Something needs to be done about autopsy. I'm sick of this. All he does is bitch, insult and complain. Something needs to be done here. Teasing regular members a little bit is one thing, but attack your fellow mods and super mods, I don't approve of these actions. Can we please try to figure something out here?

lawl.

Gee, great to know my opinion is taken seriously here.

No, it was more the fact that I had issues with autopsy the other day...



Although I delt with that myself.


Plus, IRC isn't really a forum matter, IMO. Go to zok if you have an issue? He's the channel owner.

You're overreactive, hypersensitive, and most of all easily offended.
For someone who claims they are a firefighter I am surprised my statements to you about not being a Marine Corps. soldier has made you become all sensitive and offended.

I grew up in a military family. My grandfather is a retired Vietnam veteran who flew Huey choppers in the Vietnam war. My mom is retired military, previously head of the Criminal Intelligence Division on her post.

My uncle is a retired Marine captain. It is no surprise my calling you out on not being anywhere close to SuperMan status for being a firefighter has offended you.

My issue is with you attempting to start shit with me every time I go in the channel. And banning me, what the fuck is that about? I'm just asking you to leave me the fuck alone already, I'm getting sick of this shit.

No, it was more the fact that I had issues with autopsy the other day...


I wasn't trying to be rude to you, you took it the wrong way.
Most of the emos in #totse on SlashNET.org do have problems with me, because I call them out on thier mendane existance and idiotic conversations they have about scat, cat shit, porn and "fapping".

So say what you want.

You're a half-op dummy. If I didn't think you could remove it I wouldn't have banned you. You act like some sort of fucking superhero.

My point is, you are nothing on the scale of a MArine corps. soldier. You fight fires, in a civilian environment. If you can't handle the truth, get the fuck out of the channel.

Well, you are a Super Moderator. I'd like to see that you have SOME say in this matter, though I think you should be emailing Zok and acidmelt.

I'd also like to see you with ops in #totse. This situation is ridiculous.

Holy shit! Someone is bitching about someone and it wasn't me?

Is my hour of infamy over?

*Snickers*

I got to go with Kate on this one though. As has been pointed out many a time, IRC has naught to do with the forums.

One of the reasons I asked to be made op in #totse was because I got tired to being kicked or kick/banned by autopsy.

After kick/banning him a few times [which he was able to undo himself] we have since seem to come to a sort of truce and I now find that I can indeed get along with him. :p

I lol'd.

Because IRC happens so fast and I can't be there all the time, I tend to have much more lax rules. All I really have to say about this is: Nobody is to ban a moderator, auto-op, auto-halfop, or auto-voice unless there's a damn good reason.

If you really can't stand to hear each other's insults then type /ignore (nick) and you won't have to listen to each other anymore.

And for future reference, anyone who is on the #totse access list as a halfop or higher can use /msg chanserv unban #totse - That will allow you reentry to the channel if you've been banned on purpose or accident.

I agree with MLoR. But, I also agree with Kate that it is not a forum matter. However, I think it was addressed in the mod forum for simple, easy access. No harm done, I suppose.

I think we've all felt the injustices of autopsy in #totse. It was much like when Ayden use to kick/ban people for no reason.

I think we've all felt the injustices of autopsy in #totse. It was much like when Ayden use to kick/ban people for no reason.

I banned him for having a hissy fit after I called him out on the issue.

Sometimes you guys are worse than highschoolers... come on, now.

If you really can't stand to hear each other's insults then type /ignore (nick) and you won't have to listen to each other anymore.

I guess this will have to do for now.

lol, Ayden was cool. I'm going to go de-voice some people in his honour.

Autopsy has banned me too in IRC, don't remember what for anymore.

You're a half-op dummy. If I didn't think you could remove it I wouldn't have banned you.I don't think half-ops can use the /chanserv unban command. Can't be sure though, but I think it's reserved for full ops.

LOL

I like Ayden as a PERSON. We get along fine now...

However, teh net powerz do unexplainable things to some people.

Well, anyhow. I won't ban you guys anymore.. I think there is a lack of observation for reasons I ban people, and of course nobody ever remembers why I banned them, probably because when I did kick or ban them they were talking out of thier skulls and subconciously you don't remember that for it isn't important to you, all you remember is I banned you.

So that is proof you were obviously doing something I thought was stupid.

