This forum will not tolerate warez or spam. Certain members have been posting links to rapidshare that allow users to download warez. This will not be tolerated.

From this point on, warez links will be a no-tolerance issue; you will receive one infraction per link, and it only takes two infractions to be banned. If you happen to post multiple links in a single post, it looks like you'll be taking a little time-out.

This is everyone's official warning. I won't tolerate criminal activity on this forum.

Thanks for cooperating. Have a nice day.

Please respond with any questions or concerns. Also, feel free to email me at toraton@gmail.com .

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codelove && codeshare

Lol, you stupid fuck.
I posted a link prior to you making this thread/sticky, and I get 5 infraction points and -rep for it?

Your sir, are a fucking faggot.

You've been posting them for days; it has always been a rule, but it has not before been 'zero tolerance'.

You're lucky that I only infracted you once for the many times I've edited your posts. Many moderators would not be so generous, but I love this forum.

Perhaps you'd like to make a deal: I'll reverse your infraction if you promise not to post anymore warez links. However, if you DO post anymore, I'll give you two infractions. Deal?

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codelove && codeshare

What is the policy on torrent linking?

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455FE10422CA29C4933F95052B792AB2

That's something I'd feel obligated to edit out, so I'd rather it not go on. I'm trying to protect totse from becoming labeled as a filesharing website.

If you MUST trade torrent links, please post your AIM/MSN/Email and have people contact you that way; it makes my job easier and I really appreciate that.

I don't want to be too overbearing, but I don't want to let things slide.

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codelove && codeshare

What would be the point of that? 5 x 2 infractions would put me at 15...making it completely pointless, other then as a gesture.

Also, I'd like to know how posting warez links is "Using the board to organize criminal activity", probably not your fault (its limited as to what you can infract for isn't it?) But its fucking retarded.

Yeah, that's the closest thing.

I was offering to reverse your current infraction, putting you at zero points, and only giving you ten points if you happened to do it again. The offer stands, just let me know.

Though this probably isn't the best place for this discussion, I'd like to show that while I mean business, I'm willing to be reasonable.

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codelove && codeshare

Do not post torrent links if the torrent contains something illegal.

I'm not going to ever post 'warez' but I think torrent links and their legality is such a grey area.

Also are keygens completely illegal? I'd imagine of all the things on the net they are the only ones I'd think are pure trouble (besides child pornography and illegal goods, including drugs, trade). With music, video, computer applications you could argue you were making a backup of something you already legally own. With e-books I'd argue you can lend the same books from a local library free of charge. But with a keygen although made and distributed free of charge they exist only to make a workable key for someone...unless you slanted that you lost the original key, or it was for 'educational' purposes.

If your going by that, then links to warez should not be against the rules, as posting links to warez is perfectly legal, hosting the actual files is illegal.
Linking or indexing links to the warez files is perfectly legal.

Gotcha.

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455FE10422CA29C4933F95052B792AB2

So if I say:

Will I get my 10 infraction points?

I agree, really, since warez is one of the only actual crimes that we can conduct by working together here. All the other 'crimes' can remain theoretical.

Looks fine to me.

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codelove && codeshare

I'm not sure if violating copyright is an actual crime, like shoplifting a videogame. One is theft and the other is violation of copyright. Piracy is not stealing, as there are no direct victims.

Besides which, totse would not be liable for any incidental use of it's servers for transmission of copyrighted material, according to the DMCA, so long as they remove such material when properly notified by the copyright holders. That's how rapidshare, etc, get away with the things they do.

This is just another instance of a moderator assuming ownership and proprietary responsibility of a forum. Really not cool in my opinion.

It's the moderators discretion what goes on in the forum. Hacks and cracks technically belong in networking, piracy might fit best in bad ideas... If jeff really wants discussions of piracy he could make a new forum for it...

Last time I check no "illegal" files are/have been/being hosted on totse's servers.
Also if your so worried about piracy being illegal and such, how come you have (if I remember correctly) the AACS encryption key in your...(location slot? wtf is that spot called?)

Nothing illegal about a link, but I'm not in charge, so what ever.

If totse can be held accountable for the actions of its users then AT&T should be held responsible for all the weed i buy.

And theres my two cents.

Totse does not have common carrier status.

whats the policy on posting a link to a torrent site, and hypothetically suggesting some things they might want to look up.

No direct link to any specific torrents, just to the website as a whole.