I have a question..

[Hawk705]

Why are there even any Christians on totse?



Totse talks about the baddest things like drugs,sex violence,guns and how to make bombs and all kinds of shit..


Why would a Christian even want to be here?

[Anirak]

Originally Posted by Hawk705

Why are there even any Christians on totse?



Totse talks about the baddest things like drugs,sex violence,guns and how to make bombs and all kinds of shit..


Why would a Christian even want to be here?

Because they can compartmentalize and get on here to discuss killing babies, and then wake up the next morning and go to church.

I used to be a christian for 18 years, then as of February I gave it up. I still posted on totse well before then.

[Hawk705]

Originally Posted by Anirak

Because they can compartmentalize and get on here to discuss killing babies, and then wake up the next morning and go to church.

I used to be a christian for 18 years, then as of February I gave it up. I still posted on totse well before then.

I was a Christian all my life..But I gave it up at the beginning of the year..


It's such a relief to not having to worry about not going to hell..


Now all that shit doesn't even make sense..

[Anirak]

Originally Posted by Hawk705

I was a Christian all my life..But I gave it up at the beginning of the year..


It's such a relief to not having to worry about not going to hell..


Now all that shit doesn't even make sense..

It still makes sense to me, but I just don't believe it anymore. I understand why I believed it, and I think I understand why others believe in it - so it still makes sense.

As for not going to hell... it is a relief - but also it is a relief to be free from the mental chains that religion creates on any level (be it abstinence, bigotry, etc.)

[Hawk705]

Originally Posted by Anirak

It still makes sense to me, but I just don't believe it anymore. I understand why I believed it, and I think I understand why others believe in it - so it still makes sense.

As for not going to hell... it is a relief - but also it is a relief to be free from the mental chains that religion creates on any level (be it abstinence, bigotry, etc.)

Yeah religion does create mental chains.. Speaking of abstinence; remember going to church and seeing this one group that goes to different churchs and speaks to teens about abstinence.. haha talk about nerds..they had a video made that showed how this whole dudes life was ruined because he didn't wait till marriage..


Ha and they to much tv is bad..

If you were afraid of going to hell then you apparently were not Christian. It was either that or your church had some glaringly unsound doctrine. Christianity is based on the premise that faith is a gift given by the death and ressurection of christ for the sin of the world, the grace of God, that saves all men. Now this is what sets Christianity apart from all other religions in the world, grace. So ... if you are just now unafraid of hell then I do not think you were in a Christian church, and if you were then they were poorly misspoken. I feel no mental chains that are being spoken of here. I can think just the same as anyone else. Of course my presuppositions will be changed, but as for reaching an intelligent conclusion, I believe I am as able as any. As for the initial question, I am simply here in order to present the other side of the coin. It seems that most of the people here largely doubt God, especially the Christian God, so I figure I might as well answer as many questions as I can.

i was fairly sure i was a Christian. Then i starting reading in this forum. Now I'm fairly agnostic, but i still live the same way, cause i didn't really practice. I keep my moral and ethical beliefs however because i picked those up before i started knowing anything about Christianity. I didn't even go to church until i was 12 anyway.

[easeoflife22]

God is a creation of the mind, not in reality. However, in death, your creation may become your reality and you'll wish you'd never created it, especially if your planning on having you body pumped full of formaldehyde and preserved like most. Christianity by default creates guilt in ones conscious whether forgiven or not, and thats a terrible thing to face in death.

[Rolloffle]

...because Christianity (contrary to popular belief) isn't really about being good.

It's more about God knowing that we are incapable of being good all or even most of the time, and loving us for what we are instead of hating us for our sins.

If you lived a happy happy life till your 25 and then you choose to intentionally murder 5000 people and then you laugh about it and then you get killed very quickly....

I don't think you just dissapear into thin air of non-existance till the end of time. There must be some way that you get that pain and suffering you caused right back at you. Thus there must be an afterlife.

But sure, you can ignore this "balance" and say so what if he killed 5000 people, its allright. It sucks that they died.. meh, its the families and friends of the 5000's fault that they are mourning about their deaths. Why mourn over others right? so pointless. Who cares if they died, us humans are such a tiny tiny part of the entire universe that it doesnt matter at all.

Reincarnation offers a balance, so does afterlife, heaven and hell. Christianity supports this "heaven and hell" and its why people choose to believe.