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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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#1
 2007-05-13, 20:08
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Wings for Marie 
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Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
There is this girl that I care deeply about more so then you can even imagine. Well a couple days ago on AIM she broke and told me that a girl that hates her got her drunk and had another guy take advantage of her and now there is a possibility she may be pregnant. She seems extremely depressed and she tells me that she feels "so guilty and dirty" and that "she just wants someone who will lay with her." I'm really confused and hurt and I don't know what I can do. Please, any advice is appreciated.
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#2
 2007-05-13, 20:13
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
She wants you to be a friend. If you can, then be that friend.
If you're capable of offering comfort, it sounds like that's what she is looking for from you.
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#3
 2007-05-13, 20:40
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
goes without saying but find the guy who did it... and beat the living shit out of him...
as for what to say to the girl i have no idea, thats probably one of the worst things that anyone could experience. Im really sorry for u dude, and by you i mean her. unfortunately i wouldnt have any idea.
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#4
 2007-05-13, 20:43
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Me and her are both 16 and the guy is 18 so he could be legally fucked if she wasen't so ashamed to come forth. I told her I would beat the shit out of the guy and she made me promise not to do anything so I dunno.
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#5
 2007-05-13, 20:45
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
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Originally Posted by Wings for Marie
Me and her are both 16 and the guy is 18 so he could be legally fucked if she wasen't so ashamed to come forth. I told her I would beat the shit out of the guy and she made me promise not to do anything so I dunno.
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Go over there, if you aren't there already. She is looking for someone, not someone to fight.
Forget that you're a big tough son of a bitch for a second and realize that she might need you to be a bit more than that.
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#6
 2007-05-13, 20:54
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Yeah, I know i'm gonna need to comfort her since i'm the only person that knows but i've never exactly had to help or be around someone who just got raped. Especialy someone I have feelings for.
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#7
 2007-05-13, 21:00
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Then be honest. Tell her that you want to be there for her, but aren't sure how.
You still don't seem to be over there though. What's stopping you?
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#8
 2007-05-13, 21:11
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
She god drunk and fucked a guy,
you call that rape???
I call that being a fucking whore!
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#9
 2007-05-13, 21:11
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
You still don't seem to be over there though. What's stopping you?
Yea man get your ass over there
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#10
 2007-05-13, 21:17
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bangor northern ireland
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
seriously, beat the shit out of the guy. I know the girl doesnt want u to, but dont tell her. This guy seriously needs get fucked up so he wont do somethin like this again to another girl.
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#11
 2007-05-13, 21:17
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I get so sick of the standard "omfg beat his fuckin ass" totse response.
I swear- to the people who say this, do you not think for a second that maybe the rapist is a bit bigger or stronger than the OP? He's not even with this girl, and he's supposed to be that knight in shining armor or whatever. Why would he want to risk his ass for a girl that doesn't like him like that.
To the OP: She may have been raped- she may have gotten drunk, and fucked a guy. In reality, we will most likely never know. You need to tell her that you're there for support, and that she can trust you with anything. Whether this sets you up for a relationship or not is not important at this point; she needs to deal with this first.
And finally, as for the "I just want someone to lay with me"- Let that shit go. All it will do is give you some nice mixed feelings, which may in fact only make her situation a lot worse. (She just got raped- I can promise you the last thing on her mind is fucking another guy.)
PS: Tell her to get a pregnancy test done soon- Or Plan B (No prescription required now, just go to the pharmacy; only good within 72 hours though.)
Good luck man.
~Saint947
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#12
 2007-05-13, 21:33
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
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Originally Posted by Saint947
I get so sick of the standard "omfg beat his fuckin ass" totse response.
I swear- to the people who say this, do you not think for a second that maybe the rapist is a bit bigger or stronger than the OP? He's not even with this girl, and he's supposed to be that knight in shining armor or whatever. Why would he want to risk his ass for a girl that doesn't like him like that.
To the OP: She may have been raped- she may have gotten drunk, and fucked a guy. In reality, we will most likely never know. You need to tell her that you're there for support, and that she can trust you with anything. Whether this sets you up for a relationship or not is not important at this point; she needs to deal with this first.
And finally, as for the "I just want someone to lay with me"- Let that shit go. All it will do is give you some nice mixed feelings, which may in fact only make her situation a lot worse. (She just got raped- I can promise you the last thing on her mind is fucking another guy.)
PS: Tell her to get a pregnancy test done soon- Or Plan B (No prescription required now, just go to the pharmacy; only good within 72 hours though.)
Good luck man.
~Saint947
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Finally a glint of light in the pubescent testosterone haze!
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#13
 2007-05-13, 22:44
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I"m guessing this is just buyer's remorse... got too drunk, had sex with some older guy then decided she was raped. Or maybe not. I don't know her.
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#14
 2007-05-14, 01:59
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
she needs a friend, thats all. go over to her and talk with her, comfort her do what ever except any sexualy intercours at all. dont do anything unless she sticks her hand down your pants. once you have her comforted talk to her about the guy and find out who it was. call the cops and tell them she got raped and may be pregnant. jail time is a shit load worse then getting the shit kicked out of you
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#15
 2007-05-14, 02:22
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I don't mean to be an asshole, but she's lying dude.
