Basically my friend stayed the night over at his friends house and there is an eight year old girl over there who really likes him. He slept in the same room as her and started hugging on her, feeling her up, ect. Basically it got to the point he stuck his hand down her pants and rubbed her vagina a couple times.

She didn't even really acknowledge it, didn't say anything about it or fight it. One time she opened her legs a little wider and another time she wrapped her arms around his neck. She also keeps saying things like she wants to go live with him. Her dad is borderline abusive and her family is poor, so that kind of makes sense.

Still, my friend is wondering what is going through her head, and wether she knows what is going on. Does it seem weird she would just let him do it?

I told him the whole thing was a bad idea, so you guys don't need to bring up that fact.

congratulations, your friend is a child molester.

Your friend is sexually abusing an eight-year-old girl, and you're wondering what's wrong with her?

Jesus christ, an eight year old needs a father figure, not a fuck buddy.

No fucking shit. Did you read the question in the post?

I give your reply an F for being off topic, for being too short, and for not having a thesis statment or conclusion.

I would think the normal response would be to resist a little, or tell, or something -- can an eight year old even get sexually aroused?

No fucking shit. Did you read the question in the post?

I give your reply an F for being off topic, for being too short, and for not having a thesis statment or conclusion.

yeahhhhh sorry i didnt feel the question of "whats going through her head" was the important one. i think "why am i friends with a child molester?" should be the question you ask yourself.

you must be just about as fucked up as your friend to not find his actions fucking appalling.

I would think the normal response would be to resist a little, or tell, or something -- can an eight year old even get sexually aroused?

Eight-year-olds don't understand sexual activity like older people do. She might get some pleasure from the act itself (girls as young as 3 years old can be known to masturbate, even if they don't understand it as such), but she doesn't know what he's doing, doesn't know what she's doing, and doesn't understand any of what's going on.

Eight years old is old enough to remember this kind of thing. When she gets old enough to understand it, I do believe it'll fuck her in the head. Your friend has some serious problems if he's justifying these actions by saying "well she's not running away or anything". EDIT: And you have some serious problems if you're concerned about anything other than the fact that your friend is abusing a prepubescent girl who sounds like she's your other friend's sister.

Eight years old is old enough to remember this kind of thing. When she gets old enough to understand it, I do believe it'll fuck her in the head. Your friend has some serious problems if he's justifying these actions by saying "well she's not running away or anything". EDIT: And you have some serious problems if you're concerned about anything other than the fact that your friend is abusing a prepubescent girl who sounds like she's your other friend's sister.

QFMFT

Because she wants some fucking attention? Some affection?
At that age, she's possibly not going to know that it's sexual to HIM, but that it feels like it should be nice for HER.


Fucked up. Fucked up fucked up fucked up!

Sounds to me like the girl has been abused already and has learned 1.to equate sexual acts with being a 'good girl' and 2. has conciously learned not only to take pleasure from them but to exploit her sexuality.

A heady and dangerous mix.

Oh and your friend needs some quality time alone with Bubba.

Kids are natually curious, and are definitely not as innocent as they lead you to think. I was a kid once, I would know...

I agree with the above person but do you think you are born innocent, you just lose it and have to reclaim it? You can lose it at different ages or never lose it at all, same as you can get it back whenever or never get it back at all.

Innocence is ignorance. The sooner you lose it the better. Parents go out of their way to stop children from knowing about the real world, and imposing their false morals on them. They try to make kids into these perfect dolls, so they can be what they never had in life.

But what if you understood it completely so there was no ignorance? Would you go back to being 'ignorant' and innocent as it were?

You would still know if exposing to something they weren't ready for would be harming them, so you wouldn't go out of your way to do it would you?

Your friend is really fucked up and you need to do something. Like violently do something. And then turn him over to the cops.

But am I the only one that thinks that her response to sex is the normal one and as we get older we get more and more fucked up? It obviously is going to fuck her head up due to the society we live in, but it seems that she is taking pleasure for what it is. When we say she doesn't understand sexual activity, she just doesn't understand the things that society has tacked on to it. While I think the age difference is a lot fucked up (and the incest thing if they were related), if kids want to play around, why can't they?

I feel more sorry for her. Not just because what happened, which in and of itself is somewhat bad. The fact that it will fuck up her head is mainly because of the way our society puts shame on sex. Good luck man and step in on this one or at least go to the cops. We don't need another generation of fucked up kids.

I would never choose to lose knowledge. Even if something were to be the worst experience of my life, theres always something to be learned from it. I would never choose to be ignorant.

