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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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#1
 2007-06-19, 00:55
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What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Not a child molester, they're just attracted to kids. They resist their yucky urges. Assuming they resisted it I think I might have some respect for them, resisting ones urges takes lots of spirit and stuff.
What about you?
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#2
 2007-06-19, 00:59
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Honest, I'd try to help him, ie psychiatrist and as a foundation of support.
They are strong enough to resist the urges, so I should be strong enough to help him, even though I don't approve of his choices.
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 2007-06-19, 01:04
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
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Honest, I'd try to help him, ie psychiatrist and as a foundation of support.
They are strong enough to resist the urges, so I should be strong enough to help him, even though I don't approve of his choices.
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you dont choose to have an urge.
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#4
 2007-06-19, 01:14
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
they want to have sex... with children.
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#5
 2007-06-19, 02:18
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
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Originally Posted by King3x
Honest, I'd try to help him, ie psychiatrist and as a foundation of support.
They are strong enough to resist the urges, so I should be strong enough to help him, even though I don't approve of his choices.
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Are you going to take your recently outed self to counseling for being homosexual? I don't think so...
What would I do? Not bring my kids around him.
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#6
 2007-06-19, 02:54
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Tell them to get help. And kick fuck out of them if they refused.
I have a really big thing against kiddy fiddlers...A really big thing against them and I would have no problem, no regrets and no remorse if I kicked one to death.
Tell your buddy to get help dude...It's all good resisting urges now but one day it will get to be too much and bad shit will happen.
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#7
 2007-06-19, 03:02
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Well, at least I'd know why my LazyTown DVD's keep disappearing...
But seriously, I'd encourage (read: force) him/her to think about seeking psychiatric help. It's two thumbs up that he/she's resisting his/her urges now, but how long can that last? Humans are pretty basic creatures. If something gives our gherkin a tickle, we can only deny it for so long. Plus, bottling up sexual issues tends to lead to outbursts (often violent).
So yeah, send him/her to a shrink.
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#8
 2007-06-19, 03:08
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Eh, we all have taboo sexual fantasies. And I went through a phase where I was very attracted to preteens. Maybe not to the point where i'd sex them. But i'd definitely curl up and sleep naked with them.
But I never did anything about it. And it just went away after a while. I wouldnt really have a problem with a friend who was a pedophile. As long as he didnt do anything about it.
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#9
 2007-06-19, 03:13
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
You know, the psychiatrist isn't only a place for loonies.
It can be a place for someone to understand himself and perhaps help him deal with these urges.
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#10
 2007-06-19, 03:25
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
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they want to have sex... with children.
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Yes. Next time we'll learn what Zoophilia means.
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#11
 2007-06-19, 04:58
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
I would make him seek psychiatric help
I would also delete any myspace, and facebook accounts, so he doesn't get any ideas.
I can't give any specific information unless I know 1 how old he is 2 how young are the underaged poeple in question...
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#12
 2007-06-19, 07:29
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Oh, I dunno... a couple things come to mind... buy her/him a porn mag... introduce her/him to my friends' daughters...
...if he's worth it, put him/her down made 'n teach her/him what's up... ride 'n die for true family, fuck the rest...
...these are just a couple options that come to mind.
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#13
 2007-06-19, 07:49
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
I would try to bear in mind that paedophiles are made not born, just like homosexuals and sadists. That no one really chooses their sexuality and that there but for the grace of God...
And just a thought to bear in mind, all censorship and control seems to start with the paedophiles.
Of course all 'right thinking' people think their ISP should automatically block paedo porn sites. [/sarcasm]
I hope that I don't have to say this to my grandkids:
"First they rounded up the paedophiles for treatment and everyone cheered. Then the terrorists , and everyone cheered. Then one night they came for the jews."
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#14
 2007-06-19, 07:57
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
ps i rather approve of this thread and am going to sticky it for abit.
Oh and SHH , I 've corrected your spelling for you as you had misspelt 'paedophile' in the title. No , no don't thank me...just doing my job.
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#15
 2007-06-19, 08:31
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Try get him to channel his urges into another slightly more legal and moral fetish?
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#16
 2007-06-19, 09:54
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
If he was a pedophile but resisting his urges, I might have more respect for him than if he didnt. I would try to help him though, but I wouldnt know how.
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#17
 2007-06-19, 11:32
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
One of my good friend's best friend WAS a pedo. The guy molested my friend's little sister. It messed him up emotionally/mentally for ages (By that I mean, I think he's still dealing with it, even though this happened years ago).
I think I'd be supportive and suggest help, but I would probably slowly grow away from the person. *Shrug*
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#18
 2007-06-19, 11:41
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
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Originally Posted by Kimness
One of my good friend's best friend WAS a pedo. The guy molested my friend's little sister. It messed him up emotionally/mentally for ages (By that I mean, I think he's still dealing with it, even though this happened years ago).
