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2007-06-29, 21:46
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Final Diphen trip report
This is going to be my last trip report of diphenhydramine since i think i've begun to do irreversible damage to my brain. :/ But on the positive side, it's a damn good read.
So yesterday I had 14 generic "explenda" or some shit diphenhydramine HCl capsules. Remembering that vitamin C was a stron potentiator, i drank 2 kern's juices, which have a 100% vitamin C in each can. Well considering this was only 350mg of diphen, i expected it to not be very strong. However I had only done the generic shit one other time, as opposed to almost always having used Pfizer Benadryl, so I didn't know what to expect.
After taking the pills it took maybe nearly two hours for the DPH to metabolize and start working. During that time I just watched tv. Then it hit me.
Usually when I did DPH, i would get a lot of visual hallucinations and pretty much zero audio, unless it was a hallucination of a person talking to me. But this time, not only did i have the visual stuff, but I could hear people speaking to each other.
I couldn't quite make out what exactly they were saying, but none of the voices were talking to me, i was pretty much just some bystander. it was like being in a room with two other people that dont know you and are talking to each other. It wasn't scary, in fact I kind of thought it was interesting, but after a while it got annoying and found myself telling them to shut up. For some reason, this worked. Later I figured out that the only time the voices would start talking was when I wasn't thinking about them, i.e. when i was distracted like watching more tv, which ended up seeming incredibly boring and pointless for some reason.
I started feeling sick even though i had eaten earlier, i guess the generic shit is cheap for a reason. I sat down at the computer, got on totse and tried to figure out how to end the trip, and then saw a spider crawling against the desk. I got startled but i wasn't really scared, i just flicked it away and it dissappeared. I still felt sick so I laid down on the couch and got some open eye visuals and closed eye visuals. For a while i kept talking to people that weren't there and then snapping out of it while finishing a sentence or nodding yes or no. It really didn't bug me but I couldn't help but think "if mom or dad come home it would be really obvious that im tripping" but it didn't really bother me.
What bothered me was the fact that i had lost one of the packagings for the DPH and it maybe totaled up to 12 of those little pop-out pill packages. I probably searched the house frantically for two hours, and kept forgetting what i was doing. somehow i started to get a one-track mind like adderall or ritalin (or speed, to be honest) which was weird since DPH makes this almost impossible. I was fuckin freaked because i did NOT want ANYBODY finding those GODDAMNED packages. I kept looking and somehow after a whie i was still tripping but i could remember clearly what i was doing. I knew i was still tripping though because i kept hearing people talking but now it was more tangible, i really thought a man and a woman were talking outside of my house and when i would go out to find them they must have ran to the other side. Plus i would hear something banging on that side of the house, so it seemed even more plausible to me. I couldn't do anything for more than 10 seconds without this coming back, now i figure this was because i kept taking my mind off of it and that;s what made the audio hallucinations come back. I must have tried 5 to 10 times to get back onto totse and ask how to end the trip again since it was lasting too long and i had work, but when i would get on my computer the voices and banging would come back and i would exit out of firefox (still dont know why i did this over and over) and go investigate.
Somewhere in the back of my mind i knew the voices weren't real but the biggest thing on my mind, besides finding those pill packages, was finding those people trying to break into my house. I tried powernapping but this only led to more OEV's but strangely only a few CEV's (open and closed eye visuals). I guess it was because for some reason i kept my eyes open almost the whoel time i was trying to go to sleep. (strangely, I never knew what "power-napping" was until i was as wiped as i was yesterday.)
the audio hallucinations by themselves went away and i just talked to people that weren't there for a little while before going into this kind of sleep where my mind was still awake but my body had shut down. It was really strange but very very relaxing. I don't think my mind shut off at all during the time i was sleeping. it was really weird but kind of cool. I still felt shitty after i woke up, but it was a lot better than how i was feeling before. I went to work still tripping but not as hard, not realizing i didn't have to work until 6.
guy: "What are you doing here? It's 5:00."
me: "well my shift is at 5:30 and i figured i might as well come early and eat"
guy: "Your shift is at 6 today."
me: "oh ok."
so i walked home and did some more powernapping. I felt way better once i woke up again. it was great since time was fuckin crawling by, I felt like i had slept for almost 30 minutes but i went back and checked the clock and only five minutes had passed.
That's when the trip pretty much ended. I decided to never do diphen again after feeling that shitty and not wanting to waste anymore money on that stuff. I had a godo time with it but i'm over it and moving onto something else. My only regret it that i didn't videotape my strange antics.
That's pretty much it. It was weird since I never had audio hallucinations like that. it was even weirder since none of them really seemed interested in talking to me, only talking gibberish to each other. The yweren't hostile or anything, just kind of... there. like a rock on the sidewalk or something like that.
You know how they say hallucinogens can bring out latent mental disorders in people? Well what i'm thinking is that i have some form of inactive paranoid schizophrenia hidden in the back of my mind, and all the diphen did was bring it out into the open. I really don't know. to be honest, I really don't care, either.
There it is, my last diphen trip. hope you liked reading it.
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# 2

