While I see no reason to forbid such pics/links, I would ask you NOT to [IMG] tag them. For reasons that should be obvious.

Just linky them (ie [url]), 'kay?

I don't want to see us lose the [IMG] tags.

Thank you.

..oh and btw , after the first posting such things tend to become somewhat boring and finally spam...and as you all know spamming gets you prizes and prizes equal points.

Get with the program.

i want prizes.

This was me asking nice and puurdy like.

We can do it the other way, don't much make no difference to me.

Its Not Dead Baby Its My Son And Is In Critical Condition And Im Just Grieving. Im Going To Teach My Son To Work On Computers

I love the way when you try to type too much all in caps it just capitalises the first letter of each word.

Anyway, those pictures are stupid.
If that was really your child you'd post the story of why, how and just..why. Not just post a picture that would confuse/horrify your average poster.

Post that stuff in SG again and I will be very upset!

Dude you're gay. Jackketch, unleash the cock of nigger upon this gabby swine.

Who the fuck lets a grieving mother hold a dead fetus.

I was feeling very fragile today, and it made me cry my eyes out

Are you arguing with the picture? you saying my baby dont exist?

Yeah it didn't exactly fill me with confidence for the Youth of America neither.

But Freedom Of Speech .... I just don't want it IMG tagged. Anyone who clicks on a totse linky gets all they deserve.

I get rid of these pictures whenever I notice them in HB, so I don't see why they'd be alright here.

ROFLMFAO!

Am I the only one here realizing this is OBVIOUSLY an amateurish photoshop?

Go have a drink wires and calm down.... whatever you do though don't turn on South Park, it may just completely push you over the edge.

Your insolence is noted.

The "reason" is because each forum is moderated by different mods with their own set of taste.

I wonder.....do any of the S & A mods chime in their 2 cents at HB, inquiring about YOUR mod style??????

My insolence should always be noted.

One of my co-mods may well decide otherwise but at the moment I don't see a reason to delete them, just change to a linky if necessary.

Unlike HB , we have a lot of big boys and girls who post here. Most of whom have probably seen corpses before.

I don't know what the American law is on horrific images so the super mods might need to clarify if we can even allow links to such pics.

I think they should be deleted immediately. I'm a delicate flower. :(

Euda, the phrase "so I don't see why they'd be alright here." could be understood two ways (at least to my alcohol addled brain), I probably picked the wrong option.Sorry.

Euda, Sorry.

No worries, my response obviously wasn't clear enough.

I don't see why they ought to be here... it just doesn't seem the place. I mean sure, if they are really pictures of someones child and they are truely grieving and wanting someone to vent to, then sure... but just posting shock/horrific pictures in here for the sake of horrifying/shocking people sounds like more of a "IFIOTW" thing or... Well hell, we have so many new subforums... what about a "this isn't MY dead baby, It's someone elses!" Forum!

Just kidding.

That sort of shit belongs in SG. There no reason to have this kind of crap in S&A. Delete it all and give infractions to who ever posts that garbage.

I dont find them offensive, just kind of sick and sad. Those are real people, out there somewhere.


Unfortunately, I cant remove those pictures in SG unless they become spam like in their numbers.

However, I can remove them in the other forums I moderate. :)

I guess it's up to you in this forum jackketch, you do seem to be the only mod who's here for much of the time, so your rules.


Whatever you decide I'll back you on it. For what that's worth.

I think they should be deleted immediately. I'm a delicate flower. :(Five posts have been made since this was posted, and not ONE of them mentioned deflowering?

To say I'm disappointed is an understatement.

http://www.entheogen.com/forum/images/smilies/Disappointed_anim.gif

http://www.entheogen.com/forum/images/smilies/Disappointed_anim.gif

I'm using that Gif as a wallpaper on my computer now.

Several thousand angry heads all shaking their heads at me in dissapointment and disgust. Really good for the ego.

I admit I was somewhat taken aback that the thread I created turned into something so bad.

I actually know a woman who gave birth to a dead baby and then took pictures of it. She spends hours every day sitting on the baby's grave and crying her eyes out while flipping through her photo album of pictures...All taken after the baby was dead. It makes you think, you know? To see how deep her grief has wounded her and then to think that there are a lot of folks out there who find that stuff funny.

It happened about 3 months ago.

I've never known anyone else who took pictures of people after they were dead.

