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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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2007-06-30, 14:29
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I need to let my mother understand something.
Yesterday , I went on a date with my girlfreind , she doesnt know this girl is my girlfreind but she knew i was going on a date. My girlfreind left me a slight hicky on my neck no big deal. I didnt even really notice she did it. My mother is a pentecostal freak , and went on a ranting rampage about aids,pregnancy, and hell and in one very odd speech. Im 17 going on 18 and dont really go much or do anything crazy.
Yet, she acts like some kind of paganistic fornicator of satan sometimes. I know she just wants her only son too make something good of himself. But come on now, I think i have the right to do things that normal teenage people do.
I want advice on how to tell her that I have a girlfreind and gently explain things to her. She isnt going to be pleased. If , it was up to her I would get with a church girl. Thats just not my thing though.
Can totse help me out here? ketch , yoyo , regulars , new arrivals ?
I need some serious advice.
thanks
Lobo
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# 2

2007-06-30, 14:33
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
My mum was never like that, so I cant really reccomend anything except trying to explain things to her rationally.
But of course, if she's a religious nut, rational may not help.
I think Jackketch had a psycho religious family? I'm looking forward to his advice on this.
Do remember though, that lovebites are a bit 'extreme' for some in the older generations. It may seem like no big deal to us, but considering they're still coming to terms with stuff like anal sex, its' not going to go down so well.
I reccomend biting *below* the collar line in future.
And good luck.
When are you going to introduce your girlfriend to your mum, or might that not be the best way to calm her down?
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# 3

2007-06-30, 14:37
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Not really much you can do, actually. Well, except move out. Until then, just keep it easy and don't be obvious about things. I was in the same situation once, there was really no good way to go.
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# 4

2007-06-30, 14:45
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Try to imagine it from her perspective, parents will always jump the gun, if she can see a hickey, to her it's a sure sign that you're having unprotected sex with slutty women. Try and tell her that you're serious (Even if you're not) And that you're being safe, give her time & She'll come around.
Again though- Bites below the collar line.
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# 5

2007-06-30, 14:46
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Hate to say it but there really ain't much you can do except man up and tell your mum where to get off....respectfully of course.
You fall into the trap of giving into her for the sake of keeping the peace then you'll regret it for the rest of your life and never hold down a real relationship.
Make it clear to her that you are of an age to make your own choices and carry the responsibility for your own actions in the eyes of God.
MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR TO HER that you will NEVER brook any interference from her in matters of the heart. You will respect her wishes not to bring such girls home or to defile her house with adulterous premarital sex BUT whom you choose to sleep with and where is you business and yours alone(yes do give her the impression that you are sleeping with this and other girls).
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2007-06-30, 14:52
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Or you could be really evil and simply say "Mum, what makes you think it was a girl who gave me the love bite?"
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# 7

2007-06-30, 14:53
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
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Originally Posted by jackketch
Hate to say it but there really ain't much you can do except man up and tell your mum where to get off....respectfully of course.
You fall into the trap of giving into her for the sake of keeping the peace then you'll regret it for the rest of your life and never hold down a real relationship.
Make it clear to her that you are of an age to make your own choices and carry the responsibility for your own actions in the eyes of God.
MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR TO HER that you will NEVER brook any interference from her in matters of the heart. You will respect her wishes not to bring such girls home or to defile her house with adulterous premarital sex BUT whom you choose to sleep with and where is you business and yours alone(yes do give her the impression that you are sleeping with this and other girls).
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Thanks , but I do not if i can tell her in that same fashion , I'll try to tell her best I can.
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Originally Posted by yoyobek
My mum was never like that, so I cant really reccomend anything except trying to explain things to her rationally.
But of course, if she's a religious nut, rational may not help.
I think Jackketch had a psycho religious family? I'm looking forward to his advice on this.
Do remember though, that lovebites are a bit 'extreme' for some in the older generations. It may seem like no big deal to us, but considering they're still coming to terms with stuff like anal sex, its' not going to go down so well.
I reccomend biting *below* the collar line in future.
And good luck.
When are you going to introduce your girlfriend to your mum, or might that not be the best way to calm her down?
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Introduce , definately not. I like my girlfreind and everything but I think she'll rub my mother the wrong way. On top of my mother being religious she also has stereotypes. My girlfreind is some nicaragua. So basically any women from south america is a slutty whore who just want you to impregnate her.
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# 8

2007-06-30, 14:55
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
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Or you could be really evil and simply say "Mum, what makes you think it was a girl who gave me the love bite?"
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Fucking GOLD
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# 9

