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Old 2007-06-18, 16:07
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Does anyone know the process for extracting safrole from nutmeg? Thank you to anyone who can help.
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Old 2007-06-18, 19:50
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Don't know about netmeg...I don't like the taste...I prefer some finey grinded black pepper...
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Old 2007-06-18, 20:49
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I think its a complicated process. You'll probably have to distill the powdered nutmeg into oil first then work on extracting the safrole from the oil. Thats a guess though I dont know shit about extracting safrole.

http://www.dq.fct.unl.pt/qoa/bpn2002/safrole/3E.htm
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=13452
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Old 2007-06-19, 01:45
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Does anyone know the process for extracting safrole from nutmeg? Thank you to anyone who can help.
Granny's right, it'd be easier to synth from benzodioxole than it would to isolate safrole...

...if you just want "technical-grade allylbenzene crap," recrystallization of the trimyristic acid from an ethanol or acetone extraction, followed by a gentle warming, shoud get a half-decent mix of safrole/tmab/myristicin.

...if you wanna clean that up, you'll probably have to go lightly apeshit with fractional distillation under vacum, 'n a little chromatography of the results. 'n even then, there's a good chance that your seperation will be... partial.

Me, I'd roll lazy, work with "generic allylbenzene crap" and chromatograph the alkaloids at the end... or, better yet, if you're rollin' all "safrole-only"... find a different source, dude. Like... coffee. Or, anise, if you can get rid of PMMA/PMAB. Or... sassafras.

...but... hey. If you don't mind a minor psychedelic lacing, I suppose nutmeg could work.
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Old 2007-06-19, 08:18
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The leftover shit would probably still be healthier then the other bullshit you tend to get in street eccies, anyway. Fucking PMA...

But you're not one of those unethical bastards, are you? Doesn't care what is actually in it as long as your customers keep buying and thinking they're getting good, straight MDMA?

I thoroughly dislike those people. They give a bad name to drug chemists everywhere. A big one got snapped up a little while ago, the biggest meth cook in australia, had his own syndicate and everything. Crazy fucker. Apparently one of the labs had 3kg of straight pse in it...
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Old 2007-06-19, 13:47
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TMA is the way to go...
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Old 2007-06-19, 13:51
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The leftover shit would probably still be healthier then the other bullshit you tend to get in street eccies, anyway. Fucking PMA...
Ahh, PMA... I hear the "high" is better if you cut it with moclobemide!!!

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But you're not one of those unethical bastards, are you? Doesn't care what is actually in it as long as your customers keep buying and thinking they're getting good, straight MDMA?
Me? I'm presuming that you're talking to me, since I'm the one that mentioned nutmeg leftovers...

...nah. If I was, the word "chromatography" wouldn't have entered my post. I come from the psychedelic school of thought; cleanliness is godliness...

...instead, I'm the guy that doesn't tweak, but tells their tweaker friends to lick the bag 'n tell me if it just tastes bitter (recrystallized), or if they can taste the chlorine (evap w/dirt). 'n then I suggest that they should get a better chemist...

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I thoroughly dislike those people. They give a bad name to drug chemists everywhere. A big one got snapped up a little while ago, the biggest meth cook in australia, had his own syndicate and everything. Crazy fucker. Apparently one of the labs had 3kg of straight pse in it...
Meh. I have an irrational disrespect for 'phed cooks... mostly, from answering questions. People who ask silly questions like "what should I consider in the synthesis of dimethyl cupric lithium?" have at least done a bit of reading... people who ask "how much phosphorous is in a matchead, and how many matches should I add," usually haven't.

~sigh~

...one of the lesser cases in this forum, actually, revolved around the slightly-more-respectable birch... "how many lithium strips should I use."

~rolls eyes~ Have you thought about WEIGHING them?!?!? ~grumble grumble~

...anyways... I'm babbling now. I should be off to sleep...
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Old 2007-06-19, 15:20
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I'm just plagued by idiots in nearly every other forum I go on, and every cook I know in real life is a fucking idiot who is working off what he was taught by another cook. There's only 1 real, good-attitude drug chemist in this city, and I've heard of him, and know a bunch of his mates but am yet to meet him...
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Old 2007-06-19, 15:55
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I'm just plagued by idiots in nearly every other forum I go on, and every cook I know in real life is a fucking idiot who is working off what he was taught by another cook. There's only 1 real, good-attitude drug chemist in this city, and I've heard of him, and know a bunch of his mates but am yet to meet him...
I have yet to meet ANYONE in real life who WASN'T some dumbass going from a recipe.
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Old 2007-06-23, 16:51
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Don't you also realize that there are other akaloids of interest in nutmeg (myristicin is one)?

Here's a better idea. Go to a dollar store. Read the front of some herbal medicines. Find one that says capsules, has a large number, and is cheap. Buy a bottle and fill all the capsules up with nutmeg. There. You've got safrole in easy to take pill form.
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