Alright, I'm gonna try to make this as short as possible.....but I really want to make a few points here. After what I'm about to say, I don't want anyone walking away mistakenly believing that I think MY mindset should be the ONLY way to look at this scenario....but hopefully it will have some weight in this discussion.

The point is I may be the only poster in here that has actually held their own dead baby in their arms. That's right, we lost our son to SIDS just before turning 4 months old. I won't go into much detail, because I've already discussed some of this on this thread....

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=1995197

To summarize.....I don't care how badass or hardcore someone is (and yeah I put myself in that category) once you've held your own dead baby in your arms it shakes you to your entire core. Everything else is insignificant in life, and it takes YEARS of grieving to finally find any sense of normalcy. Its been less than 2 for our family and we are still struggling. Any parents reading this....just remember how great it was those first few weeks/months that your newborn started really smiling at you. Not just a gassy smile, but a real smile because he/she is so happy to be in your arms. Now imagine just 4 hours later having a corpse to hold onto. Fuck yeah it hurts... so much you'll break down and cry uncontrollably 6 months later just walking past the baby department in Kmart.

The whole reason I tried describing all of that to you just now is to make the point yet again that THERE IS NO WAY THESE PHOTOS ARE REAL! If you look at the first photo of mom and dad with that "awwwwww" expression in their eyes...take it from me that is NOT a genuine emotion/look/expression or anything else. Its photoshopped, plain and simple. The kicker should have been when the fuckin thing was hanging from the back of a computer. But here we are on this nonsensical debate about modding, censorship, decency....blah blah, fucking BLAH ad nauseum.

Everyone just LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP!

Its a GODDAMN JOKE!

Hell, after what I've endured I could get the humor out of it. This is no different than any other smart ass poster putting up a bogus pic in one of these threads.

It's just like someone posting a pic of the Washington Monument in the "How big is your hard-on" thread. ITS A FUCKING JOKE!

Or posting a pic of Mr T. in the "Post a pic of yourself" thread. ITS A FUCKING JOKE!

Or someone posting a pic of Will Smith in a "My hot girlfriend/pics" thread. ITS A FUCKING JOKE!

This is the internet folks, and especially TOTSE! Quit trying to shove your sense of morality, or decency, or what you deem being tasteful down everyone else's throat. You don't like it, say to yourself..."ewwwwwwww gross", click the fuckin back button and move on. But quit trying to make it something more than what it is, or some kind of nonsensical in-forum political football to make whatever point about modding and decency.

I've not seen the photo they speak of here, nor do I feel the need to.

But personally, I get sick of hearing the "this is totse" crap.

Maybe, I'm just too old to be here anymore.

Of ALL the things on these boards....if you are telling us that THIS TOPIC is what you are going to use as your "excuse" to exit the premises....


.......then just GTFO!!!!!

Hell, I'll hold the door open for ya.........

Why should we belive your story and not belive me?
Look does this look fake? that is MY handhttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/demik_2007/l_3cbb5dd4782620ab93d38ee3c7bcb98e.jpg

Why should we belive your story and not belive me?
Look does this look fake? that is MY hand http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/demik_2007/l_3cbb5dd4782620ab93d38ee3c7bcb98e.jpg

Go fuck yourself. Seriously, it's obvious that you're just trying to make us look at someone's aborted kid. Nobody appreciates it. What do you get from this but a cheap laugh and a ban? (If Jackketch will do us all a favor, that is.)

I've had a bad day.
I need a hug. :(

Why should we belive your story and not belive me?

Of course, everybody names their photos with things like l_3cbb5dd4782620ab93d38ee3c7bcb98e.jpg.

It isn't the picture that upsets people, it's the idea of a dead baby; the picture merely adds an illustration to an already disturbing concept. I would think that it's understandable.

Why should we belive your story and not belive me?
Look does this look fake? that is MY handhttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/demik_2007/l_3cbb5dd4782620ab93d38ee3c7bcb98e.jpg

A+++ for trolling. Look at all the shit you stirred up.

But continuing this charade of being the father is profoundly absurd!

What you probably are is some kidiot antisocial recluse, that just got through his first year of med school and has access to all kinds of freakish medical deformities. Bravo for picking a topic that you knew would rub quite a few folks the wrong way since "dead babies" is an automatic emotional dance on eggshells.