2007-06-30, 14:57
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
I don't think there is much way to talk to your mom, by the sounds of it she just doesn't want you to fuck up. That's normal, possibly not to this extent. She seems hardened in her ways.
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# 10

2007-06-30, 15:01
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
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Originally Posted by jackketch
Or you could be really evil and simply say "Mum, what makes you think it was a girl who gave me the love bite?"
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Dead people , cant post in totse.
well maybe in science of the damned..
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#11
 2007-06-30, 15:05
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
ketch , arent you suprised I didnt say ''making out'' once in my thread. I just noticed that.
What have I become?!?!!!?!?!
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#12
 2007-06-30, 15:08
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Introduce , definately not. I like my girlfreind and everything but I think she'll rub my mother the wrong way. On top of my mother being religious she also has stereotypes. My girlfreind is some nicaragua. So basically any women from south america is a slutty whore who just want you to impregnate her.
So your mother is a (no offense) highly religous somewhat rascist old woman?
I know that you probably love your mother (and you rightly should) but in this case she doesn't get to have that much of a say.
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#13
 2007-06-30, 15:09
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
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Originally Posted by Lobo
ketch , arent you suprised I didnt say ''making out'' once in my thread. I just noticed that.
What have I become?!?!!!?!?!
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Did you at least get to second base?
Does your mum think you lost your v-card to this babe?
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#14
 2007-06-30, 15:11
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Tell her you had unprotected anal and take a pic of her face.
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#15
 2007-06-30, 15:19
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
As far as I'm concerned Lobo you have no business being in this relationship with the girl. If you can't MAN UP and talk to your mom with absolute HONESTY about completely normal things, then you aren't ready or stable enough to be involved with someone. As long as you need mommy's "acceptance" or even "understanding" while you go about your life, you'll forever be just a mommy's boy clinging to her apron strings.
I see these scenarios all the time in Dear Abby, Dr. Phil, Maury....and all other things dealing with human relationships. The woman talks about something like....."I married a great guy that is awesome, except for his attachment to his mother. She criticizes everything we do, and she butts into our business where she has no rightful place to do so. Now that we have kids of our own she often criticizes MY mothering, so its only gotten worse and I'm at the end of my rope now..........." Usually those scenarios end up in divorce, separation, or a myriad of other ugly closures.
You'll never truly be able to make another woman happy until you are completely confident 100% without needing mommy's approval. Unless you start searching/dating religious zealots just as demented as your mom. Then and ONLY then will this work out where you don't have to confront mommy, and everyone lives happily ever after.......of course you constantly walking around at her whims until she dies.
Just grow a fuckin set of balls, or be prepared to live at mommy's house until you are in your 40's.
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#16
 2007-06-30, 15:19
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
So your mother is a (no offense) highly religous somewhat rascist old woman?
I know that you probably love your mother (and you rightly should) but in this case she doesn't get to have that much of a say.
Non-taken , yes you are correct. I do love her yet at the same time harbor some negative feelings. Its just kind of difficult since she's my only finanicial support and I basically cant count on my father. So if she gets too pissed off about a simple matter of this it could cause a social and finacial catastrophe.
For me ofcourse.
My mother seriously gets me thinking about joining the fucking army , seriously does.
Doubt I'll go to that extent , but it is plausible.
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#17
 2007-06-30, 15:24
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
My mother seriously gets me thinking about joining the fucking army , seriously does.
Doubt I'll go to that extent , but it is plausible.
So in essence, you are considering not being a pawn for your mommy.....to being a pawn to the government?????
Ignore my first post on this thread , I don't think there is much hope for you.
Rape (of the girl)/murder (of mommy)/suicide.....probably is the only realistic answer at this point.
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#18
 2007-06-30, 15:26
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
I recently got to know a pentacostal person. They're in a league of their own with wackiness that every other religious denomination I've talked with finds impressively disturbed.
Good luck.
Your mother may not like you for a long time to come, but you're going to need to bite that bullet if you expect to grow as a person.
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#19
 2007-06-30, 15:31
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Lobo 
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
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Originally Posted by DaGuru
As far as I'm concerned Lobo you have no business being in this relationship with the girl. If you can't MAN UP and talk to your mom with absolute HONESTY about completely normal things, then you aren't ready or stable enough to be involved with someone. As long as you need mommy's "acceptance" or even "understanding" while you go about your life, you'll forever be just a mommy's boy clinging to her apron strings.
