I have a book called "The Book of Secrets" by Osho, which is basically about Tantra and meditation.

There is one specific chapter in which he says the confusion of our society is that our minds have taken over, and we go on thinking about sex instead of doing it. This is why we see so much "hankering after sex" in his words.

He says the reason women are so miserable is because theyre sexually unsatisfied, what with most men seeking to "bust their nut" and right afterwards running out of energy. Now, usually to us this doesnt seem like an issue...

He goes on and on about this, as if this energy shouldn't be thrown in such a way, unless a child is needed. Ive been thinkin a lot about it, and it's definitely true that I do feel a little energy-depleted after jizzing a few times, even with ball pain... In fact I remember times when I was with my ex that I felt absolutely drained, while she was still horny as ever... which can eventually lead to the woman wanting another man to please her completely different sex drive.

So anyways I thought a lot about it as well as premature ejaculation websites I used to read, and I've decided Im going to put myself to the test. I've realized Im completely uninterested in this fantasy "relationship" security, because Im one of those people who loves being alone instead of despising it. So the plan is to start macking it to these girls at my job (who basically gawk with jaws dropped at my arms but I never give them any play because they THINK too much) and then try to not cum.

Theyve thrown every signal out there showing they want to fuck the shit out of me, but the thing is, I think girls are so used to these guys who bust in a minute that they dont remember what great sex felt like...timeless...slow, hard, not going anywhere, not seeking anything.

I dont care if I go too slow and they get bored, or I go too hard and it hurts and they leave. The plan is, for this entire year if I can, to not cum once. To not let a drip of semen leak.

I started talking to a girl at my job tonight. I easily froze her attention, she just got out of a 6 year relationship and I told her I havent been in one in 5 years. Im trying to get her to open her mind to the fact that relationships are for insecure people, so that she will just let her sex drive do what it wants (which is to fuck me by the way her body speaks everyday).

Thing is I want to fuck quite a few others who Im sure Id have a chance with, but that might not be easy with all of them knowing each other.. I mean even if I fucked up and everyone hates me in the end, I just dont care. Im going to probably be leaving by July, so my 2 questions are this, totse:

Do you have experience of actually intentionally not cumming, at ALL, and what would you do if you finally conditioned your body to the point of grabbing the attention of many females, but you want all of them, and refuse to "settle" with just one?

She'll be at work tomorrow night too. My plan is to either get her talking about sex (tonight was relationship talk) or hit on another one of the girls there, to kind of plant some seeds so to speak to see which will be the ripest.

But the whole time, I am going to try my best to withhold from the orgasm, have great sex and just pull out, walk away and say "k Im done!"

Thoughts?

Some people masturbate with their hands. Some use other devices.

Some feel the need to make long winded posts....

To each his own, I guess.

Have fun with prostate cancer in 40 years.

The fuck is Osho?

Isn't that where I buy tools?

I'd rather just bust a nut.

If a guy didn't cum and just stopped with no explanation, I would be very confused. Maybe you should let them in on your schemes before you sleep with them.

Is it not human biology that whenever a guy jizzes, he's going to feel tired.

Sometimes after I cum, I could fall right to sleep.

I sound like a selfish bastard, but it's true, I'm just one drowsy boy.

^^^ these people are boring

I've been thinking of stuff like this myself, especially the whole energy/draining part of it.

I think women are naturally "sluts" because the easiest way for them to gain energy/power is for them to recieve it through a man. The more men's energy they take in, the more powerful they are.

Men, on the other hand, generate their own energy/power, and having sex/masturbating is a total waste of it.

I think you're wrong about relationships being only for "insecure people". Read up on some of Samuel Aun Weor's white magic. If in a relationship/during sex you can create a closed circuit with your partner...well, then everything else is moot and you've just entered into bliss.

But the whole time, I am going to try my best to withhold from the orgasm, have great sex and just pull out, walk away and say "k Im done!"

Thoughts?

I think you'll get frustrated in a week.

I like you better and better all the time Rizzo.

I'm curious, as always. How do women become "powerful" thru man? What kind of "power" is it?

It's hard to explain because I only have a small clue as to what I'm talking about, but in this sense I think "power" means, "will". As in, the ability for your conciousness to have control over itself, not being a slave to biology or chemistry or anything else. Mind over matter.

It's only a vague idea for me at the moment, but it seems to have some validity.

