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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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Old 2007-06-03, 23:00
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In Turkey the country is being split between seculars and Islamists. This is very dissapointing to me that a large segment of Turkey's population wants to forsake the intent of Ataturk and turn Turkey into another Arab country ruled by the koran and sharia.

I am just wondering what your thoughts are on the growing force of religous fundamentalism. It even seems to be happening in the west with the rise of the religous right. I do not understnad why religion has grown to be so potent a force over the years when science is answering so many questions.
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Old 2007-06-03, 23:01
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Wrong forum again, loser.
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Old 2007-06-03, 23:04
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^ Not really.

Anyways, to answer your question, people are stupid and lazy. It's much easier to simply answer everything with "God" than to look in a book or think for yourself.

*ObZ
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Old 2007-06-03, 23:04
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What will become of the religious fundamentalists
Preferably ashes...

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Or independent, intelligent people, but that would mean they'd have to pull their heads out of their assholes, and the way things are going at the moment, I think I'll stick with my original answer...

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Old 2007-06-03, 23:04
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^ Not really.

Anyways, to answer your question, people are stupid and lazy. It's much easier to simply answer everything with "God" than to look in a book or think for yourself.

*ObZ
I fucking hate this guy.
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Old 2007-06-03, 23:07
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In Turkey the country is being split between seculars and Islamists. This is very dissapointing to me that a large segment of Turkey's population wants to forsake the intent of Ataturk and turn Turkey into another Arab country ruled by the koran and sharia.

I am just wondering what your thoughts are on the growing force of religous fundamentalism. It even seems to be happening in the west with the rise of the religous right. I do not understnad why religion has grown to be so potent a force over the years when science is answering so many questions.
You're too intelligent for the average SG discussion. This sort of thread may well work better in politics/ect
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Old 2007-06-03, 23:09
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Probably humanities, considering the inter-social aspect of the scenario outlined.

i don't think this would go well in MGCBTSOOYG.
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Old 2007-06-03, 23:10
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why not just discuss it here I think its general enough...why the big hatred of intelligent discussion?
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Old 2007-06-03, 23:13
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Wrong forum again, loser.
Winner.
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Old 2007-06-03, 23:27
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In Turkey the country is being split between seculars and Islamists. This is very dissapointing to me that a large segment of Turkey's population wants to forsake the intent of Ataturk and turn Turkey into another Arab country ruled by the koran and sharia.
Yup, it sucks boatlods...
And if they get it their way, Turkey won't be a part of the EU, and the living standards of the Turkish population will probably take a big fat plunge.
A generation or two later, we'll end up with even more religious fundamentalists, because it's easier to recruit new fanatics from a poverty stricken country where people suffer, than it is from a stable country where most people are happy.

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I am just wondering what your thoughts are on the growing force of religous fundamentalism.
Well, that was some of them...

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It even seems to be happening in the west with the rise of the religous right.
I agree.
And I believe the reason lies somewhere between George Bush's foreign policy, and the craving for power in the religious leaders in the Middle East.

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I do not understnad why religion has grown to be so potent a force over the years when science is answering so many questions.
Because we let it...

Lack of education in the west, as well as in the east.
Poverty.
Greed.

I think we'd need a WW3 that wiped out at least 50% of the worlds population, to start over, and do it right this time.
And why is that?
Well, because those in power simply have too much of it, and they won't give it up.

Not that I'm trying to start a world wide revolution (not really possible either), but what we'd need to do to change the world would be something that could best be described that way.
At least in the sense that we'd have to change the way we view everything...

Damn dude, that's a fucking hard question you ask there...
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Old 2007-06-04, 00:38
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In Turkey the country is being split between seculars and Islamists. This is very dissapointing to me that a large segment of Turkey's population wants to forsake the intent of Ataturk and turn Turkey into another Arab country ruled by the koran and sharia.

I am just wondering what your thoughts are on the growing force of religous fundamentalism. It even seems to be happening in the west with the rise of the religous right. I do not understnad why religion has grown to be so potent a force over the years when science is answering so many questions.


Okay, I agree that a secular state is the only safe way to go and that fundamentalism is a poison whether its Islamic, Christian, Jewish, Sikh, or anything. However, Ataturk wasn't a very respectable person: he reformed Turkey using the money that belonged to the Armenians (he worked for the Ottoman Empire so he doesn't escape the guilt of the genocide), he cruelly repressed the Kurds, and he sent people to death as leader of Turkey. Also, Turkey is a Turkish nation, not Arabic, the phrase you wanted was Islamic theocracy.
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Default Re: What will become of the religious fundamentalists

Concerning Fundamentalists in Turkey - I think they'll either tone down or be flattened in another coup. I'm not the greatest authority on Turkish politics, but whenever the armed forces in Turkey make threats like this, they usually aren't making them lightly. Also, toning themselves down a little will improve their chances of joining the EU - a very popular move in Turkey.

As for the worldwide rise of fundametalism, I think its already been said: Fear. Greed. Lack of education.
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