I think I'd be supportive and suggest help, but I would probably slowly grow away from the person. *Shrug*
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Uhm he still is. There is no 'cure' for paedophilia. Its a sexuality deemed deviant by society and is no different to being gay.
You can only decide to NOT do the things you feel compelled to do, ie not be a predatory paedophile. I assume by your 'WAS' you meant that?
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#19
 2007-06-19, 12:46
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Uhm he still is. There is no 'cure' for paedophilia. Its a sexuality deemed deviant by society and is no different to being gay.
You can only decide to NOT do the things you feel compelled to do, ie not be a predatory paedophile. I assume by your 'WAS' you meant that?
...actually, if one believes her own government, even that description might not neccesarily fit...
only 45 (ie. 14.8% of the total) had "been identified as paedophiles or suspected paedophiles, with all the classic indicators".
Teh Senate of Oz (http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/acc_ctte/completed_inquiries/pre1996/ncapedo/report/c02.htm#note66)
...so unless she's got something to go on other than "raped the weakest thing around," not only "he was a pedo, but he got better," but even "he was ped," that's innacurate. Or maybe he is. There's still no way to know, unless he's mentioning preferential sexual orientation.
...kinda like prison rape like that. ~shrug~ Sooo... I guess there needs to be a new term for "sexuality unknown" or somesuch...
{/me reminds self to stop posting when tired, but posts anyways...}
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#20
 2007-06-19, 15:10
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Bullshit. If he can restrain urges, he can restrain them. Otherwise, he can't. A psychologist (much like a degenerate psychiatrist) can't fix that. If we are looking at 10 year olds, that's pretty bad, but whether people want to admit it or not once they are pubescent (sometimes as young as 10 even) it is perfectly natural. In fact, it is unnatural to avoid them. Obviously, still not a good idea (legality and the subject emotional fragility, though it is the fault of society they are not more able to deal with such things), but it must be kept in mind that we are biologically designed to approach that kind of thing.
You know what the cure for us was? Accept it and move on. Don't focus on it, that is like the whole "Don't think of a white bear" thing - the only way to not think of that bear is to focus on something else. People should have more than one potential fetish available (one of the relatively more effective cures in Psychology is just that, taking all that sexual energy and focusing it on something else). We fucking laughed about it and cracked jokes and pick on the alleged pedophile, no one makes a serious big deal about it so it never really developed as a subject. Now any pedophile I know has way better shit to think about. Shit they can get.
It may be fucked up, yes, I know how fucked up it makes kids. Just look at people who were molested when they were younger, they have problems that are downright upsetting. Nonetheless, persecuting people who did not choose to be who they are won't accomplish shit. We need to keep the children in mind (big focus on the prepubescent because that is far worse, still the early teens too, though) but remember this is not a choice, it is caused largely by repression, the stigma makes it worse, and there is a degree of naturalness to it. So don't be a douchebag and try to come up with a rational moderate solution.
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#21
 2007-06-19, 15:45
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
I'd tell them that they had better not comment on kids while I'm around, I'd find it too disturbing. I'd also let them know that I'm there for them if they needs to talk to someone, incase their urges get out of hand.
If a pretty mother walks by pushing a stroller, I don't want to hear about the sexy baby.
If they aren't acting on it, and don't see any time in the future where they would act on it, then I don't see an issue. I wouldn't have any special respect for their choice not to sexually abuse kids; that's like respecting someone for not going to jail or not beating women.
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#22
 2007-06-19, 16:13
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Bullshit. If he can restrain urges, he can restrain them. Otherwise, he can't. A psychologist (much like a degenerate psychiatrist) can't fix that. If we are looking at 10 year olds, that's pretty bad, but whether people want to admit it or not once they are pubescent (sometimes as young as 10 even) it is perfectly natural. In fact, it is unnatural to avoid them. Obviously, still not a good idea (legality and the subject emotional fragility, though it is the fault of society they are not more able to deal with such things), but it must be kept in mind that we are biologically designed to approach that kind of thing.
QFT
As even a top policeman here in the UK argued recently. Paedophilia is what the name says 'paedo' = children = pre-puberty.
And let us not forget that half the boys here think a totally shaved cunny is t3h H4wtn3ss!!11..and most of them seemed to want it covered by boy shorts...which is really kinda worrying.
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#23
 2007-06-19, 17:22
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Someone I work with gets his jollies from kiddie stuff he finds on the web, I know because he's not very good at covering his tracks and is frankly quite stupid to use a shared network.
I think he has an idea that I know because I've taken the opportunity to fuck with his mind a few times.
