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  #1   Add GavMan to your ignore list  
Old 2007-07-03, 02:38
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Hi All,

I started to feel a little sentimental and felt like posting this.

My first REAL exposure can in...about 3rd or 4th grade so figure around 2000-01 and like most of the youngsters my age, exposure came with Cartoonetworks programing block Toonami. At that time they were showing stuff like Dragonball, and Tenchi in Tokyo-and for a short stint Voltron.

This was the stuff that caught my attention and I started to get more into it, then in late 01 CN started airing the original Mobile Suit Gundam. That was the first big anime for me and it still is one of my favorites. It was around this time that I started watching another CN block called Adult Swim. It was a late night block and showed uncut stuff like Tenchi Muyo!, Outlaw Star. Then eventually Inu-Yasha

All good stuff and eventually, started seeing Rurouni Kenshin.

and then in branched out into Escaflowne, FLCL, Basilisk....etc.

My point is that this big medium, started airing all this stuff for kids to see. And this big Anime franchise boomed in the U.S with stuff like Pokémon and Yugio cards and DVDS and Movies.

But the funny thing is a fast as it took this stuff to boom it disappears. Like Mobile Suit Gundam, all the toys and model kits etc.

So, what do you think? I guess what I want to here are your view points on Anime exposure, and the mass commercialization of it.

This might get blamed but. I'm 16 and I still pull out my Rurouni Kenshin DVDs (i even ordered a reverse bladed katana). I think this just illustrates that Anime makes a impression on some people.

cheers,

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Old 2007-07-03, 02:52
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Hmm my start of watching any was somewhat the same. As you mine also started with CN and the same shows. You also missed a few such as Trinity Blood and Zoids.


Yeah and i noticed that too. Like all the big Zoids action figures are gone (except for of course ebay) and Pokemon and Yugio are on their way out too. But you can't just look at it as anime. Look at the classic cartoons. What happened to saturday morning cartoons? Those were some of my fondest memories sitting from like 8-12 watching good old Bugs Bunny.

I don't know its just my opinion. Well thanks for giving me a good flash back of the beginning of my anime career.
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Old 2007-07-03, 03:47
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[quote=Bestechung;8564615]You also missed a few such as Trinity Blood and Zoids.QUOTE]

It's not that I missed, its just I hit some of the ones that I remember vividly, and were sorta the 15 mins. of fame, like Rurouni Kenshin and Tenchi Muyo.

I wonder of theres a lot of politicking that goes on in the big video firms on what Anime is shipped to the USA, and what is aired.

And I find it funny that good content does not always come to full prominence. Like Cowboy Bebop, FLCL and Kenshin-all great shows with awesome stories, but some how stuff like Pokémon and Yugiho take a strangle hold on everything.

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Old 2007-07-03, 04:40
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Hi All,

I started to feel a little sentimental and felt like posting this.

My first REAL exposure can in...about 3rd or 4th grade so figure around 2000-01 and like most of the youngsters my age, exposure came with Cartoonetworks programing block Toonami. At that time they were showing stuff like Dragonball, and Tenchi in Tokyo-and for a short stint Voltron.

This was the stuff that caught my attention and I started to get more into it, then in late 01 CN started airing the original Mobile Suit Gundam. That was the first big anime for me and it still is one of my favorites. It was around this time that I started watching another CN block called Adult Swim. It was a late night block and showed uncut stuff like Tenchi Muyo!, Outlaw Star. Then eventually Inu-Yasha

All good stuff and eventually, started seeing Rurouni Kenshin.

and then in branched out into Escaflowne, FLCL, Basilisk....etc.

My point is that this big medium, started airing all this stuff for kids to see. And this big Anime franchise boomed in the U.S with stuff like Pokémon and Yugio cards and DVDS and Movies.

But the funny thing is a fast as it took this stuff to boom it disappears. Like Mobile Suit Gundam, all the toys and model kits etc.

So, what do you think? I guess what I want to here are your view points on Anime exposure, and the mass commercialization of it.

This might get blamed but. I'm 16 and I still pull out my Rurouni Kenshin DVDs (i even ordered a reverse bladed katana). I think this just illustrates that Anime makes a impression on some people.

cheers,

g
I have a reverse-blade sword as well, in-fact it is probably the same one

It was one of the two swords that I had in my room, and that I could have used... I wonder if I could get away in court by saying I used the reverse blade sword in self-defense, and explaining that the sharp side is reversed on the blade ;D

My first experience would have to be watching, you guessed it... Cowboy Bebop.
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Old 2007-07-03, 04:46
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MahiMaki's post in MP made me think about that too- FLCL is probably too dirty for audience Pokemon and Yugioh have, Cowboy Bebop is probably too violent and has some situations that parents don't like kids to be exposed to (Even though Spike, Faye, and Jet were good guys, they commonly dealt with druggies, transvestites, and such). Rurouni Kenshin had a long run on CN (And not on Adult Swim, either) but I get the feeling it had a big neutering. Whereas DB's edits were mainly to cut out some of the more violent scenes (I recall someone telling me about some of these- sometimes a character is simply punched in the stomach instead of being "impaled"), Kenshin also dealt with Opium and such, IIRC, and it was a bit more bloody than DB.