I see these scenarios all the time in Dear Abby, Dr. Phil, Maury....and all other things dealing with human relationships. The woman talks about something like....."I married a great guy that is awesome, except for his attachment to his mother. She criticizes everything we do, and she butts into our business where she has no rightful place to do so. Now that we have kids of our own she often criticizes MY mothering, so its only gotten worse and I'm at the end of my rope now..........." Usually those scenarios end up in divorce, separation, or a myriad of other ugly closures.
You'll never truly be able to make another woman happy until you are completely confident 100% without needing mommy's approval. Unless you start searching/dating religious zealots just as demented as your mom. Then and ONLY then will this work out where you don't have to confront mommy, and everyone lives happily ever after.......of course you constantly walking around at her whims until she dies.
Just grow a fuckin set of balls, or be prepared to live at mommy's house until you are in your 40's.
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Your right. It's not so much of acceptance. I really dont care if she doesnt like it. I just care that she wouldnt leave me alone about it. My family has totally dulled down my emotions in that perspective about not giving a fuck.
I know the messege your trying to convey though.
So in essence, you are considering not being a pawn for your mommy.....to being a pawn to the government?????
Ignore my first post on this thread , I don't think there is much hope for you.
Rape (of the girl)/murder (of mommy)/suicide.....probably is the only realistic answer at this point.
I was being sarcastic.
Just over emphasizing the desire to break away from my family.
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#20
 2007-06-30, 15:38
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Your right. It's not so much of acceptance. I really dont care if she doesnt like it. I just care that she wouldnt leave me alone about it. My family has totally dulled down my emotions in that perspective about not giving a fuck.
I know the messege your trying to convey though.
Glad to see you get where I'm coming from. What you just described is a trait you very often find with religious whackos. They are unfeeling robots, not truly LIVING LIFE and spend more time worrying about things they feel they "shouldn't do" rather than just enjoying what they have. I understand because of age and living situations you do have to be somewhat covert in things you want to engage in as you go about your life. Just keep plugging away, continue the game of hide-n-seek, and make EVERY attempt at getting out from underneath that roof in the quickest time possible. As long as your heart and mind believes that, it will all work out in the end. But it is good to hear you at least recognize the problem, and sincerely don't want to live out your life constantly pursuing your mom's ok as you go about it.
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 2007-06-30, 15:50
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Glad to see you get where I'm coming from. What you just described is a trait you very often find with religious whackos. They are unfeeling robots, not truly LIVING LIFE and spend more time worrying about things they feel they "shouldn't do" rather than just enjoying what they have. I understand because of age and living situations you do have to be somewhat covert in things you want to engage in as you go about your life. Just keep plugging away, continue the game of hide-n-seek, and make EVERY attempt at getting out from underneath that roof in the quickest time possible. As long as your heart and mind believes that, it will all work out in the end. But it is good to hear you at least recognize the problem, and sincerely don't want to live out your life constantly pursuing your mom's ok as you go about it.
hey. You're a good poster.
It'd be great if you could email me. I've something important to chat to you about but I'd feel silly saying it here.
\(Oo)/
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#22
 2007-06-30, 16:03
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Grab yer ma. Give her a visible hickey.
Let her explain that at church.
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#23
 2007-06-30, 16:15
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
hey. You're a good poster.
It'd be great if you could email me. I've something important to chat to you about but I'd feel silly saying it here.
\(Oo)/
Email sent. Please keep in mind I'll be in and out for much of the day, so I'm not intentionally ignoring or avoiding whatever you want to discuss. But I will address it sooner than later....hopefully by tonight/tomorrow. Thanks.
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#24
 2007-06-30, 16:20
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Your right. It's not so much of acceptance. I really dont care if she doesnt like it. I just care that she wouldnt leave me alone about it. My family has totally dulled down my emotions in that perspective about not giving a fuck.
I know the messege your trying to convey though.
I was being sarcastic.
Just over emphasizing the desire to break away from my family.
I get that now. Sorry about the rape/murder/suicide advice. Its just that I see so many people thinking by joining the service it is an escape to all of their problems, or even washing them all away. More often than not it just makes their lives worse, and sometimes they even end up dead because of that naive thought process. Especially if we are discussing joing the armed forces in the USA. Glad to hear you were just venting/joking.
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#25
 2007-06-30, 16:25
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
I guess she could pull out the old rule "while you're living under my roof you'll do as I say" thing.
I think there's only one way to deal with that..
18, almost?
How soon before you can get a job and move out?
I know that having to save up for a deposit on a place might take awhile, and course, I dont know what the economy is like over there. Do you have any friends you could rent with if rent prices are too much for one person?
Moving out can sound kind of scary, but once you've got a place to go to and all your shit boxed up, it feels very refreshing, and kind of exciting.
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#26
 2007-06-30, 16:34
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
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I guess she could pull out the old rule "while you're living under my roof you'll do as I say" thing.
