Heard this too many times? 'Cuz I have. I can't seem to close on a deal--I'll have a girl in the palm of my hands, but I won't perceive an opportunity to, say, make the occasion more private. Anyone got any advice? Similar problems?

If you go out with the view that any girl you talk to wants to fuck, then you won't have this problem.

DO WORK!!!, thats all u gotta do, u may be thinking oh right now isnt the right time, what do u have to lose? If the girl likes u or vibes u shes prolly like why the fuck wont he make a move on me.....

a girl im currently talking at, i fucking straight up know that if i dont do work my next date with her that im done..itll be strike 3....even tho i met this girl off fucking myspace LMFAO..u gotta give 1 date to like meet/get to know each other haha but still u cant fuck around or ur chance goes right down the drain....learned that the hard way with a fucking hot ass girl(literally)

I agree. Operate on the premise that she digs you until you have concrete proof otherwise.

"Daddy?"
"Yes, son?"
"What does regret mean?"
"Well son, the funny thing about regret is that it's better to regret something you have done than to regret something that you haven't done. And by the way, If you see your mom this weekend, will you be sure and tell her..." SATAN!

Butthole surfers FTW.

What song is that?

Sweet Loaf

I often don't have the balls to kiss a girl when I know I probably should.

It's my own personal cowardice.

i mostly have this problem with ugly girls....lol

burger king got your ass fat fat
mcdonalds got your ass fat fat
and domino's got ur ass fat fat

dont be stuck on what they say now u know its a nasty worllld
i aint fuckin wit you anyway cuz i know your a nasty guuuurrlll
i aint ever gonna spread my name so let me compliment your eyes!

If its the right time they will be waiting for it, like again today 2nd time meeting this girl...the knowing that we are about to depart from our day of fun..talking..etc... doing the slow-piddle walking to our cars....talking the random bs as u do but thinking i gotta choose up and let her know with some type of action...too soon to give her a smooch....I just threw up a hug on her..and like as soon as i went to reach around her she like immidiately threw her arms around me before i got mine around her.......

Show some duty, do work!

How old are you?

If you're still a teenager, then you're going to be awkward for a while.

If you're older, then you seriously need to learn whats up. And i'm not saying this to be mean, but its the truth.

Heres a random story that may or may not be indirectly related.

I met this girl on craigslist, under the casual encounters. But her ad wasnt for sex, it was basically...to come over and watch a movie, the descent...which SUCKED FUCKING BALLS, btw. But that wasnt the point. We talked on aim for a while, and she made it clear that she didnt want anything sexual. She just wanted to watch the movie. So I went over there and it was one of the best nights of my life. She was so adorable, and honestly...I fell in love with her the first night. Like really and truly fell in love.

The second time I saw her, I went over to give her a massage, and we ended up falling asleep together. I woke up halfway through the night, and realized she didnt have any pants on. I just shrugged it off as what she was comfortable with. The third night, I went over again, and she asked me to sleep naked with her. I -STILL- didnt do shit, despite the fact that we were both completely naked against each other. I didnt know what to do, because at the beggining, she clearly stated she didnt want to do anything sexual.

That was the last chance I got. She talked to me online for a few days after that, and it seemed like everything was normal. But after about a week, she started ignoring me completely. I fucked up something serious because I didnt take advantage of the situation before me.

My advice to you....Never. Never. Never. make this mistake. If you make a move, and a girl doesnt want to, BIG FUCKING DEAL. She'll stop you, and you have the option of not seeing her anymore. But I gave up something unique. And its horrible, it really is. I only saw that girl three times, total. It was all in the span of a week or two. It's been 4 or 5 months since the last time I saw her, and honestly...I still cant stop thinking about it. It hurts my soul, honestly.

And if you can learn anything from my pain, then It'll make it at least somewhat worthwhile. So next time, make that move...okay?