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#16
 2007-05-14, 03:17
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
since im not going to give the "omfg beat his ass" response because clearly he is bigger than you and such there are afew things that i would do.
1) Vandalize his car. Baddly piss in the gas tank (best because he would have no idea) or key it.
2)Rat him out. The guy will get what he deserves hopefully.
3)Go to a party where you see him. Spike his drink with some crazy shit, preferably shit that would make him just loose his fuckin mind for the night and make him look like an asshole. this is also a good one for the bitch that put him up to it.
4) get creative
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#17
 2007-05-14, 04:20
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
If someone slipped you roofies, then its rape.
If you've had one too many and decided to fuck another guy, it's you being a dumbass.
(same with weed btw)
Bitches need to stop using their own lack of restraint as an excuse.
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#18
 2007-05-14, 04:20
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I had this exact situation happen to a girl i 'deeply care(d) for' too. After the second time, i realised she was a whore and that she was feeding me a story to try and make herself not look like a whore, as well as to not make me feel bad.
Consider the possibility. It isn't rape unless she was comatose, which is rarely the case. She got all fucked up and banged a dude only 2 years older than her and had regrets, 16 year old girls are stupid like that; they dont know wtf they want in a man yet.
Be her shoulder to cry on, go with her to get an abortion..w/e the case, just don't waste too much time on a chick that knows you obviously care for her but doesn't equally reciprocate that.
Would she be pulling this teenage melo-dramatic BS is she had fucked you instead of unprotected drunk sex with soem older douchebag..?
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#19
 2007-05-14, 05:30
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
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Originally Posted by tresco
I don't mean to be an asshole, but she's lying dude.
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THANK YOU!!! I am a girl and I will tell you right now that if I thought I might be pregnant with some random guy I willingly fucked drunk I would NOT be admitting to it. I would come up with a lie like that some girl I hated got me drunk and got a guy to take advantage of me. Oh wait....
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#20
 2007-05-14, 05:44
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Man, i just realized after saint's reply everyone went from "beat his ass" to "she's just a slut dude"
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#21
 2007-05-14, 05:54
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I'd be going with the slut option dude. Sorry.
I mean, this is one of the reasons 16 year olds aren't supposed to drink - they aren't mature enough to handle the consequences.
Only way to find out for sure is to just man up and say "look, I know how this went down. I'll still talk to you and be youir mate, but thats about it from this end. If you want to talk, you know where I am".
And leave it at that. I mean, you are both 16. It's not like your married with kids or anything....
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#22
 2007-05-14, 06:52
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I've ended up in compromising situations after drinking copious amounts of cocktails.
Afterwards I regretted it.
I wouldn't call that rape.
She may very well have been raped, of course.. but think carefully. When people get annoyed at themselves, they cast around for someone to pin the blame on. Tell HER to go to the police.. it sounds like she knows you'll try and do something, but it's not necessarily for the best.
Just check she hasn't decided it feels like rape in retrospect. Not that you have any way of checking that. I guess you have to trust, and will trust, what she says.. besides which, if you know her well enough as an honest individual, just be there to support her. Don't try to punch the lights out of some guy who you don't know.
Oh, and the female who got her drunk makes the whole thing sound even more dodgy. If she didn't like the girl and the girl didn't like her, why did she get drunk with her? If she decided after that it was the girl's fault, again, maybe she's casting round for blame.
And it's more likely the other girl would get her drunk so as to make her more promiscuous and amourous, to ruin her reputation. Which isn't rape.
Look at it from all sides, bro.
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#23
 2007-05-14, 09:16
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Don't be a captain save-a-hoe, unless you know for a fact your getting pussy for it. I've been there and done that, and even the pussy wasn't worth it honestly. The most I think your obligated to do is make him pay the abortion if he refuses, but then again, the bitch could be lying about that shit too. Whores are always going on about how they think there pregnent, it makes them the center of attention...
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#24
 2007-05-14, 17:48
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I get so sick of the standard "omfg beat his fuckin ass" totse response.
I swear- to the people who say this, do you not think for a second that maybe the rapist is a bit bigger or stronger than the OP? He's not even with this girl, and he's supposed to be that knight in shining armor or whatever. Why would he want to risk his ass for a girl that doesn't like him like that.
That's why we have guns. :D "God didn't make all men equal. Samuel Colt did." You got pecs? I got TECs!
Nah, I'm kidding. But if he really did rape her (and it wasn't just her being stupid and getting drunk or deciding she didn't want to do it half way through), he probably needs a gun pointed in his face.
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#25
 2007-05-14, 21:52
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
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Originally Posted by genericwittyusername
Man, i just realized after saint's reply everyone went from "beat his ass" to "she's just a slut dude"
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I tend to have this effect on people..
~Saint947
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#26
 2007-05-15, 00:10
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
This is why I won't consider girls who go out drinking, because this shit always happens to them.
