k i am in my third year of university chemistry and i know no one that can tell me or think of a similar cocaine base that can be converted into a visually similar hydrochloric salt. anything is either too dense of the wrong color and im not about to ask my profs for substances with similar cocaine characteristics. caffeine sulfate to caffeine hydrochloride is similar but nothin to the effect of crack and cocaine. If anyone could bore my curiosity and give me some kind of example it would be much appreciated. thanx (this thread is for information and theoretical purposes only)

yeah... it's called "controlled substance analogs of cocaine," such as the methylformate or methylpropionate substitution of the methylacetate, and it's still a fuckin' felony.

You can basically either get the fuckin' coke, deal with the fact that caffiene isn't coke, or murder/suicide. Those are your three options.

he wants something visually similar, i assume it is for cutting and selling, if you find something that looks exactly like coke tell us all

glucose has always been used as a 'safe' cut for amphetamine sulphate and coke too, I believe. Safe, cheap, easily available and does not cause probs for IV users.

I know lactose is used for a few things, more usually opiates by dissolving both in methanol and rextaling, though I suspect it would probably just gum up your nose, so perhaps not. Maybe try it and see.

Ephedrine HCL is a good cut, as long as it's clean, but if you have that, just cook dope.

Another is a baby laxative. I can't remember the actual name, but my mom has told me for YEARS that people use it to cut coke. I'll call her today and get the name of it, and post it, but it is just like coke, for the intents and purposes here.

And I know this is true because my dad used to sell when I was a kid, and so did all his friends. My parents were and still are huge cokeheads. Normally, I take what they say about drugs with a grain of salt, because they believe shit loads of myths (like my mom saying LSD causes mutations in your kids if you do it even once) BUT like I said, those fuckers actually did it for years and years, so I know it's true.

I'll give the old bitch a call and see what it was.

And yeah, FMJ, I heard the same thing about lactose with H but not sure if it would work for coke. I'm not much into coke. I only really started actually learning about the compound itself after I had already had my hey day with it. Since then, I try to have as little contact as possible with it. Nasty shit, coke. Hell of a drug.


And OP, don't cut your shit. It's already been cut. Just sell at a higher price like you would with weed and you will get more business. My dad was a dick for cutting his coke.

Are you just asking for something that crashes out of a solution when salted to HCl, and looks like cocaine?

yes^. there have to be hydrochloric salts that are similar to cocaine HCL in powder form and can be turned back and forth to a sulfate with baking soda. im looking for similar physical features. people know what they are theyre just being dumb dicks about it and wont give it out.

Well, you're gonna need an alkaloid if you want to salt it out.... so I'd suggest looking at easily available alkaloids that might be similar in properties to cocaine. I'm sure other tropane alkaliods would be nice. Look up CFT, it would be cool to have some of that to... experiment with

Why don't you use pse???
...looks similar and can be turned into a sulphate.