The lack of observation though and failure to state what exacly I banned you for is misleading, as though I just banned you for no reason or no good reason, which is totally untrue.

If other people are expected to remember the exact reason you banned them, shouldn't you also be expected to remember why you banned them beyond "you must have been doing something stupid"?

I would hardly call MLOR's lack of description surrounding the event to be "proof" of anything.

The lack of observation though and failure to state what exacly I banned you for is misleading, as though I just banned you for no reason or no good reason, which is totally untrue.

Actually, I was just talking to myself a bit, not bothering anybody (exept for people who appear to be annoyed very fast ) and you banned me.

If other people are expected to remember the exact reason you banned them, shouldn't you also be expected to remember why you banned them beyond "you must have been doing something stupid"?

I already stated I banned MLoR for having a hissy fit over me calling him out on his attempt to appear like SuperMan and WOW us in teh channel because he is a firefighter.


I would hardly call MLOR's lack of description surrounding the event to be "proof" of anything.

I wasn't talking about MLoR, I was talking about everyone other than MLoR who said I banned them.

So, with the complaints set forth and my agreement not to ban or kick moderators or administrators, I am now presented with the same situation.

Someone want to explain why I am the only one not allowed to break rules, and everyone else is?

Have a look:

<autopsy> Panthrax = Cool, Scrubs = Gay
<Sapphirical> Afraid so
<lobotomy> k, yeah, now that you mention it :D
<MegaFangs> oi
<autopsy> So Panthrax is a Cool semi-homosexual.
<MegaFangs> fagirrical
<k> heh, glad i'm not the only one
<panthrax> Yay!
<MegaFangs> unban me from #bltc you fayg0t
<Sapphirical> You're gay, k
<Sapphirical> Heh
<MegaFangs> no u r
<k> yes, we've already established this
<panthrax> Nah, I can see why a lot of people hate Scrubs.
* autopsy sets ban on *!*kennedy11@cloak-B02D1576.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk
<Sapphirical> panny, voice :D
<panthrax> It's dumb humor.
<Sapphirical> Oh
<autopsy> Your bullshit won't last here.
<Sapphirical> Wanna make out, k?
* toraton gives voice to MegaFangs
* toraton whistles.
<foxinsox> Hahaha
<k> Sapphirical: i'll pass for now
<MegaFangs> haha
* MegaFangs talks while banned
<k> i *like* scrubs cause it's dumb humour
<autopsy> panthrax, I have friends who are RNs.. it's not dumb, it's completely retarded.
<MegaFangs> autopsy, you spelt "gay, as i am" wrong
* autopsy removes voice from MegaFangs
<toraton> :(
<autopsy> toraton, is there a reason why MegaFangs's dialog is interesting?
<toraton> He's worth a laugh.
<autopsy> What is the purpose of circumventing another op's user settings?
* lol-ur-bald-n-fat (~NerdFangs@cloak-B02D1576.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #totse
<lol-ur-bald-n-fat> hey autopsy
* lol-ur-bald-n-fat !
<toraton> autopsy, I dunno, you did it to me.
<toraton> By removing voice.
<autopsy> Well, you say funny, I say stupid.. what is your purpose in circumventing my user mode?
<toraton> What is your purpose in removing voice when I have set it?
<autopsy> toraton, that doesn't answeer the question, that avoids it.
<panthrax> Operator-bashing!
<autopsy> I set a ban first, you set voice for what reason?
<k> i know now
<lol-ur-bald-n-fat> yeah but to be fair...
<toraton> autopsy, I'm inclined to not answer your questions, because I don't have to.
<k> it's because you're so fucking petty
<panthrax> I don't have anyone to bash on...
* lol-ur-bald-n-fat !
<toraton> autopsy, So eat a bag of cock.
<panthrax> :(
<panthrax> I feel left out.
* AquaX_ (~AquaX@cloak-47BE0127.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #totse
<panthrax> I'll bash on Metaphysicist.
<pg> how can i promote my focus group for anarchist lesbian terrapins tia
<k> panny, talk to me =]
* autopsy sets ban on *!*NerdFangs@cloak-B02D1576.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk
