GRRRRRRRRRRR


Right, basically, he's doing my fuckin' head in.

He told me he wouldn't talk to this girl who was sending him naked pics and text him saying (When he got with me) "as long as she knows your still mine", a long with cards I found saying "From your loving wife" and signed with her name and his last. Among other things.

And she's just fucking messaged me on MySpace "why don't you like me"

He called, he said he'd spoken to her "so fucking what, you're being weird" yea.... But I'm not allowed to talk to about 4 - 5 of my friends who I actually know in real life.

If I spoke to them I'd have hell to pay.

Cheeky cunt, it's fucked up.

God I hate how much of a hypocrite he is and how fucked up it is that he'd sit there and talk about me to someone he said he wouldn't talk to.

I wouldn't be as fucking bothered if he didn't act so brassic about it when I said to him and if he wasn't being so fucking sneaky.

He's got the cheek to then text me going "What the fuck are you like...So what I said something to her, big deal. You're being a bunny boiler", and yet when we were arguing about one of my friends, who he really doesn't like, I said the friend had a nice house and he totally flipped out "why the fuck are you defending him!!" I mean for fucks sake.


Cunt.

This is just something in a lo0o0o0o0ong line of bullshit.

Thats what you get for putting up with bullshit. Grow up and throw his ass out.

The advice won't get much better then this. Dump him.

Lose him in the fog.

Sounds like you're dating a fucking nutjob. Break up with him before he chains you up in the basement (and not in the fun way either.)

why are you still with him?

alarm bells tend to start rining when naked pix turn up...

Yeah seriously. Fucking ditch his nasty cheating ass allready.

If some bitch is sending him pictures and doing other creepy stuff, and he's not exactly pushing her away, you know that if he's not allready, he will soon be fucking her/cheating on you.


Dump the shithead. Please?

If you're angry and hurt at him, do you really want to stay with him?



Never stay with someone because you feel you wont be able to do any better. Never stay with someone out of nescessity, or for financial reasons, or for material possesions.

Trust me on this.
You can do better.

Thanks.

His defence is "it was before I met you", I mean he doesn't even know her but she's telling me she sees him as family. They've only been talking since December so it's not like they're old friends, and they hardly speak. But I'm just not comfortable with it.

Spoke to him a bit and apparently I'm crazy and he's not lied because apparently he spoke to her on MSN and she asked so he told her. But for fucks sake, he's always on the computer, I honest to god feel like I hardly see him, I'm on the verge of going home. I only don't because it gets sorted after a while, I've come close so many times.

If you're not his #1 priority, then he doesn't deserve you as a girlfriend. Drop that fool. He doesn't know what he has.

He sounds like a prat, darlin'.

Drop him. He ain't no good for ya. It doesn't matter to him that he's looking at some other chick naked and having some kind of relationship with her (internet or otherwise) but he has the cheek to have a go at you for having friends?! Cunt's got more front that fucking Sainsburys!

If I found myself in your situation I would have the other person out so fast they wouldn't even have time to say "Yeah but..."

Get rid of the prick.

Ta for all the replies, and you're right, I'm so close to leaving. Fair enough I can be a total bitch to him. But it's all stress, I don't feel particularly wanted, ya know? He'll tell me I am and he loves me and I wouldn't be here if he didn't want me, but it's nice to get told once in a while.

I think you should stay with him. Normal males shouldn't have to put up with someone that's fucked up enough to stay with a loser like your boyfriend. At the very least, find someone who's exactly the same and continue the cycle of unhappiness.

Wow, you're a cunt.

How am I fucked up enough, because you've only heard something bad and assume that I'm dependent or totally fucked in the head?

I remember other posts about your boyfriend. I hope you leave him. It's really the only good decision.

When they're just hollow words, then I can't see how they're nice to hear.

I'm sorry... I guess I retract my statement.

After all, it's normal to stay with a guy who's worthy of a 'I fucking hate him', thread on an internet forum (hell, most relationships reach the stage where one party is such a fucking loser that the other must request advice from the internet).

It's natural for people's partners to 'do their head in'. I hate being in relationships where I don't feel like I'm being mindfucked... women and men who don't play games are just not worth the trouble. I need excitement!

