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Network Security and Hacking Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such iscompletely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Ammendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cellphone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cellphone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly ok. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net.

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Old 2007-05-06, 22:33
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i have a copy of my friends project and i need to bypass or make my file undetectable to turnitin.com so it cannot see my plagarism. can u please help me out and i know cheating is wrong... blah blah blah... ect.

my graduation of senior year depends on this and i have been injured badly recently and im a procrastinator.

i jus wanna know if i can encrypt my shit. thanks
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Old 2007-05-07, 00:15
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What does this thread have to do with NS&H?

Basically, to make it invisible, reorganize, reword and change structure. Simple enough, if you want to simply rewrite the paper from scratch.
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Old 2007-05-07, 01:29
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I'm not sure about encryption, seeing as the teacher/professor must be able to actually read what you've submitted.

I usually drag my document into word, and use the synonym function to change around the words to ones with similar meanings. (right-click on a word, and click Synonyms)
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Old 2007-05-07, 05:44
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A better option would be to slap a Copyright symbol on and warn the teacher not to tick the student-database checkbox, thereby not indexing your work in the Turnitin archive and only checking it against dud databases that are irrelevant to your work.

Justification: You will sue both the teacher and turnitin for copyright infringement if your work is indexed in their for-profit software.

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Old 2007-05-07, 06:37
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A better option would be to slap a Copyright symbol on and warn the teacher not to tick the student-database checkbox, thereby not indexing your work in the Turnitin archive and only checking it against dud databases that are irrelevant to your work.

Justification: You will sue both the teacher and turnitin for copyright infringement if your work is indexed in their for-profit software.

Interesting idea!
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Old 2007-05-07, 20:58
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A better option would be to slap a Copyright symbol on and warn the teacher not to tick the student-database checkbox, thereby not indexing your work in the Turnitin archive and only checking it against dud databases that are irrelevant to your work.

Justification: You will sue both the teacher and turnitin for copyright infringement if your work is indexed in their for-profit software.

The only drawback is when they do it anyways without your consent, they find out the work you copy wrote isn't yours at all and you fail the assignment/course/school.
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Old 2007-05-07, 21:17
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I saw this several weeks ago, and after your post I immediately thought of the story. On the other hand you could just do your report on your own!

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Four students from Arizona and Virginia have filed suit against plagiarism detection system Turnitin.com, arguing that the service engages in massive copyright infringement. The lawsuit, filed this week in a Virginia federal court, claims that the infringement is willful and that Turnitin's parent company iParadigms owes $150,000 for every violation.

Turnitin gives school districts an automated tool to search for instances of plagiarism. Students are generally required to submit their work to the site before receiving a grade on it, and the service returns an "Originality Report" on each paper. At Virginia's McLean High School, which two of the plaintiffs attend, students have no choice: failure to submit a paper through Turnitin results in a 0.

Judging by their lawsuit, students don't think much of this system. "The Turnitin system is capable of detecting only the most ignorant or lazy attempts of plagiarism by students without significant monetary resources," says the court filing, "and is ineffective if a plagiarist does anything aside from virtually exactly copying another's work, or obtains his or her paper from a pay web site."

But what bothers them most is the fact that Turnitin archives submitted work in order to build up its database. These student papers are then used to look for plagiarism in future submissions. The students allege that this is copyright infringement. Turnitin has known for years that this would be a sensitive issue, and in 2002 commissioned an opinion (PDF) from law firm Foley & Lardner. The group concluded that the use of the papers constituted fair use, but admitted that "the archival of a submitted work is perhaps the most legally sensitive aspect of the TURNITIN system." The lawyers argue that because the text is not displayed or distributed to anyone, it can hardly be called "infringement."

The students disagree, of course, and allege that parent company iParadigms "may send a full and complete copy of a student's unpublished manuscript to an iParadigms client anywhere in the world upon request of the client, and without the student's permission."