2007-06-29, 21:48
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
Too long/didn't read
but...
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Originally Posted by TetrisHydraCanOfBeanOil
This is going to be my last trip report of diphenhydramine since i think i've begun to do irreversible damage to my brain.
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Thats surprising!!!!11
edit;sarcasm.
Last edited by mari juana; 2007-06-29 at 21:55.
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# 3

2007-06-29, 21:54
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
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Originally Posted by mari juana
Thats surprising!!!!11
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not really, i have HPPD but it's not like acid HPPD with swirling walls, or like DXM HPPD (although I do have pretty bad static overlay) but it's pretty much like, once in a while i'll see shit that's not really there, like a dog or fire hydrant that doesn't really exist and then dissappears when I look back. and extremely rarely, i think it happened twice, i get really tired and weighed down and have trouble balancing while walking or even standing, much like diphen. so that's it. :/ dont want to hurt my brain anymore, or at least not in that respect.
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# 4

2007-06-29, 22:03
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
Out of all my experiences with diphen I have never seen people or closed eye visuals unless dreaming. Lots of times I just see stuff morph, dance to the music, or tons of spiders forming. Occasionally I'll have an audio thought.
I remember one time while mixing ecstasy with Diphen I dream-walked the day after and apparently did tons of chores my parents wanted me to do without me even knowing i left my room or that they came in that morning to tell me to do them. I made ten dollars.
During the night, I dream-walked to my computer turned on some music and had a remembrance of the rave I went to the weekend before. I woke up sometime later standing in the middle of my room with my headphones on.
Good read.
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# 5

2007-06-29, 22:38
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
I didn't read it but I'm glad to see your quitting that. I tried it twice and I actually saw some pretty amazing shit(keep in mind I've done acid and 2ci also to compare with) but I will not do it again even though I had good experiences.
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# 6

2007-06-29, 22:42
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
You could have summed that entire report up with 4 simple words.
I am a dumbass.
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2007-06-29, 22:54
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
You could have summed that entire report up with 4 simple words.
I am a dumbass.
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Yes you are, for reading it. 
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# 8

2007-06-29, 23:33
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
I enjoyed the read.
I am also happy for you for quitting. Even though I am a Bandit of Diphen, I respect a man's desicion to put the stuff down.
But Im going to pick some up.
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# 9

2007-06-29, 23:38
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
Jokes on you dumbass, I didn't read it. But I don't have to read it to know that it screams dipshit.
Any trip report that starts with diphen may as well end with the reporter submitting to an IQ test, and then on to a firing squad, since ANYONE that does diphen on a regular basis will never contribute anything of value to society, except comedic relief.
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# 10