It's hard to explain because I only have a small clue as to what I'm talking about, but in this sense I think "power" means, "will". As in, the ability for your conciousness to have control over itself, not being a slave to biology or chemistry or anything else. Mind over matter.

It's only a vague idea for me at the moment, but it seems to have some validity.

It would have made more sense if you hadn't mentioned women acquiring this power from men.

I think you'll get frustrated in a week.

See that's just it.

and this is hard to put into words, its more of a feeling now than I can relay with thought.

It's such amazing, great energy that we toss it because it's so powerful we cannot handle it. If one is to let their mind control them and does not move their energy continously (which I do in a variety of methods every day) of course frustration will follow. I believe the life energy in semen is directly related to control over your body and actions, and to sit there and be so full of energy is to be "too" aware, almost too powerful, which the mind cannot handle and it becomes frustrated. But if you do something, art, music, dance, swim, ride a bike, even go to sleep, if you engage completely in something, you are using your energy stores as they are supposed to be used, and you will never see frustration. But I'm going to experiment with this to find out for myself. Only time will tell.

Id also like to add Ive had a few sexual encounters in which I did not ejaculate, and definitely did not feel tired afterwards, but I never had considered that was actually deep bliss. Its like running a marathon then standing still and taking in deep breaths and water vs running a marathon and then not refreshing yourself.

I mean youve got to consider, this power is creation, to create another child that will run free and do good, evil, whatever. That's a VERY powerful force and I think we really underestimate this energy for what it is because society doesnt REQUIRE us to use it, just like you can get by being obese, lazy and whiny because society has adapted to allow this.... but it doesnt mean it SHOULD have to be this way just because it is.

I know for sure by observing my own sex drive and those around me, those who never have sex OR jerk off always have this strange powerful aura about them as if they are storing a lot of energy. The problem lies when they do not move their energy, and just sit there and think "sex is bad, sex is bad, no sex" I think their error (and the error in religion) is that we've interpretted wrong, and become hateful towards sex (which is their attitude) but I think deeply the hatred is towards wasting energy, and not understanding sex without seeking an end can be blissful. And I'll also add, that maybe it's beneficial to spray a load once in a while, Ive even heard of men in the east who would cum once every season, and fuck HUNDREDS of women year round without losing a drop. Osho says some wild stories, but he's VERY insightful, you guys should look him up.

Im not sure if I mentioned this in my first post, but once with my ex I was lying deep inside her and it felt so good, then she said "wouldnt it be nice to just fall asleep like this"... there were other times where just at the right movement, going slow and deep, Ive brought her to orgasm... see, that moment right there was perfection, bliss, not going anywhere, not losing erection by inactivity, not losing it by cumming, remaining in the moment with your energy and moving it. This is directly related I believe with how one talks, walks, EVERYTHING you see around us is energy moving and we are not different from it.

I can understand why many people here would doubt this and say it's stupid, and it's because we are mostly conditioned to ways others have taught, who havent seen a lot of things Ive seen, which is why I dont identify with a lot of people around me. But I want to say this: I truly feel the orgasm, (the male one at least) is meant for children, and we feel so great during it because nature THINKS we are creating another, which is essentially throwing a great deal of life energy into the universe. But we do it all the time and it ends up in the sink or washed away.... as if it is nothing. THIS I believe is a bigger problem than we estimate.

But, as with all things I plan to test it out myself, just as many others have said I could never do this, that, or this, and I have proven them wrong every time.... let's see if I can do it once again.

The reason it's easy for me to be smoother with the ladies is because Im not seeking some future event, seeking to "get off" or seeking anything but to be fully in the moment. This is our gift as human beings and I dont think we take advantage of it enough. Thanks for the feedback though.

Sexual energy = life energy
sexual orgasm = release of energy
too much release of energy = wastage, drainage, lifelessness
too much energy = hey, maybe I will get prostate cancer. Maybe not though. Guess it's up to me how I move all that sexual energy in me, within this lifetime. :D

Wow, what a fucking crock of shit.

You'll just piss out the excess. Have fun not having fun...

I think your gonna blow your load accidentally.

Sexual energy = life energy
sexual orgasm = release of energy
too much release of energy = wastage, drainage, lifelessness
too much energy = hey, maybe I will get prostate cancer. Maybe not though. Guess it's up to me how I move all that sexual energy in me, within this lifetime. :D


I have to admit it makes some sense.

Wonder if this sort of lifestyle can eventually give humans some wicked superpowers.