It doesn't mean a damn thing at who/what I am or if I'm totally full of shit. The last thing I'm going to try to do is prove my "legitimacy" to you or anyone else.

What does matter is that its this early in the summer and you are already so bored because you've exhausted every other means of recreation for the lack of having any REAL friends or life.......and here it is Friday afternoon/night, and this is how you are spending it. At your age you should be out partying and getting laid, but this is the best you could do for the weekend......

.....and for that you exponentially PHAIL!

I've not seen the photo they speak of here, nor do I feel the need to.

But personally, I get sick of hearing the "this is totse" crap.

Maybe, I'm just too old to be here anymore.

Sometimes I think I'm too old to be here too! We should start our own "old ladies" forum.:P

Of ALL the things on these boards....if you are telling us that THIS TOPIC is what you are going to use as your "excuse" to exit the premises....


.......then just GTFO!!!!!

Hell, I'll hold the door open for ya.........

Here's an idea, instead of being a fucking prick and throwing your weight around being shitty and rude to a well respected good poster, why dont you get the fuck off totse, and stay the fuck off.


Piece of shit mother fucker. You fucking suck.

FragginNoobsInColumbine, I asked you real polite and puurdy NOT to IMG tag such pics.

Either get with the program or GTFOS&A.

The whole reason I tried describing all of that to you just now is to make the point yet again that THERE IS NO WAY THESE PHOTOS ARE REAL! If you look at the first photo of mom and dad with that "awwwwww" expression in their eyes...take it from me that is NOT a genuine emotion/look/expression or anything else. Its photoshopped, plain and simple. The kicker should have been when the fuckin thing was hanging from the back of a computer. But here we are on this nonsensical debate about modding, censorship, decency....blah blah, fucking BLAH ad nauseum.

They're real, I can assure you. They were posted on a serious forum a number of years back and spread across the internet since. The one of it hanging out the back of a computer is a piss-take of an internet meme, that is obviously photoshopped. If you look at it you'll see that it's the exact same angle as the picture where the child's held in its mother's arms, it's been cropped from that. The rest are real.

Jack, if you state that you don't want those pictures posted in [IMG] tags and the poster continues to break the rules, you can punish them for breaking forum-specific rules that they were made aware of. Other mods have done the same thing. Just a thought, in case he keeps it up.

not even tags. this isnt some fucking joke forum. if you post pictures like that you should get a ban or an infraction. end of story.

theres plenty of forums where that type of shit is tolerated. S&A is its own little community and that is only upheld by seriousness and consideration. crap like this will turn this forum into a SG with sex topics.

I must admit, my girlfriend and I were in stitches looking at fraggin's posts in Xiao's thread. I think people are just overly sensitive.

Here's an idea, instead of being a fucking prick and throwing your weight around being shitty and rude to a well respected good poster, why dont you get the fuck off totse, and stay the fuck off.


Piece of shit mother fucker. You fucking suck.

Gimme a fuckin break! So I'm supposed to leave because I'm not condoning censorship or falling into the nonsense of some moron that is making the subtle "threat" of themselves leaving (as if S & A, and all of Totse is going to crumble at their departure)? It seems to me you have just as much an over inflated ego as they do thinking that the message of...."well if this is allowed to stay, then I'm outta here" means anything in the least to everyone else.

Why don't you go diddle your fuckin guinea pig, and shove your self-righteous smarmy drivel right up its ass. Don't you have enough problems tripping overself while bungling your own modding job.....instead of trying to "defend the good name" of other posters? Sure, like YOUR vouching for anyone on here is any level of credibility.

Personally, I give great props to Jack for letting this stand. He IS allowing it to play its course, and has the balls to allow it in HIS forum to give it whatever life it deserves. 90% of the other Totse mods would have either posted this to B & M, or moved the original thread there. Instead he has the sense to understand that issues/controversy that was originated in a certain section should in fact be settled in the SAME section....and not just swept under the rug or left for someone else to clean up. Kudos to him for not taking the "easy" way out.

And trust me, there is A LOT about Jack's views and ideologies that I don't agree with. I'm not giving him a pat on the back here to suck up or win brownie points. For instance, we are on absolute polar opposites in regard to the abortion issue. But no matter how often or how passionately I disagree with Jack's viewpoints on certain topics, I can still respect how he conducts himself as a mod. You see that is how mature ADULTS operate.... they can look past old differences and not hold some petty grudge because someone else holds a different set of values or sense of morality. What's right is right, and in this particular instance Jack is 100% dead on.