<panthrax> Metaphysicist, you're old...
<panthrax> And, and...
<panthrax> OLD!
* autopsy has kicked lol-ur-bald-n-fat from #totse (autopsy)
* autopsy has kicked MegaFangs from #totse (autopsy)
<panthrax> Hah! I feel included now.
<AquaX_> good lord theres alot of weed crumbs in my keyboard :|
<toraton> autopsy, Haven't you had more important stuff to do?
<toraton> You've been saying that all day.
<toraton> I mean, I'm sick in bed.
<k> hey AquaX_ =]
<toraton> But you keep saying you're leaving.
<foxinsox> Haha
<autopsy> toraton, yes I do.
<AquaX_> hi
<toraton> Please, just leave already.
<k> +1
<autopsy> toraton, I don't have to.
<k> sup aqua
<toraton> You're right.
<AquaX_> nm just about to get baked and get some new tires
<toraton> I asked nicely though.
<k> autopsy: of course you don't have to, but maybe you should take a break
* foxinsox senses another fight coming on.
<k> AquaX_: nice weed?
<foxinsox> lulz
<panthrax> Taking breaks is for quitters.
<AquaX_> yea :D
<k> ah sweet
<autopsy> toraton, as long as you decide to be outrageous in your actions, I will present myself to you in the same way.
<toraton> Okay.
<toraton> Hey guys. Wanna see me clear the banlist?
<k> yeah!
<toraton> Jaykay.
<AquaX_> fuck my mom just made me fuck up my joint
<toraton> I'm not gonna do that.
<AquaX_> fucken comes running up the stairs when im rollin
<autopsy> Why did you remove my operator status yesterday when there is a thread in M&A about not banning or kicking operators or half ops toraton?
<k> fuck, why?
<toraton> I didn't ban or kick.
<foxinsox> tora, are you feeling better?
<toraton> I removed your status
<toraton> foxinsox, a bit, yeah. I've been cleaning the room a little.
<autopsy> Explain how this is justified.
<toraton> Sitting down for a moment.
<toraton> autopsy, No.
<toraton> :)
<toraton> I don't have to explain why I'm an ass and neither do you.
<toraton> Go whine about it dude.
<toraton> Find someone who cares.
<autopsy> So you're blatantly disregarding rules Zok set forth, with no explanantion?
<toraton> Watch, I'll do it again.
* toraton removes channel operator status from autopsy
<autopsy> Ok.
<toraton> That wasn't a rule.
<toraton> No kickbanning or banning.
<toraton> Didn't say not to touch status.
<k> cause i sure as hell don't, you don't care about us, do you autopsy?
<toraton> :)
>Chanserv< OP #totse autopsy
* ChanServ gives channel operator status to autopsy
-ChanServ- Opped autopsy on channel #totse.
<toraton> omg banz.
<Metaphysicist> Well the server will restore his op anyway
<toraton> Metaphysicist, yep.
<Metaphysicist> As it just did
<toraton> Not like it matters.
<Metaphysicist> lol
<toraton> I'M OUTTA CONTROL
<panthrax> I want removal!
* toraton removes channel operator status from panthrax
<toraton> TAKE THAT
<toraton> YOU SCALAWAG
<panthrax> OH NOES!
<toraton> Man
<toraton> Where is oneiros
* ChanServ gives channel operator status to panthrax
<foxinsox> Hmm
<foxinsox> o plz.
<toraton> I msg'd him
<panthrax> Who the hell is he, anyway?
<toraton> hopefully oneiros will come along and provide us with lulz and dongs
<foxinsox> He's the Man of 1000 Dongs.
<toraton> panthrax, server op.
* Cac0 (~jirc@cloak-907AEE83.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #totse
<k> can we get some fucking mentally stable ops in here already (or at least convince the unstable ones to tak a break)
<toraton> k, I'm pretty stable.
<k> hey calcium oxide, whats up
<panthrax> Since when does he come here?
<toraton> panthrax, For awhile.
<panthrax> And why does he show him as voiced?
<k> toraton: sure, ok, but please get autopsy to fuck off for a bit


Apparently removing status isn't a rule?
Everyone in the thread who has a problem with me and can prove I have broken any, state your opinions.. so I can deduce what the rules really are, or is this just a joke thread started by MLoR?

lolo.

I'd also like to see you with ops in #totse. This situation is ridiculous.

Refer to the IRC log above, apparently it's so important to you it is ridiculous, yet not so serious at the same time you break the rules, what exactly is "ridiculous" about it?

