Okay... between pFPP and Mcpp, what in the more worth while chemical and why?


It's proving quite difficult to find any information on these substances, and any input would be greatly appreciated.

Eek...I've heard that all piperazines aren't particularly fun, and give more negatives than positives...seeing that they're banned now anyway, you may as well order some GOOD chems (Methylone)

Are you wanting these for speedy properties, or more empathetic(mdma-ish) properties?

From what I've come across, most of the piperazines suck. There are both speedy and emphathetic(to some extent) stimulants out there that are way better.

I just want to try something different. The stuff I'm looking at is less than $30 a gram + free shipping. At doses around 35mg a pop... you do the math.

Yeah, I do want to try methylone, but it's too damn expensive.

Whatever. Just looking for an overall interesting experience. Nothing MIND BLOWING or anything, just a fun time.

Damn. I didn't realize the shit was so cheap...

I might actually look into this myself...

Don't look into the piperazine line then. I would share other compounds, but being a public board and all, I'd rather not divulge their names due to The Man cracking down chems that become too popular(foxy,etc).

I know of research chemicals, if that's what you're insinuating towards. I have [hypothetically] done 2c-i, 2c-e, and possibly, meO-5-dmt sometime quite soon.

Let me ask you this... do you actually have any firsthand experience with either of the above. I've referenced erowid and various other forums, and there does seem to be some worth while effects with these.

Yeah, someone that may or may not be associated with me is typing my behalf(with or without my consent, using the computer usually used by this account). No to the 2ci/e, yes to the 5meo dmt. However, they are other fun stims out there(non-psychedelic).

There's a certain methylenedioxy(not M1) one, and a certain pipradrol(Hint:Benzo's are a must due to the half life) the typer is quite fond of(In his research studies only).

But be careful, I have heard they are very compulsive!

Well... when I said either of the above, I was actually referring to pFPP and mcPP, but whatever. Didn't word that post too good. My bad.