2007-06-30, 00:08
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
Why do you hate people who use diphen stupid noob? Because it's a stupid drug that only children or downies do? I think slamming lidocaine is something only downies do. 
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#11
 2007-06-30, 00:20
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
You could have summed that entire report up with 4 simple words.
I am a dumbass.
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I agree with you for once.
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#12
 2007-06-30, 01:10
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
i really don't get diphen i tried 2 times and didn't see or hear shit is there like something special you do or is it like those kids who do less then 200 mgs dxm and think their tripping balls (not a crack at dxm just people who think there hardcore because they took like an extra spoonfull when they had a cold)
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#13
 2007-06-30, 15:40
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
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Originally Posted by evilman
i really don't get diphen i tried 2 times and didn't see or hear shit is there like something special you do or is it like those kids who do less then 200 mgs dxm and think their tripping balls (not a crack at dxm just people who think there hardcore because they took like an extra spoonfull when they had a cold)
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do more. actually don't do it, most people hate it. :|
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#14
 2007-06-30, 15:45
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
Jokes on you dumbass, I didn't read it. But I don't have to read it to know that it screams dipshit.
Any trip report that starts with diphen may as well end with the reporter submitting to an IQ test, and then on to a firing squad, since ANYONE that does diphen on a regular basis will never contribute anything of value to society, except comedic relief.
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Fuck you. just because i try things other people won't doesn't make me a dumbass. If i tried datura, you guys wouldn't be like "omg lulz lyk ur teh r3tard!" but they're pretty much the same. And besides jut because ive done things other people haven't doesn't mean i have little drug experience. I've IV'ed morphine. hell, i was an opiate addict. I've done things you probably never want to try because you're a fuckin pussy who sits in his mommy's basement all day and jacks off to anime and has never had a fuckin girlfriend. Just because there's drugs you're too much of a pussy to try doesn't exactly make me the dumbass in this situation.
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#15
 2007-06-30, 16:01
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the half unlit 
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
so this is all you had to do on a saturday afternoon?
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#16
 2007-06-30, 16:35
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
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Originally Posted by the half unlit
so this is all you had to do on a saturday afternoon?
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the trip was thursday. i wrote it up yesterday (friday)
none of my friends wanted to go skate or bmx and i couldn't really go anywhere for very long because of work
plus i was tired from the day before
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#17
 2007-06-30, 17:01
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
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Originally Posted by mextol
Why do you hate people who use diphen stupid noob? Because it's a stupid drug that only children or downies do? I think slamming lidocaine is something only downies do. 
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The lidocaine injections are IM dumbass. Or SC. IV lidocaine would be for downies, because systemic exposure to lidocaine can cause all kinds of problems.
AND I have tried diphen before, in large doses. I wouldn't talk shit about something unless I had tried it, and I've tried all kinds of other shit too. AND I would call you a dumbass for using datura, because that shit sucks too, because I've done it.
And this was long before BLTC or erowid even fucking existed. And no gf? My son will be born in two days. Moms basement? sorry. Never IVd morphine? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
Have YOU ever acetylated that morphine and THEN shot it? EH? no? RIGHT. Don't even try coming at me like you've done more than me, or know more, because trust me kid, you got NOTHING on me. I could go on and on with shit that YOU wouldn't even fucking understand, let alone have the balls or intelligence to actually pull off.
Diphen is a sleep aid. It is used to help potentiate opiates, and relieve itch. That's it. The effects you feel are NOT that of a recreational drug, and using it as such merely shows your lack of education on REAL recreational drugs. If you've done LSD, and you still prefer diphen, something is wrong with you. So you are either uneducated, or, a god damn retard.
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#18
 2007-06-30, 17:52
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
The lidocaine injections are IM dumbass. Or SC. IV lidocaine would be for downies, because systemic exposure to lidocaine can cause all kinds of problems.
AND I have tried diphen before, in large doses. I wouldn't talk shit about something unless I had tried it, and I've tried all kinds of other shit too. AND I would call you a dumbass for using datura, because that shit sucks too, because I've done it.
And this was long before BLTC or erowid even fucking existed. And no gf? My son will be born in two days. Moms basement? sorry. Never IVd morphine? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
Have YOU ever acetylated that morphine and THEN shot it? EH? no? RIGHT. Don't even try coming at me like you've done more than me, or know more, because trust me kid, you got NOTHING on me. I could go on and on with shit that YOU wouldn't even fucking understand, let alone have the balls or intelligence to actually pull off.
Diphen is a sleep aid. It is used to help potentiate opiates, and relieve itch. That's it. The effects you feel are NOT that of a recreational drug, and using it as such merely shows your lack of education on REAL recreational drugs. If you've done LSD, and you still prefer diphen, something is wrong with you. So you are either uneducated, or, a god damn retard.
lol pwnd.