Have fun cleaning up your "bust" when you wake up wet, buddy.

I think you're missing the point.

http://www.tantraheaven.com/articles.htm

It's possible to have a feeling of orgasm and still withhold the semen. I've actually accomplished this once in my life and it was the strangest thing ever. It made me think about sex in a new way, and it came from repeatedly getting to that point and holding off.

Blowing my load "accidentally" wont happen because Im a strong willed person, more than anyone I know I have set out to do many things and completed them without missing a beat. This is just another. The strong intention to not release WILL cause me to become stronger in getting to that point, and stopping which means better sex and more energy, for me and the woman. There will be no accident and if there is, well, it's just another load. Doesnt mean I need to waste 10 a week......

Its like the reason my friends wont work out then they tell me how strong Ive gotten. They wont face the moment, that the working out IS the ends AND the means. They just want the body without the work, just like most guys want the load, without working up to it. Everyone just wants to be in the future, you can see how absorbed people are in their own minds by the way they bend and walk, as if they are trying to rush to some future event when all that exists is the present moment

I mean, ever notice how great it feels to cum after an hour of sex vs. 10 minutes? Or even, to jerk off to the point of near orgasm for a week, then only cum on the last day? Try that at least once and youll see exactly what I mean, as unorthodox as it is, this is something that really holds my interest and Im starting to REALLY break away from what everyone around me says is the truth. Then why are they so fucking miserable, unfocused, instantly scared... how come it seems my attention stays while everyone hangs their heads down, and walks as if theyre trying to be in 2 places at once. Could it be, the difference of trying to be in the present moment, and being run by your own thoughts? I think so :) I think you can only see that if you truly open your eyes, and I mean really open your eyes and realize many of our own problems are creations of the mind and don't even really exist!

This post doesnt come from too much thinking. It comes from too much close observation.

The girls dont want a guy who is going to go after them immediately like a drooling dog, its like hes trying to cum already. Their nature KNOWs he will be bad in bed, so they act like bitches because theyre BORED with these guys. A man who can "stand his ground" has "balls" (doesnt throw his semen every 5 minutes) because he focuses his energy, and thats why musicians, weightlifters, anyone truly centered in something, can be very attractive to women in a certain way.... see how I'm drawing the lines here?

Our attention and willpower and focus are something different from our mind and bodies. Our minds and bodies are more like machines and consciousness is like the electricity. It's when our mind runs off course, and we start identifying with it too much, that we become blind to our potential, just purely powerful, naked potential to be anything and do ANYTHING we want.

Great post. Post more.

Spiritual energy transfer, my ass.

Sex is a biological function, our brains contain a cocktail of at least tens of thousands of neurotransmitters that create moods. Orgasms release selections of neurotransmitters that cause these complex feelings.

Same idea, one could say.

Ya Swany, i agree with you.

What is it with this spiritual energy crap? played to much yu gi oh or pokemon or something?

lol, "grammer"

Everything operates at different levels at the same time.

Here are the works of Osho just in case anyone's interested

http://rajmittal.com/blog/osho.htm

Plz dont read a book and post your new sexual-philosophical outlook and how you are right about how sex should be. KTHX.

I got a better idea, how bout you do what you want, I do what I want, you believe what you want, and I'll continue to believe everything around me is full of shit.

LOL OMGZ teh matrixes r taken neo!!!!!!!!!1111

LOL OMGZ teh matrixes r taken neo!!!!!!!!!1111

amazing.

, what with most men seeking to "bust their nut" and right afterwards running out of energy. Now, usually to us this doesnt seem like an issue...

this happens because of a hormone release called prolactin. It's not scientific theory, its fact. The hormone both causes both some drowsyness and lowers the sex drive for a minimum period of 1-2 minutes.

this happens because of a hormone release called prolactin. It's not scientific theory, its fact. The hormone both causes both some drowsyness and lowers the sex drive for a minimum period of 1-2 minutes.

Ah come on, the old wise men of the East surely know better.

this happens because of a hormone release called prolactin. It's not scientific theory, its fact. The hormone both causes both some drowsyness and lowers the sex drive for a minimum period of 1-2 minutes.

And psychedelics induce religious/spiritual experiences.

Chemicals are responsible for all things at some level.

some level.

Because everything is inter-connected and the idea that you can seperate the sciences from eachother, or science from religion and philosophy is absurd.