It's natural for people to date someone so insecure that they deny you the right to see a bunch of your friends... and then it's even more natural for them to ignore your request to ignore a single person who's making obvious advances toward them.

It's natural in relationships to accuse your partner of being sneaky. Relationships where people can be honest and open with each other, are, after all, unexciting (or fictional).

Oh, and it's also natural for a normal well adjusted girl to accept the fact that her boyfriend is accepting and keeping cards and sexual texts from another girl, without leaving the guy. Because honestly, if I was in a relationship with a girl that I cared for and someone else sent me a card, I'd keep it. Throwing it out would probably be the worst way to show that I'm disinterested and care more for my partner.

So yeah, I'm obviously a cunt and I retract my comment...

...you fucking idiot.

He's keeping his options open - you should do the same.

It'll make it a bit easier when you kick him to the curb.

How about you offer a threesome? Why is the solution always: DUMP HIM NOWWWW!

Offer a threesome, have some fun. C'mon, it's not as if he doesn't like you anymore. It's just nice to have something on the side. Why ya gettin so territorial?

Stop bitching and do something about it.

Thing is, I'd def consider a threesome. Just not the way I'm feeling now. In the last few months I've totally gotten insecure and paranoid. It's not a constant thing though, I just feel totally shit.
And he's not actually fucking her. If he was, I'd kill him.

Stop bitching and do something about it.

^^ It's so true.


Durell or whatever the fuck, I wasn't exactly trying to get advice, I was just angry and wanted to vent it. Problem? Fuck off. I really don't care what you think about the whole thing, call me an idiot, so fucking what? But I still think you're a bit of an ass. Oh well, I'm sure we'll both live.

Dump him and date someone from totse, i'm sure they'd be more grateful to have a girl around all the time to treat like garbage.

Beat his ass then dump him.

That'll show him.

Wow, you're a cunt.

How am I fucked up enough, because you've only heard something bad and assume that I'm dependent or totally fucked in the head?

Ask yourself a question. When you ask it, be completely honest with yourself. Here is the question:

"Do I want the bullshit to stop? Do I want his abuse to stop? Do I REALLY want it to all end?"

If you answer "yes", its time to kick him to the curb.
If you answer "no", I have nothing further to say and you will continue to feel like shit in this relationship.

Sorry to be a prick, but its really hard for me to be nice when I see people that bitch and moan about their relationship problems but never wise up and end the relationship when the other person wont keep monogamous.

I'm a better match than many people out there, yet the bullshit your sex is responsible for blinds you to good people. For your sake and people like me, stop being an immature moron and leave your bitch-ass boyfriend with his fuckbuddy.

Ask yourself a question. When you ask it, be completely honest with yourself. Here is the question:

"Do I want the bullshit to stop? Do I want his abuse to stop? Do I REALLY want it to all end?"

If you answer "yes", its time to kick him to the curb.
If you answer "no", I have nothing further to say and you will continue to feel like shit in this relationship.

Sorry to be a prick, but its really hard for me to be nice when I see people that bitch and moan about their relationship problems but never wise up and end the relationship when the other person wont keep monogamous.

I'm a better match than many people out there, yet the bullshit your sex is responsible for blinds you to good people. For your sake and people like me, stop being an immature moron and leave your bitch-ass boyfriend with his fuckbuddy.

He's not cheated on me. That I know of. And it's just, everything annoys me, and I've tried to leave him, but things always seems to get temporarily sorted and then it goes bad again, I'm going tos ee how this week goes and if it keeps fucking up then I'm going, because when we get on, it's great, but when we argue it's hellish.

And you don't sound like a prick to be honest.

Ask yourself a question. When you ask it, be completely honest with yourself. Here is the question:

"Do I want the bullshit to stop? Do I want his abuse to stop? Do I REALLY want it to all end?"

If you answer "yes", its time to kick him to the curb.
If you answer "no", I have nothing further to say and you will continue to feel like shit in this relationship.

Why can't the bullshit end but the relationship continue? Why is there only one clear-cut answer?

Sorry to be a prick, but its really hard for me to be nice when I see people that bitch and moan about their relationship problems but never wise up and end the relationship when the other person wont keep monogamous.

So stop being lazy.

I'm a better match than many people out there,

And modest, too...

yet the bullshit your sex is responsible for

Nevermind the bullshit all sexes are responsible for.

blinds you to good people.