You on the other hand are wandering the boards with your tattered self-esteem playing some Totse 90210 game.....where once you don't like someone (or their opinion) you find EVERYTHING they post to be wrong. And if one of your "buddies" is acting like a whiney idiot, you'll defend them to the very end no matter how assinine their stance may be. Just GROW THE FUCK UP ALREADY!

They're real, I can assure you. They were posted on a serious forum a number of years back and spread across the internet since. The one of it hanging out the back of a computer is a piss-take of an internet meme, that is obviously photoshopped. If you look at it you'll see that it's the exact same angle as the picture where the child's held in its mother's arms, it's been cropped from that. The rest are real.


Just to clarify, I do understand the fetus is real and the pics of its face, hands, and all the other stuff are legitimate. I do question the "posing" of it though.

And lets face it, there is one thing that is completely OBVIOUS..... the person that posted these on THIS forum is certainly not the father. So yeah, it was just their attempts at humor (no matter how twisted) in posting a bogus pic under the "Post pics of your kids" thread.

bla bla bla

I'm not going to bother with your semantics. My opinion has been voiced in a clear manner.

I'm not going to bother with your semantics. My opinion has been voiced in a clear manner.

Of course your not! Just like in the rest of Totse, as soon as your fat mouth gets you into shit that you can't handle you RUN the fuck away like the snivelling coward that you are.

Face it yoyo....your credibility on these boards is absolutely comical, and you act like a pissy 8 year old at the playground having a little temper tantrum after discovering your usual play buddy found someone else to hang out with.

Some day you may get it....... but until then all you have is your pseudo sense of importance because your a mod, your mangy guinea pig, and a profound level of stupidity that is only overshadowed by your lack of maturity or reason.

jack, why do you still bother? if the motherfucker doesn't want to understand, smite him with the goddamn banhammer.

Of course your not! Just like in the rest of Totse, as soon as your fat mouth gets you into shit that you can't handle you RUN the fuck away like the snivelling coward that you are.

Face it yoyo....your credibility on these boards is absolutely comical, and you act like a pissy 8 year old at the playground having a little temper tantrum after discovering your usual play buddy found someone else to hang out with.

Some day you may get it....... but until then all you have is your pseudo sense of importance because your a mod, your mangy guinea pig, and a profound level of stupidity that is only overshadowed by your lack of maturity or reason.

Just stop it already. If you don't like her, just don't respond...You don't have to be so awful and go on and on and ON in such an insulting manner. Outcast and yoyobek are great posters who's posts and opinions are always interesting to many of us here. YOUR posts on the other hand mainly consist of talking about how "badass" you are and insulting other people. You also like to beat a dead horse with your opinion if anyone ever disagrees with you LONG after you should've just let the point drop.

Seriously, learn to let it go or just go away.

Hmm....what could we name it?

We could even be mod's. I'm sure that forum would be jam packed. :P

Would I be allowed to drop in? It sounds like it'd be peaceful in there.

Would I be allowed to drop in? It sounds like it'd be peaceful in there.

Ya think?!

You don't know too many menopausal women, now do you, boy? :P

Would you promise to keep us very very happy?

Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me... Aren't you?

:p

Just stop it already. If you don't like her, just don't respond...You don't have to be so awful and go on and on and ON in such an insulting manner. Outcast and yoyobek are great posters who's posts and opinions are always interesting to many of us here. YOUR posts on the other hand mainly consist of talking about how "badass" you are and insulting other people. You also like to beat a dead horse with your opinion if anyone ever disagrees with you LONG after you should've just let the point drop.

Seriously, learn to let it go or just go away.

ROFLMFAO! This week on another episode of Totse 90210......

Well obviously you are only paying attention to SOME of my posts and ignoring all the rest. Newsflash for ya.....I don't "like" or "dislike" anyone on here, its all text on a fuckin screen to me. I do recognize however, that some folks have a history of being more rational than others....yet I'm not "keeping score" about how idiotic one person's opinion on a certain topic was one day, and then holding it against them on every other thread for as long as I post. No, I'll leave that up to the rest of the people with their "buddies" and "cliques".