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#19
 2007-06-30, 18:54
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
It's a fools fate
without your word
you're a shell of a man
I lost respect for you
we can never be friends
I know I'm runnin' through your head now
what could you do?
If it was up to you
I'd be dead now
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#20
 2007-06-30, 19:45
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
Diphen is a sleep aid. It is used to help potentiate opiates, and relieve itch. That's it. The effects you feel are NOT that of a recreational drug, and using it as such merely shows your lack of education on REAL recreational drugs. If you've done LSD, and you still prefer diphen, something is wrong with you. So you are either uneducated, or, a god damn retard.
Diphen>>>nothing
end of conversation
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#21
 2007-06-30, 19:47
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
personally i'd rather be sober than take diph or dimen.
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#22
 2007-06-30, 23:05
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
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Originally Posted by speedfreak420
personally i'd rather be sober than take diph or dimen.
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hear, hear. To the OP: you may not understand this now, but when you start maturing you will see the stupidity of your actions. *sigh*
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#23
 2007-06-30, 23:16
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
how much gets you good i did about six 25mg pills and all it made me do was fall asleep
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#24
 2007-07-01, 01:10
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
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Originally Posted by evilman
how much gets you good i did about six 25mg pills and all it made me do was fall asleep
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the idea is to stay awake, buddy. and you need to do way more than that. try 10 for a first time then 14 to 24 afterwards.
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#25
 2007-07-01, 03:12
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
the idea is to stay awake, buddy. and you need to do way more than that. try 10 for a first time then 14 to 24 afterwards.
Do you get tired first then you begin to actually feel it?
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#26
 2007-07-01, 03:27
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
It's odd. I personally fell asleep then was rudely awaken by the bitch slap of hallucinations and swarms of bees forming from the paint on my walls. Then, I kept trying to talk to people who would come out of the shadows, but I could only mumble and fall back down on my bed. Do you honestly wan t ot ba at the mercy of something so irratic and damaging?
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#27
 2007-07-01, 04:07
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
Do you get tired first then you begin to actually feel it?
Once you feel like your getting tired is when it is starting. You sit there and then you think hmm.. I'm tired, I should go to bed. So then you get into your bed and you realize I can't sleep. Theres still so much caffeine and other stimulants in me. Then you decided to just stay put for a while and hope you pass out. Time passes and you have to pee. You realize that on your way to the restroom you were really dizzy and kept running into the walls. Now your thinking oh yeah I'm on diphen and it just now kicking in. Might as well take a couple more since your in the restroom right. You stumble back to your room. Things are now different. You don't think about it. Turn off the lights and go back to bed. Things are starting to morph. Most objects look evil. You have no idea what is happening. You know your on diphen, but it still doesn't make sense. You've become delirious. The bed feels like it is trying to eat you and figures are everywhere. You turn on the light. Suddenly things don't look evil, but they look happy. You turn on some music and they dance. The lights go off and the evil is back. For me the light determines the experience.
If new take one or two the first time to make sure your not allergic to it. The next time take 300mg. There has been an increasing number of people not testing for allergic reaction and ending up in the hospital for a 300mg dose so be careful.
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#28
 2007-07-01, 06:08
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
I'm not sure on the dose because I wasn't sure how much I should take but after awhile my body just felt heavy and I felt kinda drowsy.I was watching tv and didn't feel anything noticeable after awhile so I just went to bed. I guess I didn't take enough.
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#29
 2007-07-03, 04:54
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
Do you get tired first then you begin to actually feel it?
The first sign for me is always really bad cottonmouth. then tiredness.
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#30
 2007-07-03, 06:06
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
Does the tiredness go away after the start or does it remain during the whole trip?
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#31
 2007-07-03, 13:20
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Re: Final Diphen trip report
I did it for the first time last night (while my gf watched over me. I took 750-800mg.
I don't get how people can bash on it all the time.
It was a pretty cool experience. I still have some of the effects going, reading can be next to impossible because I cant make out the letters with these blurry eyes.
My girlfriend was asleep next to me later in the night and I kept "hearing/seeing" her tell me to do stuff and ask for stuff. Apparently I was cleaning my room at 4am.
However even though it was a cool experience I don't believe I'll do it again. First reason not to do it again is because I have asthma, second reason is that I have mental illnesses and I fear it would unleash them more. Last but not least, feeling someone put their hands on your shoulders from behind when nobody is there, it's not a very pleasant thing to feel.
Surprisingly to me I never got scared just uncomfortable.
If you just want to get high do something else, D is not for you. Want to have an interesting experiance, try it.
P.S. Never done any psychedelics before this so it was a blast of fresh air. Now I'm pretty excited to try mushrooms/lsd :)
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