Did you ever think your bullshit blinds you to the fact that everyone is a "good person"?

For your sake and people like me, stop being an immature moron and leave your bitch-ass boyfriend with his fuckbuddy.

I think you're just jealous.

And what if I am jealous? I still think clearly and see whats going on around me. I see an immature girl pining for an immature boy. Shall I give her the advice a parent would give or should I just give in and say "fuck him one more time and take his wallet on your way out"?

I seem to have given more and more useful advice than you on this matter, so please dont belittle advice that works simply because I point out some shit about the enabler in this relationship or because I havent had a gf. People dont change unless they want to, Rizzo. She wants him to change and to be his only woman. But he doesnt want that. He doesnt want to change.

Alot your bullshit lazze fair philosophy about seemingly everything does for you in the way of giving advice and realizing when to jump ship. For fucks sake, grow some standards and stand for something.

And what if I am jealous?

Then you are not satisfied with your current situation, and thus suffering.

I still think clearly and see whats going on around me.

Oh, you do now? So you see what really happens? You know what ACTUALLY is going on?

I see an immature girl pining for an immature boy.

And that's your subjective reality.

Shall I give her the advice a parent would give or should I just give in and say "fuck him one more time and take his wallet on your way out"?

Are those the only two choices?

I seem to have given more and more useful advice than you on this matter

Once again, entirely subjective.

so please dont belittle advice that works simply because I point out some shit about the enabler in this relationship or because I havent had a gf.

Oh, I wouldn't do it simply because of that, I would only do it because its wrong. Although I'm not trying to belittle anyone, just pointing out to people who think they have it right, where they're wrong.

People dont change unless they want to, Rizzo.

You're right. And you can influence what people want.

She wants him to change and to be his only woman.

Are you really sure that's what she wants? Is she really sure that's what she wants?

But he doesnt want that. He doesnt want to change.

You know this?

Alot your bullshit lazze fair philosophy about seemingly everything does for you in the way of giving advice and realizing when to jump ship. For fucks sake, grow some standards and stand for something.

Stand for something?

I think that falls under "worshipping false idols". I am not going to be intellectually dishonest or spiritually bankrupt.

Oh, and you don't "jump ship" when it comes to other people, especially when you care about them. A person is not a sinking ship.

It's funny because for some reason you think you're 100% right.

1) I'm not pining for him.
2) He's not cheating on me.
3) He's not got a harem of women, so really, I'm the only person he's with.
4) He doesn't want to change, but who likes admitting their faults. I still don't see where you got the idea that we're both stupid kids. He's 27, he's not exactly 12...

And from what I read, Rizzo didn't seem to be saying just put up with it or fuck him and rob him. What I got from it, and I may be wrong, was why give up that easily, it's not all black and white.

Judging by:

"Why can't the bullshit end but the relationship continue? Why is there only one clear-cut answer?"

Btw, Rizzo: I think you pretty much nailed it on the head there. Cheers.

Well, I'm not advocating anything in particular. You can't give pre-made advice for every scenario, every single situation is a living, breathing, organic problem that must be dealt with in a similar fashion. If you stop thinking of the world as something that's already been decided, and start thinking of it as something you can define, then you won't be so sure of your answers.

The only thing I can really do is help someone to help themself by asking questions.

Yea, I see what you mean.

I do like him when we get on, he just makes me so SO angry sometimes. It's all stupid things that could be easily sorted, but for some reason it isn't. I just didn't really know how to let go of it, so I made an angry post, lol, but thinking about it, it's not as huge as I previously thought. Though he still pisses me off really bad, lol.

It'd be great if you could have something that told you what you should do. Sure it might take the fun out of stuff, but just once in a while it'd be good.

It's funny because for some reason you think you're 100% right.

1) I'm not pining for him.
2) He's not cheating on me.
3) He's not got a harem of women, so really, I'm the only person he's with.
4) He doesn't want to change, but who likes admitting their faults. I still don't see where you got the idea that we're both stupid kids. He's 27, he's not exactly 12...

And from what I read, Rizzo didn't seem to be saying just put up with it or fuck him and rob him. What I got from it, and I may be wrong, was why give up that easily, it's not all black and white.

Judging by:

"Why can't the bullshit end but the relationship continue? Why is there only one clear-cut answer?"