The reason why children get emotional fucked up from older people touching them (as long as it's non-violent, or weird in any way) is because of society's reaction. If a younger person were to do that with an older person, they have to keep it a secret, and do it alone with them. They can't be open about that relationship. If it is found out, the older person will go to jail, and the younger person will be sent to therapy and have a whole barrage of people saying "poor you" "it must have been terrible". Of course the younger person is going to be fucked up, everyone is telling them they're "fucked up".

You both make perfect sense.

But knowing that, you would know that putting this to a child as society is at the moment would destroy the potential of that child as they are developing and starting to realise their potential and how things are received.

So you would consciously be doing wrong, wouldn't you?

An eight year old would let a grown man touch her because she doesn't know that he shouldn't be doing that because of his age, and trusts him because he's older and wiser. He's abusing her trust of him. That's really, really fucked up man. I can't believe that you're asking the question of why she would let him do that. It's fairly obvious, you know.

Exactly.

If a child were to grow up in an understanding society, full of people who do not put shame on things because of their false morals, then the child would be a lot more happier, confident, and successful. Fuck, I know that if I had a relationship with an older person when I was young, I would not have trouble looking women in the eyes. I have a real confidence problem myself when it comes to talking to girls. Why? I was isolated from intimate relationships when I was young.

I would think the normal response would be to resist a little, or tell, or something -- can an eight year old even get sexually aroused?

No, thats not the normal response. Especially not when theres a history of abuse. Children are afraid, and afraid that telling would get them in trouble. They dont know any better.

With that said, of all the decadence found here on totse, i think you may have just won the award for the single most disgusting piece of shit on here. You're friends with someone who admits to molesting children, and keep your mouth shut about it. Does he trade you pictures in return for your silence?

Not if I taught the child otherwise. If I just went and did something as the original poster said to some random kid who has gained my trust and I have never discussed this subject with, of course, then I would be hurting the child indirectly.

But am I the only one that thinks that her response to sex is the normal one and as we get older we get more and more fucked up? It obviously is going to fuck her head up due to the society we live in, but it seems that she is taking pleasure for what it is. When we say she doesn't understand sexual activity, she just doesn't understand the things that society has tacked on to it. While I think the age difference is a lot fucked up (and the incest thing if they were related), if kids want to play around, why can't they?

Maybe it would be better to say that she can't yet understand the motivation behind his actions. The fact that it's society that demonises this kind of behaviour is neither here nor there; because they live in this society, it will cause damage to her and it is a fucked-up thing for the guy to do. She'll see it for exactly what it is; an older guy taking advantage of a young girl because she can't understand the context of what he's doing.

Innocence is ignorance. The sooner you lose it the better. Parents go out of their way to stop children from knowing about the real world, and imposing their false morals on them. They try to make kids into these perfect dolls, so they can be what they never had in life.

The thing is though, you never lose ignorance. You just gain arrogance.

You would be intentionally causing, or at least attempting to cause harm to a child, because no matter how well you explain your concept to that child, you don't know if that child is going to be able to handle your emotions and feelings at your developmental stage in comparison to yours, are they?

And for that you would be committing a bad act.

You have to let them discover themselves.

I agree with this.. especially the part about bubba.

Besides your friend being a pervert, I guess she's already been molested at home. This doesn't mean your friend can have a go at her though. Talk to him about this and convince/force him not to do it anymore.

You have a point about the development. A 9 year old would understand it better, as opposed to a 4 year old.

As for explaining it to the child, if I were to do something like this, I would not do it in one sitting. I wouldn't simply tell it to the child. As our relationship develops, I'd teach her about sex in general (something schools do a fucking horrible job at) and allow her to see me naked regularly, so she does not view the human body as something to be feared, or to look away from. You know, gradually. Make sure she's comfortable with it.

Seconded.

You are trying to rationalise the seduction of an eight year old which can never be moral!

How can a 9 year old understand sex? They can only think they understand sex. You cannot fully experience or understand something physically your body hasn't done or your mind hasn't thought.

And that's the thing. We shelter our children. Instead of teaching them about their bodies, emotions, feelings, we teach children to hide them. Hiding things only leads to problems.

Sexual repression is never a good thing. This isn't to say I am in favor or full on penetration of a five year old girl. Obviously this will lead to physical problems, and the pain will lead to psychological problems. I'm saying that they should be introduced to sex. Touching, ect.

Let them introduce themselves.

Sexual repression is you, or anyone apart from themselves deciding when they are ready to become a sexual being.

You cannot allow yourself to decide like that for anyone, all it does is hurt society and make them think they need euphoria to be happy.

