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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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# 1

2007-06-19, 03:32
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what do you guys think
ok i have this friend, well actually i just hired him so he is a employee,but anyways his roomate just got sent to prison for 5 years for supposedly touching his girlfriends daughter in places where a 36 year old man should not be touching a 11 year old girl,But the story i got from my friend is that the guy didnt do anything,that the girls real dad got her to make it all up in order to get him out of the picture,the guy took the 5 years because from what he says is because he is a convicted felon,he did 7 years for armed robbery when he was younger and said that he was looking at 25 years if he was found guilty,he didnt think his chances were good witha jury because of his record,so he pleaded out.......now i dont know about you,but i would sit in prison for the rest of my life fighting for my innocence before i would plead guilty to something i didnt do...expecially something like that what are your thoughts on this....was it smart to take the five instead of possibly getting 25,or would you(like me) refuse to do that and take your chances as a innocent man?
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# 2

2007-06-19, 03:40
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Acolyte
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click the fat man's torso >>
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Re: what do you guys think
Spending even a year behind bars is hard to comprehend, I think. I totally see your point, but I don't know if I'd do it... All the more power to you, though, if you could tough it out. I don't think I could handle it.
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# 3

2007-06-19, 03:43
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Re: what do you guys think
so instead you would rather be known as a child molestor for the rest of your life?having to register as a sex offender?prison is hard,but to have to live the rest of your life with that over your head.....either way your life is fucked,but id like to think id fight and at least spend my life in prison knowing i did all i could,rather than admit to being a child molestor when i know im not
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# 4

2007-06-19, 04:20
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Ohio
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Re: what do you guys think
You're assuming that he really is innocent. Of course, this friend of his would claim his innocence. And he definitely would want to claim it as well. I think odds are he did do it, and is trying to have some amount of a life to return to when he gets out.
Also, I don't think S&A is the right place for this. Humanities would be more appropriate, IMO.
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# 5

2007-06-19, 04:42
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Re: what do you guys think
I would -never- EVER -ever- take a plea on any sort of sexual assault. I would rather face 25 years depending on the jury's decision then a single day on a plea.
Not only are you a sexual predator, and marred for life as such. You cant live anywhere near a school, have anything to do with children, god forbid you reproduce. And your shame is publically broadcasted over several mediums. Even on a personal level, your honor is completely tattered.
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# 6

2007-06-19, 04:54
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halifax nova scotia canada
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Re: what do you guys think
Call him mint jelly cuz he should go on the Lamb.
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# 7

2007-06-19, 05:41
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Valhalla
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Re: what do you guys think
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Originally Posted by SilentMind
I would -never- EVER -ever- take a plea on any sort of sexual assault. I would rather face 25 years depending on the jury's decision then a single day on a plea.
Not only are you a sexual predator, and marred for life as such. You cant live anywhere near a school, have anything to do with children, god forbid you reproduce. And your shame is publically broadcasted over several mediums. Even on a personal level, your honor is completely tattered.
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Once again, I agree with you.
You'd have better luck against a judge than a jury though. A jury is usually emotional and hates child molesters, whereas a judge will be able to realize it's the kid's word against the stepdads, and a good lawyer will get him off the hook.
If all the evidence they have is the kid's word, I'd suggest looking at an appeal. Appeal on the grounds that his council was incompetent previously, and he was not represented fairly, etc.
Fuck, if I knew I was going to prison for child molestation, I'd swim to fucking brazil.
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# 8

2007-06-19, 05:55
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Re: what do you guys think
this has probably been said but i didnt read any of the post.
if the story is true, that guy has been in prison before, he is probably not desparate to get back, so rather than spending the rest of his youth in jail, he decided to go for the 5 year sentence. His track record is fucking horrible, if he really didn't do it, he should convince friends to prove his innocence then sue the shit out of that father, and compensate those who helped him get out of prison.
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# 9

2007-06-19, 06:36
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Re: what do you guys think
Rock Spider now lol
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# 10

2007-06-19, 07:12
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Vancouver BC Canada
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Re: what do you guys think
I would never want to do 5 years at all especially for something I didn't do. It may not sound like much when you say it but think about being locked up every single hour of the day 7 days a week for one thousand eight hundred and twenty five days. Fuck that, I would fight it.
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#11
 2007-06-19, 08:22
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Re: what do you guys think
now i dont know about you,but i would sit in prison for the rest of my life fighting for my innocence before i would plead guilty to something i didnt do...expecially something like that what are your thoughts on this....was it smart to take the five instead of possibly getting 25,or would you(like me) refuse to do that and take your chances as a innocent man?
Well, the thing is...
he is a convicted felon,he did 7 years for armed robbery when he was younger and said that he was looking at 25 years if he was found guilty...
...he doesn't have the same illusions about the system as you do. There are no innocent parties under $100k. Period.
...now, that doesn't rule out doing 20 more years out of principle... but don't even fucking try to play like actually being innocent - or even having the evidence to prove it - means shit in a courtroom. Money. Lots of it. That's all there is. Period.
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#12
 2007-06-19, 12:08
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Re: what do you guys think
He's right, unfortunately.
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#13
 2007-06-19, 13:11
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Re: what do you guys think
well weather the guy actually did it or not,i dont know,i dont even know him,but my stance is the same, if your innocent,fight it...dont admit guilt for a lesser sentence,not on a child molesting charge.
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#14
 2007-06-19, 14:04
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Re: what do you guys think
I think if it really came down to it, and I was going to prison anyways, I'd just kill whoever made the charges against me and plead guilty to the murder. That way they would know I didn't molest the child.
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#15
 2007-06-19, 16:02
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Re: what do you guys think
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Originally Posted by SilentMind
I think if it really came down to it, and I was going to prison anyways, I'd just kill whoever made the charges against me and plead guilty to the murder. That way they would know I didn't molest the child.
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thats always a option i guess
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#16
 2007-06-19, 16:06
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Re: what do you guys think
He made the smart choice, but I don't think I'd be able to be smart about it.
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