Btw, Rizzo: I think you pretty much nailed it on the head there. Cheers.

And you know this for sure? Is that why he hesistates so much to leave behind those he once knew? Because he want to be only with you?

Maybe he isnt fucking behind your back, but this is just a symptom of problems to come unless he changes. You have already tried to get him to straighten up. If you wish to continue, I cant stop you, but I implore you to not be so foolish so as to keep the relationship going when it should be clearly obvious he isnt going to change. Alas I cannot afford that much hope to many people to realize when that time comes. Reminds you of the person who half-asses getting off the booze when he drives home at night until that lone night when he is hanging from a tree.

Rizzo, I dont think I can continue replying to anything you post, sufficing to say you post like you smoke WAY too much pot. Its really hard to take you seriously when you offer no advice at all and only belittle real advice. Not to mention you sound like you are trying to sell me the "get rich quick through God" books ala Joel Olstein.

I do like him when we get on, he just makes me so SO angry sometimes.

Isn't this true with all people, though? I like a lot of people, but they all can irritate me at times.

It's all stupid things that could be easily sorted, but for some reason it isn't.

Maybe not everyone thinks its a stupid thing? There's usually a big problem with miscommunication.

I just didn't really know how to let go of it, so I made an angry post, lol, but thinking about it, it's not as huge as I previously thought. Though he still pisses me off really bad, lol.


Understandable, it's hard to control pent up energy, especially the energy that comes from high-emotions.

It'd be great if you could have something that told you what you should do. Sure it might take the fun out of stuff, but just once in a while it'd be good.

=D

There are plenty of things that tell you exactly what you should do, most people just don't think it really works.

In my opinion you should re-examine why it is you need a relationship to be happy, or why you need to be in a relationship to love and have sex with someone.

Not saying you should think one way or another, but that you should think about it.


Rizzo, I dont think I can continue replying to anything you post,

It seems a lot of people who think they're right end up saying that to me. I don't understand why, but I'm inclined to believe I threaten them. Do you feel this way?

sufficing to say you post like you smoke WAY too much pot.

How much is too much? Is it a quantity, or the effect that it has on the mind? And if it is just the effect, it's not that I smoke pot, but it's the way that I think that you don't like.

So basically you're saying, "you post in a way that suggests you think in a way I don't like."

Its really hard to take you seriously

Once again, stop being lazy.

when you offer no advice at all

I offer advice in my own way.

and only belittle real advice

"real" advice? You sure think highly of yourself.

Not to mention you sound like you are trying to sell me the "get rich quick through God" books ala Joel Olstein.

I'm not trying to sell you anything. I feel that Socrate's elegantly said what I am trying to say, "I do nothing but go about persuading you all, old and young alike, not to take thought for your persons or your properties, but and chiefly to care about the greatest improvement of the soul. I tell you that virtue is not given by money, but that from virtue comes money and every other good of man, public as well as private. This is my teaching, and if this is the doctrine which corrupts the youth, I am a mischievous person."

And you know this for sure? Is that why he hesistates so much to leave behind those he once knew? Because he want to be only with you?

Maybe he isnt fucking behind your back, but this is just a symptom of problems to come unless he changes. You have already tried to get him to straighten up. If you wish to continue, I cant stop you, but I implore you to not be so foolish so as to keep the relationship going when it should be clearly obvious he isnt going to change. Alas I cannot afford that much hope to many people to realize when that time comes. Reminds you of the person who half-asses getting off the booze when he drives home at night until that lone night when he is hanging from a tree.

Rizzo, I dont think I can continue replying to anything you post, sufficing to say you post like you smoke WAY too much pot. Its really hard to take you seriously when you offer no advice at all and only belittle real advice. Not to mention you sound like you are trying to sell me the "get rich quick through God" books ala Joel Olstein.

I really don't get why you're trying to convince me my boyfriend has or will cheat on me.

And he's told me that she spoke to him and he told her, I mean he can't just ignore her. And he should have handled it a bit better and I'm still a bit annoyed, but it's not like I've totally avoided people he said he didn't like me talking to or whatever 100% of the time. Does that mean I'm cheating or want to cheat on him?

You're really negative. And so definite on your opinion. I agree with some of it, he probably won't change, but I'd rather give it a chance instead of just giving up.




