So I met this girl at a party or somethin and we got to talking. Eventually we started msg'in over msn and stuff nearly every other day and we'd see each other at alot of other parties and stuff too...Shehe started callin me to go to bars and stuff where she would be, often repeatedly, and asking when I would be at certain places and things. So anyway, after about a month or so of this circumstances ended up that we were both in her apt alone one night...Realistically I thought 'okay, so this is gunna go down'...but then...nothing. Seriously, the opportunity never came up, not even for a kiss...believe me I would know...it was like I was hanging around with a guy. Question - is this normal? Do girls not know that if they behave in certain ways guys will get certain msgs? The thing is it isn't as if we grew up together or anything, this all happened in like a month time frame...what the fuck? This ever happen to anybody here?

P.S.) I sprang like 60 bucks for a meal one night too...didn't even get a tug in the car on the drive home

Do girls not know that if they behave in certain ways guys will get certain msgs? ......

P.S.) I sprang like 60 bucks for a meal one night too...didn't even get a tug in the car on the drive home

There's your problem right there. Your attitude sucks. Even just reading your post you sound like a whiny self centered 15 year old . I'm amazed she wants you as a friend.

So your sayin that you would buy one of your guy friends a 60 dollar meal and he would just be like "well what a fine friendship we have". Thats bullshit.

P.S.) I know I'm an asshole and have been for several years...And I'm not 15

Dude - your her new female male friend. She sees you in the same way as a gay man. She'll tell you all her innermost secrets. She'll tell you about the guys she fucks.

Your a pussy - grow some balls. No, it's not normal. It will happen, but men, and most boys can stop it. Pussies can't.

I remember a quote from FastSeduction. "Dates are for women your fucking". Learn this quote. Don't pay for dinner until she fucks you.

Buying something for someone does not entitle you to something in return. You can't force or expect people to do what you want just because you bought something for them.

I actually fully agree with chumpion...It's ironic because a few years ago one of my friends had the exact same thing happen, yet I still didn't see it coming...he kept it going for like 2 years tho and it was exactly as you said, the girl told him about girls she thought about fucking and etc...we still make fun of him for it. Thats why I ditched this shit asap...The main point of the original post was just to point out how fucking ridiculous this practise is (basically having a friend of the opposite sex that you can bitch around simply because you know they want to fuck you and string them along)

Having friends in which you compromise parts of yourself, is usually fucking suffocating and I avoid that at all costs.

Seriously, life is too short. Reality gives us the option of doing what we want, or thinking of doing what we want, which is always unfulfilling.

The latter case, is what is happening mostly everywhere these days.

The latter case, is exactly what is about to inevitably change. Theres just too much bullshit in this world and our nature is calling us to be the animals we are.

I can almost SMELL it when a woman has so much baggage she is not even human. It happens when all you hear from her mouth is constant seeking of distraction, food, nice pretty objects, clothes... see a pattern? A neverending one? Same with guys. All these material things and external "beliefs" anything to avoid facing the fact that they have a sex drive, and that all is needed is right here in this moment... why? Because of conditioning, because we've been compromised as people, and will have to collectively regain touch with nature and our senses.

You must understand, to be anyone, and I mean mr jock or mr geek, you need to accept that every single moment you are not what you were a moment ago, and nothing can condition or limit who you are or what you do besides your own mind and the minds of others.

For example, go around one day and visualize yourself raping women, killing people, throwing cars around and smashing windows with baseball bats. Just walk around your job or school imagining a different reality, and that right there, the hilarity of it (keeps me amused) will show you just how much your own mind affects who you are to people and where you believe you stand with women.

It's nobody's fault but ourselves, or should I say those who lived before us and made it this way. It's our duty to take our lives back.

If you are foolish enough to waste your money hoping for something, then reality will bite your ass. If you show balls and say "no, actually I dont want to go to dinner, Im not hungry, I would rather do something more fun and physically active/mentally stimulating" maybe you might not snag her pussy that night, but Im betting she'll see you as different from the rest, and will catch her interest more.

Damn, who the fuck needs those 60 dollar dinners with $5.00 beers anyways. What a joke.

Yeah a lot of women do it. You're pretty much screwed.

I think Fuck's post should be its own thread since it doesn't seem to directly relate.

I'm thinking you should tell her how you feel about her although she probably just isn't attracted to you seeing the way you act around her. Keep her as a friend but you should move on.

There's your problem right there. Your attitude sucks. Even just reading your post you sound like a whiny self centered 15 year old . I'm amazed she wants you as a friend.

Jack, in all honesty you've been a lot less helpful lately, and it's getting annoying. On the off chance that this guy doesn't get his way with some girl, it's automatically his fault and he's a fifteen year old virgin? What the fuck?
Sometimes, circumstances just cause things to happen against our favor. OP, you're not a pussy, if you're getting mixed signals then don't think too much about it. She didn't want it and there's nothing you can do short of rape. It's up to you if you want to stay friends with her and see if something comes of it or not. Maybe you did something that changed her opinion of you, who the hell knows. Don't pretend to be an ass to get laid if that's not you because, quite frankly, it doesn't work.

Go ahead, Jack, call me a fifteen year old virgin boy too. Seems to be your answer to everyone these days.

Jack, in all honesty you've been a lot less helpful lately, and it's getting annoying. On the off chance that this guy doesn't get his way with some girl, it's automatically his fault and he's a fifteen year old virgin? What the fuck?

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Go ahead, Jack, call me a fifteen year old virgin boy too. Seems to be your answer to everyone these days.

I think you are missing the point. I can see why Jack said that just from this quote alone:


P.S.) I sprang like 60 bucks for a meal one night too...didn't even get a tug in the car on the drive home

Now do you see why he thinks his attitude sucks?

Well...that little piece was meant to be a bit of dry humor...I didn't actually expect a handjob on the way home after paying for dinner...I just meant it to illustrate how some girls let you pay for shit, ie.) a date, yet give nothing in return - being 'friends' in all other aspects of the relationship.

And her friendship isn't enough of a reward in itself?

Oh and jojobar, I'm just getting a little tired of the same old same olds, y'know? The daily 'OMG what do I say to her??!', 'she just wants to be friends' ,'how do I get her to put out?'

Truth is people, you get her wanting to be 'just' your friend then you've hit paydirt. Sure, you may not get laid by her but she'll open the door to wall to wall cunny if you let her.

In short, no, friendship is not enough. If you go into something expecting to get a fuck, then end up getting the runaround...I don't see how that is good for me. I have enough friends as it is, I don't need to 'blossom' any more. I apologise if this thread has been made before, but I don't think that makes my argument/rant any less valid...Maybe a better place for this would have been B and M, and for that, I'm sorry Jacky boy.