyl alcohol...that's why I put a slash in between the two names for the same chem like saying peanut butter and jam/peanut butter and jelly!
so that Americans and non Americans would understand what chem I was talking about


your nomenclature makes hardly any sense... Alcohols by definition are named from their corresponding alkanes by changing the -ane ending to -anol, methane becomes methanol etc.

like do you say ethanol or hydroxyethane?

2-hydroxypropane would indeed represent isopropyl alcohol if you want to be finicky about it,

but you're method is very long winded, like when you want to name one of the isomers of butan-2-ol. you would say
2-methyl-2-hydroxypropane
as you can see it's a bit long winded
why not save your breath and say
2-methylpropan-2-ol

like do you continue your naming scheme into other homologous series like ketones..aldehydes etc.


Of course you''ll get some losses with propan-2-ol...(and who said anything about water?)
but the losses are not worth talking about.
If you come up with an easier method to remove that cruddy yellowy (IIRC urea) coating on common NH4NO3 then I'll be all ears.