Maybe you need to go reread the entire context of this thread (and try your best without bias) to see where I'm coming from. 0C6 posted her opinion about a phrase that I put up into my post, and made a comment about possibly leaving because of this thread and everything surrounding it. I responded pretty much scoffing at leaving over something this ridiculous....but notice I insulted her thought process, and did NOT resort to childish name calling or some flame war. And props to her, she didn't either....and was even able to maintain a certain level of humor while we disagreed. No major war, no namecalling, just 2 people disagreeing and still maintaining a level of decorum.

In swoops Yoyo because *gasp* one of her buddies (who was handling themselves pretty damn well without needing anyone else's help) opinions was being challenged. And what was her wonderful contribution to defend her friends opinion? She opened up the flames that consisted of me being...."shitty, rude, I suck, just GTFO, piece of shit mother fucker". So when I respond in kind slinging a few insults of my own, now I'm the bad guy???????

Until this morning, I couldn't have cared any less at how many people disliked Yoyo (although I was very aware of it considering there is a LITANY of gripes about her modding and attitude in general). I'm not here to play the popularity games, or give a shit about the social status of who's who, and whatever other silly scorecard some of you use. As I said above, just because I disagree with someone's opinion 99 times in a row....I STILL have the objectivity to look at opinion #100 and deal with it for whatever it is on its own merit and not give a flying fart about how stupid or assinine they were in the past. But yeah, once someone jumps on me...damn right I'll take the gloves off and come out swinging. For that I have no regrets.

Really and truly, some of you need to just take a fuckin chill and not get so wound up about the "social" aspect of the nonsense that is spewed here. Xaio I know you are married with kids, so obviously you DO have enough social interaction offline to not get so caught up in this kidiotic playground posturing. More than anything, especially try not to let your online "friends" drag you to their level in the gutter when you are so much better than that.

Oops wait..... am I still beating a dead horse because I responded to YOUR post now????

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Okies from now on IMG tagged dead baby pics and shockers are classed as spam on this forum.

Basta.

'you must spread some reputation around before giving it to jackketch again'

I dont see how having them in URL is ok but not in tags. If they are in tags they are not really 'shocking' anyone.

QFT ...

Really and truly, some of you need to just take a fuckin chill and not get so wound up about the "social" aspect of the nonsense that is spewed here. Xaio I know you are married with kids, so obviously you DO have enough social interaction offline to not get so caught up in this kidiotic playground posturing. More than anything, especially try not to let your online "friends" drag you to their level in the gutter when you are so much better than that.

Oops wait..... am I still beating a dead horse because I responded to YOUR post now????

I just think you take it too far.

I just think you take it too far.

i <3 xiao =]

Mr. Happy, I am not trying to seduce you.

Edit:

Would you like me to seduce you?

:D

:o

...I'm going home now. I'm sorry for what I said. I hope you can forget it. I'm going home right now.

*scurries out of women's forum*

I just think you take it too far.

I finally understand this all completely now....

So as long as someone agrees with YOUR stance on this topic.... we can have a whole line up of people voicing their sense of decency, subtling questioning Jack's modding, threatening to "leave" Totse, flinging childish insults, kiddingly discuss creating a new forum where they won't have to be offended, and telling others to leave because they don't agree with their opinion.....that is perfectly within the range of being "acceptable".

But if someone DISAGREES with your side.....and they just tell everyone to lighten up because its a joke, or defend themselves from flaming idiots....then its "taking things too far".

MAKES COMPLETE SENSE TO ME!

Personally, I find the pictures to be offensive, but I don't think they should be removed because of freedom of speech.

My complaint has nothing to do with your opinion about the thread topic. It is purely about the way you seem to feel the need to be deliberately obtuse and insulting in your posts. I don't care if you and I disagree...Jackketch and I disagree all of the time, but it never degenerates into insults and cruelty. Yoyobek shouldn't have called you names, but your insults towards her went WAY beyond name calling. I've seen you be horrible to other posters too and THAT is what I object to, not your opinion.

Ya think?!

You don't know too many menopausal women, now do you, boy? :P

I'll have you know that I am NOT menopausal! I'm 27 for christ's sake!!:P

threatening to "leave" Totse, flinging childish insults, kiddingly discuss creating a new forum where they won't have to be offended,

Uhm you do realise that the poster in question, oc6 is infact outcast, aka the love of my life?