Why not be totally content before discovering sex?

See, in a society like this, we have to introduce sex. I'm not saying to do anything the child does not want, if the child is uncomfortable, then back off. If we were to live in a sexually loose society, then the child would feel free to do as they wish (sexually). I would definitely not make decisions for someone else. Anyways, if I were to have a relationship with a child, it would be based on trust, and a friendship. I wouldn't go into a relationship with a child solely based on sex and the intent of having sex.

No, we don't have to introduce it.

The person will find it all by themselves when they are ready. If they don't find it they can't be ready can they?

Wouldn't that be a better way to live, rather than having to 'learn' how to live naturally?

Child sexuality it highly underrated.

When I was a 5 and 6 years old I was very sexually aware and if given the chance, probably would have been sexually active and enjoyed it.

It kind of suck it didn't happen.

...Anyway, obviously, I don't think every sexual experience children have are negative. There's plenty of people who fondly reminisce about playing doctor. I guess it would depend on personality whether the child would feel comfortable with a certain older person.

I'm going to write a book on child sexuality one day.

The fact that she was a abused is disturbing though. She may be a little bit more fucked than the the kind of child I'm talking about. Abusive father aren't conducive to a health sense of anything.

(girls as young as 3 years old can be known to masturbate, even if they don't understand it as such)
What's there to understand???

You have a point about the development. A 9 year old would understand it better, as opposed to a 4 year old.

As for explaining it to the child, if I were to do something like this, I would not do it in one sitting. I wouldn't simply tell it to the child. As our relationship develops, I'd teach her about sex in general (something schools do a fucking horrible job at) and allow her to see me naked regularly, so she does not view the human body as something to be feared, or to look away from. You know, gradually. Make sure she's comfortable with it.

Stop planning out how you'd molest a child you sick fuck. There doesn't seem to be nearly enough WTFing taking place in this topic. A grown man is molesting an eight year-old. The OP needs to go dial 9-1-1 right now.

Am I the only one asking myself where in the hell is this girls parents? And why would they allow some older guy to sleep in their daughters bed. Also they dont find it strange that a older guy is sleeping in their 8 year olds daughter house with another random guy watching, without any adult supervision? I dont care how abusive her father or mother may be, but my god they cant be that fucking retarded. Your molester freind, Her Parents, & even you should be sentenced to the full extent of the law. This really makes me sick to my stomach , no wonder people become vigilantes.

I think some of you are underestimating the understanding of children. I have an 8 year old brother and the words he uses CORRECTLY are insane. When he was 4 he told me mother not to "mock me". Kids are smart, paired with a sex drive can lead to WANTING to experiment. It's perfectly healthy.

I don't really know what to make of the adult that would want to because I like grown men, but nonetheless I think it's possible for a relationship like that to be positive to a kid given the guy's like under 20. I was attracted to teenagers when I was a little girl. I would have done some shit if some guy would have tried! I actually once tried seducing my neighbor and then he told on me and I got in trouble. Years later, now he wants to. Go figure.

Stop planning out how you'd molest a child you sick fuck. There doesn't seem to be nearly enough WTFing taking place in this topic. A grown man is molesting an eight year-old. The OP needs to go dial 9-1-1 right now.

This is simply a discussion on sexuality. Freedom of speech protects sites such as puellula.

They don't understand the adult version of sex, but who are you to say that's better or more healthy? Adults are fucked up. We cheat, lie, and hurt people. Kids are so innocent. My perception of sex was much different when I was 15, and I TREASURE the memory of that perception. Given the right atmosphere and person, the right upbringing could help foster a healthy sense of sexuality.

Mojo that's a good point.

Would you think without being adventurous they would never discover themselves?

Would you think they would need someone else for this?

Yeah, I agree with Mojo too. I change my opinion a bit on this. If a child were allowed to develop their own interest in sex, that would be much better.

Edit: The adult can act like a guide, for the child.

I don't think a child would start sexual activity with an adult. They don't have the confidence for it. But I do think if some facets of sex can be tapped while you're young, before you've been fucked in the head with the whole gender inequality thing, and prejudice, and pre-notions of what is PURE CULTURE, you can stay in touch with your true sexual person and develop that throughout childhood into puberty and then adulthood. If you know exactly what your feelings are as a child, that would prevent a lot of fuck ups when you are emotionally capable of having a real relationship. I don't think people could or want to use another for sex, I don't think there'd be all these teens writing on totse about how their dick can't get or stay hard, how there's so much expectation, I think teen girls would have more respect for themselves and not sleep around because they can't say no.