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#27
 2007-05-15, 05:41
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I read this as;
A girl I care about was raped deeply.
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#28
 2007-05-15, 06:12
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
a girl that hates her got her drunk and had another guy take advantage of her.
So first we have a girl accepting alcohol from someone who hates her, and then she is "taken advantage of". That is NOT rape. I doubt the guy would even be in legal trouble if the case was pursued. 18 and 16 is legal almost everywhere. They have to prove she was in a vulnerable situation. Without witnesses on her behalf, thats gonna be near impossible.
Unless she specifically said "no", or felt a threat of violence if she declined, it just isn't rape. It is drunken, regrettable sex. It happens everyday, and thats why we have the pill. These days, if you aren't on the pill, you better have a chastity belt on 24/7.
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#29
 2007-05-15, 08:43
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
THANK YOU!!! I am a girl and I will tell you right now that if I thought I might be pregnant with some random guy I willingly fucked drunk I would NOT be admitting to it. I would come up with a lie like that some girl I hated got me drunk and got a guy to take advantage of me. Oh wait....
I hate how people on totse automatically assume that any rape case that is disscussed here is a joke or a lie. You people further this idea and stigma, when in reality only a small amount of cases are actually the women being a lying cunt.
The guy asked for help, not your opinion on how truthful a person that you've never met or know anything about it. If you can't help then shut up and GTFO.
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#30
 2007-05-15, 09:01
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I hate how people on totse automatically assume that any rape case that is disscussed here is a joke or a lie. You people further this idea and stigma, when in reality only a small amount of cases are actually the women being a lying cunt.
The guy asked for help, not your opinion on how truthful a person that you've never met or know anything about it. If you can't help then shut up and GTFO.
Hey, lying cunt, stfu.
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#31
 2007-05-15, 09:06
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Hey, lying cunt, stfu.
Hmmm, I've never cried rape in my life - so in that respect I'm not a lying cunt ;)
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#32
 2007-05-15, 10:01
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Hmmm, I've never cried rape in my life - so in that respect I'm not a lying cunt ;)
The op used the phrase "got her drunk" and having a guy "take advantage of her".
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#33
 2007-05-15, 10:32
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Ya'll are just beating a dead horse right now until the OP updates this.
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#34
 2007-05-15, 10:46
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
The op used the phrase "got her drunk" and having a guy "take advantage of her".
I know. I never addressed the OP in any of my posts. I quoted someone else and addressed their post. I have no advice for the topic starter at the moment since I'd be repeating most of what Euda's already said. I never stated if I thought this particular case was actual 'rape' or not - there's not enough info to go on to decide on that quite yet.
I only have a beef with people that continuely be-little any women that may have been raped - it sends out the stigma that every women that says she has been raped, is a liar - which in the majority of cases isn't correct. I do know that there are some disgustingly low bitches out there that do cry rape for attention but please, don't let a minority ruin what help is put in place for women that actually need it.
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#35
 2007-05-15, 12:34
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I know. I never addressed the OP in any of my posts. I quoted someone else and addressed their post. I have no advice for the topic starter at the moment since I'd be repeating most of what Euda's already said. I never stated if I thought this particular case was actual 'rape' or not - there's not enough info to go on to decide on that quite yet.
I only have a beef with people that continuely be-little any women that may have been raped - it sends out the stigma that every women that says she has been raped, is a liar - which in the majority of cases isn't correct. I do know that there are some disgustingly low bitches out there that do cry rape for attention but please, don't let a minority ruin what help is put in place for women that actually need it.
Its strange that almost everyone here knows a girl who has been raped and yet also knows of a case of false rape allegation in their social circle/family.
I hate to say it but women have abused the term so much that these days my first gut response is to assume she is lying.
I never used to feel that way and it saddens me immensely that i now do...shouldn't be that way.
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#36
 2007-05-15, 13:16
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
I hate to say it but women have abused the term so much that these days my first gut response is to assume she is lying.
I never used to feel that way and it saddens me immensely that i now do...shouldn't be that way.
It's only my gut instinct to assume that she's lying when alcohol is involved.
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#37
 2007-05-15, 16:57
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Eh, i actually don't know anyone who was raped. The one girl who might have called "rape" basically just said i got too drunk to walk and then we had sex. And you know what? No blame. That isn't to say fucking with a girl who's passed out isn't fucked up, but i mean, if you're conscious, in my opinion, unless you say no it's not rape.
And if this chick really hated her, she'd just get the guy to rape her whilst wearing a mask in a dirty basement for three days. And wouldn't pay for her fucking alcohol.
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#38
 2007-05-15, 17:13
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Eh, i actually don't know anyone who was raped. The one girl who might have called "rape" basically just said i got too drunk to walk and then we had sex. And you know what? No blame. That isn't to say fucking with a girl who's passed out isn't fucked up, but i mean, if you're conscious, in my opinion, unless you say no it's not rape.
/close thread.
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#39
 2007-05-16, 22:35
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Re: Just found out a girl I care deeply about was raped
Rape her again.
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