After the McLean school adopted the system, a group of offended students banded together and hired a lawyer to send Turnitin a letter in September 2006. The letter generated a strong response: Turnitin filed for a "declaratory judgment" from a federal judge in California, looking for a ruling that its service was legal. In that case, filed in early December, the company claimed once again that it was protected by the fair use exemption, and that it was actually protectng student copyrights. "Rather than infringing intellectual property rights, iParadigms is trying to protect copyright interests by students and other authors by preventing plagiarism of the very student papers that Turnitin receives," the company wrote.

iParadigms abruptly pulled the case without explanation two weeks later; according to the new filing from the students, this only occurred after the company was contacted by a Washington Post reporter.

The case is now in the hands of another federal court on the other side of the country, and it will center on papers from the four students involved. That means that "DBQ1: Ancient Greek Contributions," "What Lies Beyond the Horizon," "Under a Pear Tree," and "Day is Weary"—student papers with little monetary value—could eventually cost iParadigms $600,000 should the company be found guilty. If the students prevail, the company's current business model would be substantially damaged, and a vigorous fair use defense is expected

Source: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ringement.html
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Old 2007-05-08, 04:48
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http://tinyurl.com/28r94a

I cannot vouch for it's validity. It sounds good though.
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Just rewrite all the sentences. If your friends used quotes from another source, copies those too, so that they show up as references instead of copying/pasting.
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Old 2007-05-10, 07:15
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I saw this several weeks ago, and after your post I immediately thought of the story. On the other hand you could just do your report on your own!

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Four students from Arizona and Virginia have filed suit against plagiarism detection system Turnitin.com, arguing that the service engages in massive copyright infringement. The lawsuit, filed this week in a Virginia federal court, claims that the infringement is willful and that Turnitin's parent company iParadigms owes $150,000 for every violation.

Turnitin gives school districts an automated tool to search for instances of plagiarism. Students are generally required to submit their work to the site before receiving a grade on it, and the service returns an "Originality Report" on each paper. At Virginia's McLean High School, which two of the plaintiffs attend, students have no choice: failure to submit a paper through Turnitin results in a 0.

Judging by their lawsuit, students don't think much of this system. "The Turnitin system is capable of detecting only the most ignorant or lazy attempts of plagiarism by students without significant monetary resources," says the court filing, "and is ineffective if a plagiarist does anything aside from virtually exactly copying another's work, or obtains his or her paper from a pay web site."

But what bothers them most is the fact that Turnitin archives submitted work in order to build up its database. These student papers are then used to look for plagiarism in future submissions. The students allege that this is copyright infringement. Turnitin has known for years that this would be a sensitive issue, and in 2002 commissioned an opinion (PDF) from law firm Foley & Lardner. The group concluded that the use of the papers constituted fair use, but admitted that "the archival of a submitted work is perhaps the most legally sensitive aspect of the TURNITIN system." The lawyers argue that because the text is not displayed or distributed to anyone, it can hardly be called "infringement."

The students disagree, of course, and allege that parent company iParadigms "may send a full and complete copy of a student's unpublished manuscript to an iParadigms client anywhere in the world upon request of the client, and without the student's permission."

After the McLean school adopted the system, a group of offended students banded together and hired a lawyer to send Turnitin a letter in September 2006. The letter generated a strong response: Turnitin filed for a "declaratory judgment" from a federal judge in California, looking for a ruling that its service was legal. In that case, filed in early December, the company claimed once again that it was protected by the fair use exemption, and that it was actually protectng student copyrights. "Rather than infringing intellectual property rights, iParadigms is trying to protect copyright interests by students and other authors by preventing plagiarism of the very student papers that Turnitin receives," the company wrote.

iParadigms abruptly pulled the case without explanation two weeks later; according to the new filing from the students, this only occurred after the company was contacted by a Washington Post reporter.

The case is now in the hands of another federal court on the other side of the country, and it will center on papers from the four students involved. That means that "DBQ1: Ancient Greek Contributions," "What Lies Beyond the Horizon," "Under a Pear Tree," and "Day is Weary"—student papers with little monetary value—could eventually cost iParadigms $600,000 should the company be found guilty. If the students prevail, the company's current business model would be substantially damaged, and a vigorous fair use defense is expected

Source: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ringement.html
That's mad I hope they win
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