Zomg where are the pix :(

I did note that you saw this as a "threat to leave" totse, DG. Why it was so threatening to you I have yet to understand.

Admittedly, I spend less and less time here because of the sheer repetitiveness here. I presume that eventually I'll become a poster of the past, like many others, who just pops in from time to time.

I wonder what happened to 2020 (I think that was his username).

Oh, and the "new forum" thing. I have seen it done on other sites where forums are geared toward certain age groups. But, that really would not work here.

Anyway, I think you made your point fairly well. Gotta admire a person's passion for their own viewpoint.

I didn't find anything "threatening" because you were talking about leaving. What I saw was yet another person chime in their 2 cents trying to debate the issue of whether Jack was right by keeping the photos up. My whole intent on posting on this thread was to give the general message of "lighten up", while so many others were wagging their indignant fingers at what their sense of decency was. Not to mention a couple of mods telling us how THEY would handle it.

As for everything else said about 2020, new forums, you being Jack's love of his life.....I have no clue about any of that. Again, I try to avoid getting into the social groups in here, and more often than not just post my opinion and move on...or debate it if need be.

I have absolutely nothing against you. I just found your little comment about "leaving" quite comical. Notice I didn't feel the need to keep discussing it, until a psycho friend of yours thought they were going to play hero. And I admire the fact that you can also debate without having to resort to 3rd grade insults or have temper tantrums, just because someone doesn't disagree with you.

Either you are seeing what you want to see, or aren't paying attention to the majority of my posts. I give plenty of great advice and very rarely have to get into flame wars, more often than not ONLY when someone initiates it my way first. Hell, I've even given you some sincere legitimate advice on some of your threads....but you probably missed that as well (by the way, how was your parents visit any how? we never heard a follow up)

I find it funny that because I "went beyond name calling" towards Yoyo....this is what has you so incensed. In essence she decided to start throwing rocks, and because I wanted to chuck some boulders you are now crying foul. Who knows, maybe before she has her next little temper tantrum towards someone she may think twice about how the outcome is going to be. Its doubtful she will, but I guess there is always hope.

Face it Xaio, the fact you are THIS loyal to Yoyo may be admirable to some extent...but in the same breath its going to wear you out. She obviously is bi-polar or has some other mental malady. At the very least she has anger and temper issues. Just look around these boards. One minute a thread is closed, the next minute its open. One minute her friend is handling herself in civil debate, then in rides Yoyo on the white horse with her playground insult ridden drivel. One minute she is a mod, the next she isn't. Stick around for the next hour, you'll probably watch her go through a whole shitload of emotions during her girlish tantrums.

You can try to put whatever spin on this thread you like, or attempt to rewrite history however you see fit.....making Yoyo out to be the one that is the poor "victim" here. The only problem with that is though is that anyone that has the ability to actually READ THIS THREAD can see the real truth. Keep telling the world that I'm this "big bad meanie" in the same sentence that you are blindly defending the temper ridden little girl, and see how many folks actually believe that I'm some kind of ogre.

Just keepin it real folks.......

I know, because I have seen you in other forums. There is wisdom in that.

I did think Xiao's comment about an "old ladies" forum was funny, because she is so young. :D


Completely agreed! May I suggest a name for the "ladies group"????

How about.....THE SNATCH BATCH!

Or am I going to get the same reaction as I do from my wife when I refer to her and her girlfriends going out on the town with that monicker? : )

Completely agreed! May I suggest a name for the "ladies group"????

How about.....THE SNATCH BATCH!


hmmm its certainly shorter and easier to use than " Anally Frigid Fem Nazi Psycho Bitches From Hell and Child rearing Forum"

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m160/SatansHandicappedHelper/Ho-Bag.jpg

I know, because I have seen you in other forums. There is wisdom in that.

I did think Xiao's comment about an "old ladies" forum was funny, because she is so young. :D
Compared to most people on here I am old, though.:(

And seriously...I think a forum for married ladies with kids would be cool! I don't bring up a lot of topics on here, because most people would be bored by them.

Compared to most people on here I am old, though.:(

And seriously...I think a forum for married ladies with kids would be cool! I don't bring up a lot of topics on here, because most people would be bored by them.

why just a forum for married ladies with kids? why not a forum for just married people with kids......not that i think it would be even remotley interesting....and im married with kids

I guess men could go in there too...