Isn't this true with all people, though? I like a lot of people, but they all can irritate me at times.

Maybe not everyone thinks its a stupid thing? There's usually a big problem with miscommunication.

Understandable, it's hard to control pent up energy, especially the energy that comes from high-emotions.

=D

There are plenty of things that tell you exactly what you should do, most people just don't think it really works.

In my opinion you should re-examine why it is you need a relationship to be happy, or why you need to be in a relationship to love and have sex with someone.

Not saying you should think one way or another, but that you should think about it.

Yea, I'm normally the one saying it's not stupid and he thinks I'm over-reacting, and yea, I do do that sometimes, but he doesn't seem to get that it's all a build up of things.

And things like what? Because there's a chance I'd probably think it might work, lol, depending on what it was.

And I don't really know, I know I don't NEED him, he doesn't need me, we've lived without each other and been happy, but I do like the closeness and when I'm ready to leave and it gets sorted it's normally because he hugs me, then it gets all affectionate and I can't help but think of the good stuff.

Like I left him and stayed at a friends while I sorted getting home, when I was there and night and he stopped calling I was fine, but the second he was on about we can sort it, as aggressively (sp?) as he put it, I thought, well, I might as well give it a chance, and started to miss him.

Just read this (http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?p=8200715#post8200715) thread. Mawuahahahahaha, you're a fucking joke.

I imagine this guy is very similar to your past boyfriends... either that or your first. Really, that's the only excuse for this level of fuckwittedness.

P.S. Rizzo, stating that most criticism of the bitch's maturity is subjective is fantastic theoretics; however, people do tend to formulate a rough universal understanding of terms, in order to have some yardstick by which to compare people with.

Duck in Fog... does your garage have rafters?

Actually, he's nothing like my last boyfriend, or any previous.
Me and my last boyfriend were, and are, good friends. Your theory sucks.

Me and my current boyfriend don't hate each other, I was just angry so it might seem it, and like I've said a lot, when we get on it's great, it's just we're going through a massive rough patch and I'm unsure.

Still don't see where you get off judging me the way you have. Do one, mate.

And what you have said sounds pretty definite, negative, and somewhat self-defeatist.

I never asked for you to believe in what I say. I just posted what I think on a public message board the same as you have. He is 27. He isnt 12. Right? Why should he keep acting like the 12 year old on the playgtound that thinks he is the pimp?

It is not simply him not wholely giving himself to monogamy. It is deeper than that. It always is deeper than the simple things. Otherwise it would be so easy to change, dont you think?

I am not a pessimist. I am a realist. I see the world and what it does, who it screws over, who it crushes with unfair dealings, and the like. In such a world, it sounds so optimistic of me to be one of the few people who stand for something and offer advice to people who ask so they dont end up screwing themselves over.

This isnt the time that you are obligated to stick with it. He is not your son, and he is not your husband. You owe him nothing. You owe him no more second chances. The way is clear to abandon him if you must ever do so. If you wish to give him benevolence of the "next chance", it is of your own doing. Oftimes it is the altruistic that end up getting screwed the most. It is not pessimistic to say so, it is reality.

Stop making excuses for him and his shortcomings. It is the foot in the door that leads to abusive relationships and is a bad habit.

But this will probably fall upon the ears of the deaf and be the light to the blind. I cannot help you if you will not listen anymore than you can help your boyfriend if he will not listen.

Is this the same boyfriend from the linked thread? The whole 'I'm breaking up with him cause he rolled over after sex and I feel like shit *boohoo*' ? 'I wish he'd realise that he's wrong *boohoo*'. The guy with all the physical fighting and other normal relationship fun?

I've dated fuck-ups in my past when I went through my alcoholic, sleep with as many stupid bimbos as possible phase... you fit the template. So yeah, watch me judge. Most likely you have daddy issues, cause to stay with someone who's AT ALL like the guy in the linked thread or this thread, makes you a complete fruitcake. Most people are saying 'dump him', for a reason. When it's great it's great... is very normal... everyone on this forum who's dated has probably had numerous relationships where it was great when it's great. However, most of these real normal people have most likely lacked the shitfest you seem to be describing when both partners aren't getting their complete way. What you're describing is normal for unhappy marriages where one partner is an alcoholic fuck-up.