Thing is do you destroy a persons life by exposing him for doing something that most men (if they are truly honest) have been curious about.......I mean even I have looked just to see what all the fuss is about! But that doesn't make me a kiddie fiddler.
Perhaps some men/women look for the extremes because there is no shock factor left in everyday pr0n
Prior to the accessibility of pr0n on the on the interweb to see an erect willie was considered shocking and certainly not in your average top shelf magazine.
Such a dilema!
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#24
 2007-06-19, 20:26
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Well, I probably wouldn't befriend them seeing as I'm a young female and even if I wasn't a target at least one of my other friends would be. :)
Edit: If this is a serious question and I was to set up a scenario in which I was bestfriends with them I would ask for them to not openly display pedophilia towards myself or any of my other friends. I mean, if they're 20 and their target is 16 then that's not so bad, but a wide span age ranged pedophile, 40 years and 13, would probably break apart our friendship
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#25
 2007-06-19, 20:39
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
It's all good resisting urges now but one day it will get to be too much and bad shit will happen.
With the same logic, I could justify beating you to death for lusting after women. It's just a matter of time before you rape one!
Yawn.
I honestly wouldn't give a shit unless he harmed someone. Whacking off to children's bathing suit catalogues doesn't harm anyone who isn't looking to be offended. Eat shards of glass if you want something to bitch about
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#26
 2007-06-19, 20:57
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
I agree like the majority of fetishes it not realli avoidabe everyone probably has a sexual deviance as long as they dont cause ne harm to anyone i'd have no problems.Though I think being young and vunerable myself would be tempting fate if i befriended them I guess it depends if i felt threatened but personally i probably wouldnt care.
I'm happy to see that the majority of ppl r open minded enough not to say retarded things like 'p3dOs sHuD DIe' heres to a better understanding of the mind.
=]
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#27
 2007-06-19, 23:32
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
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Eh, we all have taboo sexual fantasies. And I went through a phase where I was very attracted to preteens. Maybe not to the point where i'd sex them. But i'd definitely curl up and sleep naked with them.
But I never did anything about it. And it just went away after a while. I wouldnt really have a problem with a friend who was a pedophile. As long as he didnt do anything about it.
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Listen to this guy. Chill out people.
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#28
 2007-06-21, 08:30
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
I would end our friendship because i plan to have children and wouldnt want the person near them, after helping them seek psychiatric help of course. Other then that the only thing i could think of is kill them in their sleep and put them out of their misery.
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 2007-06-21, 10:10
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
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I would end our friendship because i plan to have children and wouldnt want the person near them, after helping them seek psychiatric help of course. Other then that the only thing i could think of is kill them in their sleep and put them out of their misery.
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*shudders*
There was a time not so long ago when homosexuality was considered a psychiatric condition.
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#30
 2007-06-21, 13:37
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
i found underage porn on my friend's PC...i was a bit weirded out
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#31
 2007-06-21, 14:38
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Nothing. It's not my fucking business. I'd expect my 'friend' to thing the same if I were the pedophile.
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#32
 2007-06-21, 15:57
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Ignore it, and if later he/she did something, I would have to beat the shit out of them.
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#33
 2007-06-21, 16:47
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
id do the same if my friend turned out gay.
id just avoid any conversation of it.
n if they said like "look at that hot piece o meat" to a young lass, i would suggest they stfu.
basically id just avoid nay talk of it and still respect them.
if he raped kids thats a TOTALLY different matter. i mean if my friend raped a 23yr old girl id see it as just as bad.
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#34
 2007-06-21, 16:52
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
after doing some thinking on the subject, nobody chooses to be gay or chooses to be a pedo, etc etc. some things just naturally get you off. when they do, you have to be labeled as a sexual deviant.
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#35
 2007-06-21, 23:25
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
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I would end our friendship because i plan to have children and wouldnt want the person near them, after helping them seek psychiatric help of course. Other then that the only thing i could think of is kill them in their sleep and put them out of their misery.
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But then... would you end your friendship with any heterosexual male friends you have because one day they could assault your sister or daughters?
I don't have children yet, but if a good, trustworthy friend turned out to be a paedophile, though not acting on it, then I would trust them around my kids. No matter whether they are attracted to children, women or men in general, then a close friend's family should still be off limits. It seems unfair to assume that a paedophile will be more of a predator or devoid of morals just because of who they are attracted to.
I would have a lot of respect for someone who can face sexual urges and manage to resist them. I don't think I could cope with being celibate, or only having sex with a gender I'm not attracted to. I would also respect the fact that they confided in me, and try to support them, whether they just want comfort, someone to talk to or professional help.