There's three main reasons to have sex:

1) Biological - make babies
2) Chemical - it gets you high
3) Spiritual - you learn to become one

Kids don't have kids, so they shouldn't have sex for the first reason. Kids shouldn't get high, because that will fuck up their functioning. So unless you're fucking an 8 year old because you're the Messiah and you're trying to bring her to a heightened level of awareness...fuck off!

In Roman times the teach taught the kids everything from astronomy to sex. They'd watch and tell them what to do right and what they're doing wrong. Like I said, it's all about culture, if your culture says that's fucked up, when you grow up and retrospectively look at it, you're going to think it's fucked up. However, if you're like me and completely disregard social norms, you can circumvent that social brainwashing and just look at for what it is. If there's not malicious intent. If the child isn't hurt or taken advantage of or used, an experience like that doesn't have to be traumatic.

In Roman times the teach taught the kids everything from astronomy to sex. They'd watch and tell them what to do right and what they're doing wrong. Like I said, it's all about culture, if your culture says that's fucked up, when you grow up and retrospectively look at it, you're going to think it's fucked up. However, if you're like me and completely disregard social norms, you can circumvent that social brainwashing and just look at for what it is. If there's not malicious intent. If the child isn't hurt or taken advantage of or used, an experience like that doesn't have to be traumatic.

I once respected you. I dont care how articulately you state it, pedophelia is wrong. Maybe in whatever idealistic perfect world you're talking about, hypothetically it could be alright. But in this world, in this culture, it has SEVERE consequences on the child for the rest of its life.

I once respected you. I dont care how articulately you state it, pedophelia is wrong. Maybe in whatever idealistic perfect world you're talking about, hypothetically it could be alright. But in this world, in this culture, it has SEVERE consequences on the child for the rest of its life.

Please explain why. It's not wrong "because". If the last sentence of your post is the reason, that's already been disputed and proven false, depending on the situation.

In Roman times the teach taught the kids everything from astronomy to sex. They'd watch and tell them what to do right and what they're doing wrong. Like I said, it's all about culture, if your culture says that's fucked up, when you grow up and retrospectively look at it, you're going to think it's fucked up. However, if you're like me and completely disregard social norms, you can circumvent that social brainwashing and just look at for what it is. If there's not malicious intent. If the child isn't hurt or taken advantage of or used, an experience like that doesn't have to be traumatic.

Agreed.

Anything done out of love can't be wrong.

Agreed.

Anything done out of love can't be wrong.


I'm going to beat you out of love. :)

As an eight year old boy, would you have let a grown woman touch you? I know I would have.

Agreed.

Anything done out of love can't be wrong.

Yes, as a matter of fact, it can.

Yes, as a matter of fact, it can.

yes wise master. *bow*

Please explain why. It's not wrong "because". If the last sentence of your post is the reason, that's already been disputed and proven false, depending on the situation.

First of all, dont ask me to explain 'why' when you clearly already found the reason. Secondly, i'd love to see whatever bullshit studies you've sourced to base that claim off of.

First of all, dont ask me to explain 'why' when you clearly already found the reason. Secondly, i'd love to see whatever bullshit studies you've sourced to base that claim off of.

Studies? The ones who do the studies produce nothing but bullshit. They're all government funded. Watch the documentary "ecstasy rising", it'll tell you all about the bullshit they said about ecstasy, and the bullshit they continue to teach even though those studies have been found to be wrong.

The studies I base this off of is my own understanding of humanity, society, and how people react.

I once respected you. I dont care how articulately you state it, pedophelia is wrong. Maybe in whatever idealistic perfect world you're talking about, hypothetically it could be alright. But in this world, in this culture, it has SEVERE consequences on the child for the rest of its life.

This is the way I feel about this too. Regardless of how the Romans taught their kids, or of how kids would react to this kind of thing in some kind of open and honest utopia, in our society--in any society in the world--this kind of thing is nowhere near acceptable. I'm some way towards agreeing with you on these points, Mojo, sexuality at a young age is hyperstigmatised and I don't see anything wrong with kids sexually experimenting with each other or things like that. But this case is completely clear-cut; this isn't a positive thing, this guy is taking advantage of her and when she grows up, in the society she's in it's overwhelmingly likely she'll adopt its morals and be sickened by this whole thing. It's not a discussion on an idealistic scenario, it's a guy abusing a young girl.

I think you guys need an opinion from someone who was actually molested.

At age 9 i was "abused" by my female babysitter. Cant say i didnt enjoy it.

How about an grown man? With a 10" dick? Stretch out your foolish childhood tightness. Nice, eh?

