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Network (in)Security Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such is completely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Amendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cell phone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cell phone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly OK. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net.

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Old 2007-06-14, 14:21
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Hello all.

I'm wanting to learn a new computer language, and I'm not sure exactly what. I already know Java quite well so C++ is pretty much out of the question because that'll be too easy.

One that is used in networking possibly. ( No web design ones =P.)

I was thinking PERL or Python but would love suggestions or opinions.

Thanks
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Old 2007-06-14, 14:25
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ASM for shell coding? Perl is good. I know people are going to kick me for this but, how about FORTRAN!
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Old 2007-06-14, 15:27
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how about FORTRAN!
Oh dear god...

Yeah, I think you should try Perl and Python. Possibly Ruby.
If you're bored you could always try Brainfuck, but don't expect to be able to do anything useful with it.
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Old 2007-06-14, 16:23
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C, ASM and Perl.
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Old 2007-06-14, 18:25
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LOL. FORTRAN. Naw, I guess I'll go for PERL. Haven't ever heard of ASM though; I'll look into it.
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Old 2007-06-14, 18:53
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LOL. FORTRAN. Naw, I guess I'll go for PERL. Haven't ever heard of ASM though; I'll look into it.
ASM is an abbreviation of "assembly language". It could also mean "abstract state machine", but we definitely don't mean that ASM...
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Old 2007-06-14, 19:05
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Naw, that's alright. I'll go ahead and learn PERL. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a good compiler/debugger/etc.?
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Old 2007-06-14, 19:36
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Naw, that's alright. I'll go ahead and learn PERL. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a good compiler/debugger/etc.?
Perl is distributed as a compiler/interpreter/debugger set. You can get it HERE.
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Old 2007-06-14, 19:51
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LOL. FORTRAN. Naw, I guess I'll go for PERL. Haven't ever heard of ASM though; I'll look into it.

ASM = assembly, it's....pretty fucking insane.
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Old 2007-06-14, 20:37
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This is a good tutorial for PERL, i'm following.

http://zoklet.net/roberts-perl-tutorial.htm

I think zok posted it a few weeks back on these boards.
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