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#36
 2007-06-22, 00:28
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
I'd be ok with it.
i love my best friend more than anything in the world, and if that's what she's into, they so be it - who am i to stop her as long as she isnt actually following thru w/ it.
however, if she actually was doing someone w/ little kids, i'd have to intervene...
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#37
 2007-06-22, 00:39
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
I'd tell my "best friend" to stop referring to himself in the third person. ;)
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 2007-06-22, 00:40
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
It seems unfair to assume that a paedophile will be more of a predator or devoid of morals just because of who they are attracted to.
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Perhaps! but to achieve his desires/needs whatever he would have to adopt the role of a predator..........The average six year old doesn't go clubbing and get her tits out for the boys at the drop of a condom. She has to be groomed/taught/cajoled into thinking its fine and dandy to suck grownups cocks.
think about it! The corruption of innocence is what these people are all about.
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 2007-06-22, 00:54
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
True, if they had acted on their desire. But since we were considering a scenario in which the paedophile was attracted to children but not actually doing anything about it, I don't see any reason not to trust them.
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 2007-06-22, 01:21
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Hmm, I'm 20 now and I sure have liked the 12-13 and over crowd for a long time. Granted the only time I had sex with a 12 OR 13 year old was when I was 13 myself.
But I sure may have rubbed it to 'young' porn semi-recently.
Anywho, since I'd never truly force sex on anything (not even a grapefruit) this means I'm correct right???
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 2007-06-22, 03:12
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
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True, if they had acted on their desire. But since we were considering a scenario in which the paedophile was attracted to children but not actually doing anything about it, I don't see any reason not to trust them.
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So then you would trust an unfulfilled self confessed arsonist with a can of petrol, a box of matches and the keys to your house!......I don't think so!
But you would trust an unfulfilled self confessed peadophile with a tube of KY gel, a box of sweeties and the keys to your daughters bedroom!........Yeah right!
"I don't see any reason not to trust them."...........I think Chamberlain said that about the Nazi's!
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#42
 2007-06-22, 03:16
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
i would do absolutely nothing
it is in my experience that people who are deviant sexually, socially or otherwise only really want to be left alone
they don't want to "talk about it" or "do anything about it" or be "accepted" or "psychoanalysed" or "helped" or "cured"
just left alone
doing anything else would be a betrayal
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#43
 2007-06-22, 11:31
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^^^^^^
And what "experience" would that be? or are we talking opinion here!
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 2007-06-22, 14:04
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
think about it! The corruption of innocence is what these people are all about.
You are speaking in the first person, I presume?
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 2007-06-22, 14:25
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Tell them to get help. And kick fuck out of them if they refused.
I have a really big thing against kiddy fiddlers...A really big thing against them and I would have no problem, no regrets and no remorse if I kicked one to death.
Tell your buddy to get help dude...It's all good resisting urges now but one day it will get to be too much and bad shit will happen.
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Read the Sun/Mirror much?
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 2007-06-22, 18:16
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
Other then that the only thing i could think of is kill them in their sleep and put them out of their misery.
How is taking a life any better than someone who has only thought about paedophilia? In some countries, murder will get you the death penalty, yet you would argue your case and expect to be exempt from the law.
Every person on this planet as probably done something or thought about doing something at one point that is considered wrong or evil by society and anyone who says otherwise, probably thinks there name is Jesus. That is what pisses me off the most about people, everyone is a two faced bastard who thinks they have a clear sense of right and wrong, and their version is the right one.
If 13+ year olds were never supposed to fuck, then why does nature allow them to procreate? Now I know this thread is more about pre-pubescent kids, but still, that example there as to make you stop and think, that maybe we are not always right, so that said. How do you justify paedophilia as being worse than any other crime and deserving of death? Just because a person likes to look at kids without actually touching a kid, does not mean he deserve to be kicked to death or killed in his sleep.
In addition, before you say that just looking at kids is how it starts, that is not completely correct most paedophiles suffered sexual abuse themselves and for all you know half the population get off to child porn without ever hurting a child, you just never hear about it, because obviously they never do anything but look.
Sorry I just needed a good rant.
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 2007-06-22, 19:13
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Re: What would you do if your best friend was a pAedophile?
I find this assumption that a paedophile must be a weak man who can't defend himself against this oh-so-righteous kicking amusing.
Paedos are men (usually) like all other men. Some weak, some strong and some so fucking psychotic that they'll tear your arm off and beat you death with the bleeding stump.
A persons sexual preference tells you nothing about how hard or dangerous they are.
I grew up in the late 70's with the stereotypical view of homosexuals...you know, that they are weak, camp and wear dresses.
Imagine my shock when I first read that Ronnie Kray was gay.
SO
Unless you're Chuck Norris, quit with the 'I'd beat the crap outta him' routine.
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