So, was daddy an alcoholic fuck-up? Did he beat your mother? Why the cycle of abuse?

Yes, you're right, however near it is to someone else's yardstick though, it is still subjective. You can not know objectivity, this has been "proven" through quantum physics.

I am a realist. I see the world and what it does, who it screws over, who it crushes with unfair dealings, and the like.

You are nothing of the sort. You have a big ego, that is all.

In such a world, it sounds so optimistic of me to be one of the few people who stand for something and offer advice to people who ask so they dont end up screwing themselves over.

Your ego gets bigger the more I talk about it. It knows it's being talked about and it loves the attention. :p

This isnt the time that you are obligated to stick with it. He is not your son, and he is not your husband. You owe him nothing. You owe him no more second chances. The way is clear to abandon him if you must ever do so. If you wish to give him benevolence of the "next chance", it is of your own doing. Oftimes it is the altruistic that end up getting screwed the most. It is not pessimistic to say so, it is reality.


I thought you were a Christian...?

Love is not about obligations, love is about LOVE, the pure bliss of love. To someone you love, you owe nothing but you would give EVERYTHING, at the drop of a heart beat.

The altruistic can NEVER get screwed. It is impossible.


But this will probably fall upon the ears of the deaf and be the light to the blind. I cannot help you if you will not listen anymore than you can help your boyfriend if he will not listen.

Take your own advice.

If her father WAS an alcoholic fuck up that beat her mother, would you really want to act like this?

It seems a lot of people who think they're right end up saying that to me. I don't understand why, but I'm inclined to believe I threaten them. Do you feel this way?

I say that because you dont actually listen to anything I post other than look for something to criticize. I am not threatened at all by you. You are an idiot that doesnt know when to hold his tongue and one that is not of much intellect by which to back up his sayings. People that are like that see it as a personal attack and instantly go to criticize, which you will no doubt do upon reading this.

How much is too much? Is it a quantity, or the effect that it has on the mind? And if it is just the effect, it's not that I smoke pot, but it's the way that I think that you don't like.

So basically you're saying, "you post in a way that suggests you think in a way I don't like."

Not at all. You know that I and Rust dont get along well at all, but I still respect him. I dont belittle and criticize everything he says.

I do, however, greatly dislike how your apathetic lifestyle governs what you post and the arrogance that you think you are correct.

Make no mistakes, I am a very arrogant person when I post, but I ALWAYS try my damnedest to be on the side of reason in so doing. I thank Rust for teaching me that lesson.

I'm not trying to sell you anything. I feel that Socrate's elegantly said what I am trying to say, "I do nothing but go about persuading you all, old and young alike, not to take thought for your persons or your properties, but and chiefly to care about the greatest improvement of the soul. I tell you that virtue is not given by money, but that from virtue comes money and every other good of man, public as well as private. This is my teaching, and if this is the doctrine which corrupts the youth, I am a mischievous person."

I find it utmost ironic that your philosophy is noble, but you yourself have nothing to offer me by way of betterment of the soul. Instead, you criticize people trying to do the same as you.

Perhaps you should take this as betterment for your own soul and give advice when it is asked instead of "do your own thing and it will always turn out well in the end" that your pot smoking ilk seem to suffer from.

It's just harder than it sounds making this decision.
I dare say we'll have a huge argument and I'll leave him and just not bother trying to sort it.

But I'm not making excuses for anyone. Just saying it how it is. Though maybe making an odd one here and there. ahh I don't know.

You are nothing of the sort. You have a big ego, that is all.

It seems that I offer the same real, useable advice others have. I may well have an ego, but that does not detract from facts and reality. You are a fool to think so.



Your ego gets bigger the more I talk about it. It knows it's being talked about and it loves the attention. :p

That was a construct to show the irony of what she said.



I thought you were a Christian...?

Love is not about obligations, love is about LOVE, the pure bliss of love. To someone you love, you owe nothing but you would give EVERYTHING, at the drop of a heart beat.

The altruistic can NEVER get screwed. It is impossible.


I am a Christian, not a bullshitter. You speak correctly of love. However you speak of it as though you yourself have given all of your possessions to the poor in Africa. But you have not done such; you fail at your own definition.