Not that that's a problem- localization isn't necessarily a bad thing. Some people simply have different sensibilities, and if a company edits something to appeal to a certain demographic, then more power to them. I don't think it's appropriate for little kids to see boobies and sex scenes either. I never saw the big problem with blood on American TV, but whatever. And there will have to be edits to remove Japan-specific jokes which american viewers will not get.

Also, Pokemon and Yugioh were made for franchising. The shows were about collecting- anybody wanting to emulate things on the shows is going to want to "collect" the stuff from them. Having twenty million pokemon just makes people want each of them. There are only a handful of characters in Kenshin and Bebop, and they don't appeal as much to the age groups that would buy cards and toys and such.
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Old 2007-07-04, 04:25
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I got to hand it to you Cboys you made a pretty valid point.

But you could follow that logic and find a reason to cut out most Anime that has ever been on Cartoon network, for on reason or another.

Hell, I remember reading an interview with a Cartoon Network CEO or something about creating Digital "Bikinis" to cover up some female characters.

I can understand this, for the younger children but I think most shows aired on Late Night programing like Adult Swim, don't have to worry about editing alot, because 98.9% of the stuff that airs is not that Blue.

You could say violence, drug use, sex, and blood (Although some shows have more than others like Kenshin). Are all valid reasons to edit stuff, but if it wasn't for Kenshin, Bebop, and all the earlier stuff we would not have the Trinity Bloods, Bleaches, And to an extent Inu-yahsa.

And you can see how this could translate like Tenchi Muyo Influenced Love Hina, etc.

But I like that channels like IFC air adult-oriented shows like Basilisk that are really violent and have sexual situations

any way...........*shrugs head and goes off to watch Spirited Away, My Neighbor Totoro, and Samurai X: Reflection*

cheers,

g
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Old 2007-07-04, 04:44
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First episode of Outlaw Star aired on CN:

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[SIZE=-1]I) Outlaw World



This wasn't easy. For "minimal editing" they really went wild.

1. Gene's "hell"changed to "heck"

2. OP gone (of course)

3. Pirate fighter pilot's "damn" changed to "blast"

4. Again, see above.

5. Small edit of Gene and Jim playing cards in the bar.

6. Dialogue changed so Gene and Jim are playing Go Fish instead of Poker (Baka, baaka)

7. Scene of Gene throwing down his Poker hand before the fight cut.

8. Jim's "damn" changed to "darn".

9. Death Rob's "killed 30 men" changed to "taken 30 men".

10. Blood matted out when Gene shoots Death Rob.

11. Scene of Gene shooting death Rob in the head cut.

12. Scene of Death Rob spitting up blood when Gene knifes him cut.

13. Scene of Gene fondling Iris' butt cut. Jim's dialogue altered accordingly.

14. Jim's "hit the casino" changed to "hit the club".

15. Scene of Gene and Jim's sexual banter before splitting up cut.

16. Jim's "scumbag" changed to "loser".

17. Scene of Gene in hotel room with hooker cut completely.

18. Gene's girly poster over his bed now has a digital bathing suit.

19. Blood matted out of street fight between Gene and the pirates.

20. Pirate's "damn" changed to "blast".

21. Jim's "hell" changed to "heck".

22. Gene's "asshole" changed to "loser".

23. Pirate girl's "they've been killed" changed to "they're destroyed".

24. Scene of Hilda putting her gun to Gene's chest and firing cut.

25. Small cut from Gene putting his gun to Hilda's head cut.

26. Melfina wearing digital leotard in trunk.

27. Gene's "naked girl" changed to "weird girl" in preview.
Ongoing record of US network anime and its edits:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/edit...001/06#2001-06
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Old 2007-07-04, 16:32
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I think I saw a couple episodes of that show... wasn't it on Adult Swim? All I remember is that the main character had some badass blaster pistol, and there was a comic relief character shaped like a pill.

Maybe it was originally intended for the dub to go on normal Cartoon Network, which would excuse the curse words. But it still seems overzealous.
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Old 2007-07-05, 03:18
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Man, I remember a time when the only anime they showed on Cartoon Network was Sailormoon, Robotech (), Voltron, and Dragon Ball Z on Toonami.

Damn I'm gettin old.
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Old 2007-07-05, 21:44
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Yeah you are, i don't remember that.
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