I think there's only one way to deal with that..
18, almost?
How soon before you can get a job and move out?
I know that having to save up for a deposit on a place might take awhile, and course, I dont know what the economy is like over there. Do you have any friends you could rent with if rent prices are too much for one person?
Moving out can sound kind of scary, but once you've got a place to go to and all your shit boxed up, it feels very refreshing, and kind of exciting.
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Well , I could find a place to stay with a freind. But , once I do that my family relationship is going to be completely fucked. I know my mother , she's going to pull out '' My whole Ive worked for my kids and now they just want to leave me '' kind of gig. I know she's been through alot but she pulls out the victim card too much on me.
I dont have a dad basically , and no sibling support.
Im going to admit it does sound a little scary but something im going to have to do, and the looks of things more sooner then later. She just has this mindset to conform to society's will and the church's. While I just want to have a normal life , or semi-normal life. I dont believe what im asking for is anything outrageous. All in all , she still and always think she is getting the short end of the stick.
I appreciate her , but im not ruining my life just to appease her ego and eccentric beliefs. This has been a remarkably helpful thread actually.
Thanks everyone.
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#27
 2007-06-30, 23:03
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
This isn't just about the girl it seems now.
This thread is more about you standing up to your mother and stopping letting her completely rule your life, am I right?
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 2007-06-30, 23:09
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Well , I could find a place to stay with a freind. But , once I do that my family relationship is going to be completely fucked. I know my mother , she's going to pull out '' My whole Ive worked for my kids and now they just want to leave me '' kind of gig. I know she's been through alot but she pulls out the victim card too much on me.
I dont have a dad basically , and no sibling support.
Im going to admit it does sound a little scary but something im going to have to do, and the looks of things more sooner then later. She just has this mindset to conform to society's will and the church's. While I just want to have a normal life , or semi-normal life. I dont believe what im asking for is anything outrageous. All in all , she still and always think she is getting the short end of the stick.
I appreciate her , but im not ruining my life just to appease her ego and eccentric beliefs. This has been a remarkably helpful thread actually.
Thanks everyone.
Brilliant.
Good luck and all.I hope you manage to sort something out where you can still be friends with your mum.
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#29
 2007-07-01, 00:30
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
Brilliant.
Good luck and all.I hope you manage to sort something out where you can still be friends with your mum.
Thanks.
This isn't just about the girl it seems now.
This thread is more about you standing up to your mother and stopping letting her completely rule your life, am I right?
Partially.
I do like this girl though.
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#30
 2007-07-01, 00:39
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
http://www.best-horror-movies.com/image-files/carrie-mom-crucifixion.jpg
here is an important lesson about whacko religous folks from carrie
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#31
 2007-07-01, 01:47
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
The best thing to do is undercut her opinions. Went she goes on a rant just stand there and wait until she is done. Let her know that you dont really care for her ideas.
You obviously have a good head on your shoulders. You only get to be young once, so do what feels good to you.
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#32
 2007-07-01, 02:18
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
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The best thing to do is undercut her opinions. Went she goes on a rant just stand there and wait until she is done. Let her know that you dont really care for her ideas.
You obviously have a good head on your shoulders. You only get to be young once, so do what feels good to you.
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Thats all I basically do , and look at her with a face that mr.bateman from American Physco would be envious of.
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#33
 2007-07-01, 02:47
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
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Or you could be really evil and simply say "Mum, what makes you think it was a girl who gave me the love bite?"
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OHH GOD i LOLed
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#34
 2007-07-01, 06:26
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Re: I need to let my mother understand something.
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Yesterday , I went on a date with my girlfreind , she doesnt know this girl is my girlfreind but she knew i was going on a date. My girlfreind left me a slight hicky on my neck no big deal. I didnt even really notice she did it. My mother is a pentecostal freak , and went on a ranting rampage about aids,pregnancy, and hell and in one very odd speech. Im 17 going on 18 and dont really go much or do anything crazy.
Yet, she acts like some kind of paganistic fornicator of satan sometimes. I know she just wants her only son too make something good of himself. But come on now, I think i have the right to do things that normal teenage people do.
I want advice on how to tell her that I have a girlfreind and gently explain things to her. She isnt going to be pleased. If , it was up to her I would get with a church girl. Thats just not my thing though.
Can totse help me out here? ketch , yoyo , regulars , new arrivals ?
I need some serious advice.
thanks
Lobo
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I didnt really read what you wrote but from what i can gather you are a big pussy. Infact, you and you're relatives are pussies, and the pussy you are fucking has more balls than you.
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