Or perhaps it can be said that you cannot discern between love of humanity and love between two people? That is the reality of what you mean.

The altruistic get screwed all the time. I thought YOU were a Christian. We know that the altruistic do not get screwed in the end, but you should also well know that you dont get jack shit for simply being a "good person". Or have I misplaced my memory and you are not really a Christian at all?

Do not pick and choose. You must give advice as a product of everything you know.

It's just harder than it sounds making this decision.
I dare say we'll have a huge argument and I'll leave him and just not bother trying to sort it.

But I'm not making excuses for anyone. Just saying it how it is. Though maybe making an odd one here and there. ahh I don't know.

Decisions are tough. But please think this through rationally. Is it better in the long run to simply stay with him and endure whatever may come, or leave him and endure one arguement? Pick a decision and go through with it no matter what petty arguements may come, either by me or by your boyfriend.

I say that because you dont actually listen to anything I post other than look for something to criticize.

I do listen, I probably come off as just criticizing you because that is a very bad habit of mine that I need to stop. So many years of arguing online...it stops now.

I am not threatened at all by you.

Then why the fight-or-flight response of "I can never talk to you again"?

You are an idiot that doesnt know when to hold his tongue and one that is not of much intellect by which to back up his sayings.

:(

It saddens me you feel that way.

People that are like that see it as a personal attack and instantly go to criticize, which you will no doubt do upon reading this.

However, this made me giggle. :p

you're no prophet, mr. argon!

Not at all. You know that I and Rust dont get along well at all, but I still respect him. I dont belittle and criticize everything he says.

I didn't know that, but this is good. You two are also mods, though, and that sense of mutual respect likely has something to do with it.


I do, however, greatly dislike how your apathetic lifestyle governs what you post and the arrogance that you think you are correct.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! You've got me all wrong, baby! I'm not apathetic! It's not that I don't care, I just see the meaninglessness to it all. And I've been working on my arrogance for quite some time now, I know I'm nowhere near correct.

Really, all I'm trying to do is help other people while at the same time getting my dopamine-distraction fix from totse.


Make no mistakes, I am a very arrogant person when I post, but I ALWAYS try my damnedest to be on the side of reason in so doing. I thank Rust for teaching me that lesson.

Reason ultimately destroys itself, although following reason up to this point is a worthy cause.

The thing is though, you're NOT being totally reasonable. You are proclaiming things as objective fact, when quantum physics shows that merely by observing something you interact with it, thus showing that objectivity isn't available to a subjective conciousness.

I find it utmost ironic that your philosophy is noble, but you yourself have nothing to offer me by way of betterment of the soul. Instead, you criticize people trying to do the same as you.

I am on my way to bettering my soul, and it has worked. I point out people's flaws in the hopes that they will correct them as I try to correct mine.

I've offered you plenty of advice to better your soul.

please though man, don't take anything I say as a personal attack. you're a cool guy, I like you, but emotion is very hard to display on the internet. you just see the words, and there is so much more to communication than words.

Decisions are tough. But please think this through rationally. Is it better in the long run to simply stay with him and endure whatever may come, or leave him and endure one arguement? Pick a decision and go through with it no matter what petty arguements may come, either by me or by your boyfriend.

Yea. Cheers, I think I do need to think harder because I've been thinking what I wanna do in arguments or just when things are going good, so it's probably a bit bias.


Also, no, my dad isn't an alcoholic, he doesn't beat my mother, closest they've gotten to physically fighting is when she accidentally shot a cork at his bollocks. They've got a great relationship, and I didn't get on with dad for quite a long time, but it wasn't anything that's really important, just growing up, and we're perfectly fine now.

It seems that I offer the same real, useable advice others have. I may well have an ego, but that does not detract from facts and reality. You are a fool to think so.

Your ego is making you thin that your subjective opinion is objective fact. You're being your own demiurge.


That was a construct to show the irony of what she said.

It can be more than one thing.

I am a Christian, not a bullshitter. You speak correctly of love. However you speak of it as though you yourself have given all of your possessions to the poor in Africa.

It is not what you do, but the spirit that you do it with. I have done many selfless things that would allow me to know Love, but I do not feel the need to justify myself by listing them all.


Or perhaps it can be said that you cannot discern between love of humanity and love between two people? That is the reality of what you mean.

What?