^ Fuck.
Im really getting kicked in the ass by these threads.
I hope its not too late damnit, from one point of view its been too long, but I still have some hope left.
Goddamn fuck.
Next time, Ill make the move, Ill remember totse, and Ill make the move believe me.

edit: She walks home pretty much the same way I go, should I go for it then? And wtf should I do (I know its a lame question, but this is me, unexperienced noob in these things), should I just walk up to her and put my arm over her? Grab her hand, walk her home, hug and kiss? Or should I be more straighforward, like grab her hand and say something, ask her if she likes me or something like that?

This ambiguous superstate of winANDfail shall become clear once I come back.

Alcohol seems to help me with that problem,but not when a couple of girls seem to be flirty but not quite physical and i have to choose one

Heh, I used to make moves on girls all the time... sometimes even girls I had never met.

One time I was walking down one of them wooden walkways outside a shopfront which is being worked on, and I kissed this girl cos she smiled at me on the way past. Spent the rest of the night with her, then never saw her again.

At parties, I used to make a tit out of myself sometimes but more often than not, nothing was taken to heart. There were times I kissed every girl at a party. Even if a girl wasn't interested in me, they wouldn't push me away immediately.

Being this forward done wonders for my casual sex life. Last year, I lost count completely of casual sex partners.

Like one Saturday night I had decided to stay in, but got bored and started walking towards a local pub when this girl smiled at me. She was cute, too. I chatted to her, took her back to my place and had my way with her. There were no more than five minutes inbetween me speaking to her and letting her into my house. I never got her name or number, but I didn't really want it either...

I've settled down now, though.

God, this has happened to me way too many times. I'm only 14, but a couple of actual relationships have been ruined, while countless possible relations have been ruined by me second guessing myself. Le sigh.

The other day I walked by a house, and there was a girl there who I didn't notice, but her little brothers where playing outside. As i reached the end of the street, one called out, 'My sister thinks your hot!'. I turned and gave a thumbs up, but then he rode his bike to me and repeated it. I scoffed (a happy scoff) when I found out she was also 14. Judging from the boy, I would say she was probably attractive.

I didn't know what to say so when he asked me what i wanted to say, I just said, 'tell her i think she's hot' and walked away.

Later on i was riding my bike and it turned out I had a pen in my pocket, so I considered riding down and talking to this chick and maybe getting her msn/phone number (more as practise than anything), but I decided not to.

I know the whole situation is pathetic, but what was the best thing to do in that situation?

You know, I'm going to try something physical next time I see her.

let me say this..even tho it can be done both ways...just incase shes not vibing u as much as u think...get in a comfortable environment....idk havent read all ur thread besides that u didnt make a move....but if u hang with the girl..get some where sort of private...not too public..that way she may feel more comfortable for u to throw up some game......

^^^^ cause i kno if i dont start getting in my settings like that with my current choice, im going to lose all my chips on the table..possibly...u just dont know until its too late.....and then guess what u fucked..jus like that one dude said..didnt sleep naked with that chick..and that was it..the girl got the impression..heh this dude doesnt want to Do work with me...forget him....ive had it happen to me before like i said..this girl that was vibing me hardcore..i didnt talk enough to her..and she just moved on...but that may have been for the better..but it still haunts me that i never would of known the outcome..cause i never tried!!

should I just walk up to her and put my arm over her? Grab her hand, walk her home, hug and kiss? Or should I be more straighforward, like grab her hand and say something, ask her if she likes me or something like that?

This ambiguous superstate of winANDfail shall become clear once I come back.

hmm well Im a dude and today this girl I know just came up to me and put her arm around my shoulders and I was fine with that and even if I wasnt attracted to her I probably still would have been fine with it kuz shes not like weird....so Im gonna say that if a guy isnt considered creepy by a girl then its probably okay to go up and put ur arm around her shoulder....just dont do it too much

What song is that?

As well as being in that Butthole Surfers song, it's also sampled in "Satan" by Orbital.

SATAN!SATAN!SATAN!SATAN!
SSSSSAAAAATTTTTAAAAANNNNN!