It's ridiculous that nearly every op hates you but that you're still opped. Granted, I'll get a stream of "I don't hate him" replies now, but whatever.

Let Zok reprimand me.

I don't hate him ^^

I mean, teh internets is srys buisness, but still :p

I don't believe you're an op, sybil.

It's ridiculous that nearly every op hates you but that you're still opped. Granted, I'll get a stream of "I don't hate him" replies now, but whatever.

It is ridiculous. Can you explain why you removing my status is justified?


Let Zok reprimand me.

I am not sure what you mean here.
I wasn't reprimanding you.. and if that isn't what you mean as in "Let Zok reprimand me not you" the only other thing this seems like without any elaboration, which you frequently are pretty undescriptive, is similar to how Ayden was removed as a half-operator when Acidmlet removed him form the channel access list.. for saying "Acidmelt can't do shit to me" or whatever was actually said word for word.

Can you elaborate what exactly you mean here?
Am I being too serious with you?
Explain so we can come to a better understanding.

Explain so we can come to a better understanding.

I don't like you. I don't think you should have operator status.

Stop trying to police IRC, Zok will do that. It's his channel.

Don't you two ever bloody stop? :(

I don't like you. I don't think you should have operator status.

I don't like some people either. Does this make your decision to remove the status justified? Explain.

You also did not explaoin nor offer an explanation for giving voice to MegaFangs, and when I asked you claim I did it to you by removing it, when in fact I had set a ban, not a voice command.


Stop trying to police IRC, Zok will do that. It's his channel.

I'm not trying to police IRC. I didn't start this thread. When you guys decide to be serious, I will also. In fact, I think I have been being serious, I fully respect Zok's request of using ignore rather than kick or banning people. You have admitted to blatantly disregarding the request with no explanation.

Can you state how I am policing the channel or trying to given the fact I did not start this thread, nor am the channel owner or founder?

Don't you two ever bloody stop?

Not really.
I had a serious conversation with foxinsox who is a friend or acquaintance of toraton's and we were able to come to an understanding of why me and toraton do not get along.

Apparently to toraton IRC is not the "real world", though as you can see, he doesn;t like me so he thinks he should remove my status. This confuses me a great dea.. and I don't think he even understands what he means by it.

When I try to engage in serious conversations with toraton he uses jokes and remarks that I am a hick, upon asking him exactly what a hick looks like he could not explain.

A VERY long conversation. In any case, at no time that me and toraton discuss anything does he present himself as being serious, as you can clearly deduce by his idea that IRC is "not the real world".

While I agree that IRC has no significant impact on any individual directly nor immediately, real people are REALLY using a communications medium and it's REAL name is called IRC.

Of course from my previous comments you wil already know that toraton has a lack of ability to elaborate on anything he says or has a disability to be precise. So what he means exactly by "IRC is not the real world".. is still uncertain to me, and until he can explain, I will be left to assume what he is meaning, and yes, I've asked him to explain plenty of times what he means, with nothing but jokes and/or attempted insults like I'm a gay Marine or I'm a hick to follow.

Well...I don't believe that you're Toraton.

What does that prove?

Excuse me sir, I'm going to need to check your IRC ticket.

dude, intrnt is srs bsns.

dude, intrnt is srs bsns.

I require a ticket, sir.

All personal shit aside, this issue isn't about Toraton vs. BiOPSY.

I'm not anyone's dad but I really think it would be proper of both of you to just stop bringing up your grievances with each other in this forum unless it relates specifically to the running of totse.com and moderation issues. If it's just personal shit, especially if it's regarding IRC, it doesn't belong in the Mods and Admins forum. Again, that's what I think, not some written rule or the opinion of the majority.

Zok will make a decision about what to do in IRC because he's the channel founder. He decision might be doing nothing, removing people from the Ops/HOps list, something completely different or even just not making a decision.

I would personally suggest that everyone let the Zokman take care of this and just walk away from this thread.

I do believe I need to check your IRC ticket-checking credentials.

Ok, no more thread.

Next issue there is, both parties will lose ops/hops (unless someone can convince me otherwise). If someone creates a dumb problem, they should expect a dumb solution. If there are any IRC related issues, please email me or talk to me on IRC. My information is in my sig.