The altruistic get screwed all the time.

No, no they don't.

1. Altruistic get pleasure out of other people having pleasure
2. Someone gets pleasure out of thinking that they hurt the altruistic person
3. Altruisitic person is happy because that person is happy!

I thought YOU were a Christian.

I am, although a poor one.

We know that the altruistic do not get screwed in the end, but you should also well know that you dont get jack shit for simply being a "good person".

Are you kidding me? The only things worthwhile are those you get from simply being a good person.


Do not pick and choose. You must give advice as a product of everything you know.

Dear God.

I can not even begin to process that amount of information.

All I can use is what is at hand, or what God chooses to reveal. Although both are pretty much the same.

Then chalk it up to pigheadedness of mine. Your advice methodology of questioning works, I do admit. I oftimes use that myself. However, not everyone has the capacity to understand and answer truely deep questions.

It is like disciplining a child. Some of them do not understand that the stove is hot by mere words. You must give them a definitive correction and send them on their way. Some of them you can reason with and they take the hint.

I dont always think that many females have the reasoning that I have, thus I am obtuse, definitive, and authoritative in my dealings. The same way a father spanks his child when he cannot reason.

Are you kidding me? The only things worthwhile are those you get from simply being a good person.

Now who's twisting subjective opinion into objective fact? ; )

Then chalk it up to pigheadedness of mine.

No, I'll chalk it up to arrogance on my part. I could have avoided this whole situation by being incredibly clear in the first place. My bad man.

Your advice methodology of questioning works, I do admit. I oftimes use that myself.

:D

However, not everyone has the capacity to understand and answer truely deep questions.

I refuse to believe that! I have had MANY an insightful conversation with inanimate objects. :p

It is like disciplining a child. Some of them do not understand that the stove is hot by mere words. You must give them a definitive correction and send them on their way. Some of them you can reason with and they take the hint.

I belive only in self-discipline. No one truly learns anything except by experience. (in my opinion...)

I dont always think that many females have the reasoning that I have, thus I am obtuse, definitive, and authoritative in my dealings.

You're right, females DON'T have the reasoning you have. But the thing is, YOU don't have the emotional insight that THEY have. And BOTH are needed.

Now who's twisting subjective opinion into objective fact? ; )

:p

I should have prefaced that with, IMO...

You're right, females DON'T have the reasoning you have. But the thing is, YOU don't have the emotional insight that THEY have. And BOTH are needed.


And I shall not debate that. However, I didnt see that the situation really called for emotionalism as much as objectivism.

In any case, my pofession precludes that I have the balls to tell people that their hairbrained ideas wont work. Thus necessitating I act in such a manner as this. A great match, no? :D

Anyway, this is the Rizzo that I knew. Not one who is full of vain philosophy and pretensiousness, but one who has meaning to his philosophy.

I have been gone too long, I'm afraid. I don't know what happened to me.

Or maybe I was never gone at all?

Who knows? Who cares? :D

I feel kind of bad for turning every thread I post in into a way for me to achieve enlightenment. Although, I guess I don't.

Who knows? Who cares? :D

oooh, I could totally turn this into some sort of pattern thing. like poetry. or art. or music. or something

Who knows? Who cares? :D

is this abstract? or ironic? or just stupid?

Who knows? Who cares? :D

HAHAHAHAH

What the hell?

I remember you!

You bitched about this same boyfriend in some other thread like 2months ago!!!
And everyone told you to dump his ass back then too!

WTF!

Just fucking dump him!

Stop making excuses to yourself!

He's sounds like an insecure prick too me.

He surrounds himself with women to validate himself then forbids you to see guys because he's afraid of losing you cuz he feels inadequate to saig guys.

But damn lady, you stupid!

THEN FUCKING DUMP HIM. Thats all there is too it. If he wants to play all those stupid fucking high school relationship games, then simply tell him to fuck off.

There is no reason you should have to be putting up with that shit.

I am trying to think of how to phrase my words so you can realize how stupid you are, but I know your mind will block out these ideas before they reach you.

So I say stay with him for now, because hopefully one day you will be able to figure out for yourself why this behavior is a problem and how serious it really is.

Good Luck!

I love the cunt boyfriends who won't let the girl talk or have any association with their friends.

Can't have any outside influence or ideas messing up his control.