Keep you from being all nasty tightassed. I bet you would have loved that too, eh?

Mature kids should be allowed to sign contracts for PS3's & small cars too. Kids are going to be generally way more aware of cars & their uses than sexuality. As everyone has experience with vehicles.

Thus? Cars for kids. They can pay out of their allowance or if they are so knowledgably sexual? Out of turning tricks.

No? If full on sex? Why not kid-hookers too?

How do you know other people haven't been molested?

How about an grown man? With a 10" dick? Stretch out your foolish childhood tightness. Nice, eh?

Keep you from being all nasty tightassed. I bet you would have loved that too, eh?

If I was a little girl, probably. Also note Jaguarstrike's sentiment.

Mature kids should be allowed to sign contracts for PS3's & small cars too. Kids are going to be generally way more aware of cars & their uses than sexuality. As everyone has experience with vehicles.

Thus? Cars for kids. They can pay out of their allowance or if they are so knowledgably sexual? Out of turning tricks.

No? If full on sex? Why not kid-hookers too?
I knowwww. Child financial independence is sooo stigmatized! :o

If I was a little girl, probably. Also note Jaguarstrike's sentiment.

What? Why you sayin' that NAMBLA style action is bad? Why is same sex worse than NAMGLA?

What? Why you sayin' that NAMBLA style action is bad? Why is same sex worse than NAMGLA?

Fine, if I was a gay little boy I'd have probably liked it too.

Hot man on boy action.

This is the way I feel about this too. Regardless of how the Romans taught their kids, or of how kids would react to this kind of thing in some kind of open and honest utopia, in our society--in any society in the world--this kind of thing is nowhere near acceptable. I'm some way towards agreeing with you on these points, Mojo, sexuality at a young age is hyperstigmatised and I don't see anything wrong with kids sexually experimenting with each other or things like that. But this case is completely clear-cut; this isn't a positive thing, this guy is taking advantage of her and when she grows up, in the society she's in it's overwhelmingly likely she'll adopt its morals and be sickened by this whole thing. It's not a discussion on an idealistic scenario, it's a guy abusing a young girl.

I don't see why it has to be in an idealistic world. Sexuality is a totally individual thing. Others are more open and not as traumatized by it. Some girls cry when they have sex, some take full command. So how a child would interpret sexual activity when they get older is a totally individual thing. And given there's no harm done and the child experiences nothing but good things, the only reason they would be fucked up by it is because how everything around them influences them to think. Unfortunately, the majority of people will let that affect them and cry about it for the rest of their life. They are their own demons. Change your perception, and what you thought was fucked an be beautiful. Don't you know why the population is increasing? It's because they're being reincarnated and not transcending to the next level. (Some cultures BELIEVE that).

I'm trying to represent the small portion of people who don't take everything at face value. Who can shake all these biases off and look at shit in your life for what it is.

I agree, this society doesn't breed the type of thinking, it does the opposite. But that doesn't mean there aren't individuals who can think above the influence. I just wanted to show a side of it. But I completely understand where you're coming from. I do draw a line when it comes to ABUSE and unfortunately that probably results more than what I was talking about.

Or who knows? We wouldn't.

I was horny as fuck when I was 8 and I'm quite sure I would have let a grown man play with me (if I liked him). But I'm not sure if that makes it okay...Probably not.

Fine, if I was a gay little boy I'd have probably liked it too.

Hot man on boy action.

What a (heck! I already posted this but it didn't show up.. :( I didn't get served! ) mature little boy you were! You'd already reviewed your sexuality & decided you were hetero. Not gay/bi or into S&M or did you decide you were a dom/sub?

I bet you wish that you could have taken out loans & got your own place & some sweet wheels? You'd really have rocked Gr.4 when you showed up in your new wheels. You could have gotten some decent weapons too? Taken care of bullies with a .25 pistol or at least a set of brass knuckles or a hunting knife.

A kid can do a lot with a decent Line of Credit & some CC's.

How about if you were ambivalent about him, but he offered you a $20? Then what if he brought some 'lines' & his friends around? Each with another $20?

I was sexually active as a child...from about 4 yrs to 8 yrs...I'll be honest, I enjoyed it. It didn't warp me, turn me into a repressed dude, or any shit like that. A lot of people told me it was wrong, yadda yadda...shit, I was a smart kid, knew about sex around the age of 4, and started asking about it because *I* wanted to explore. Nobody took advantage of me, I wanted to know what it was like, so I fucking took some initiative and found out. The only part I don't like about the whole situation is that I can't share the experience with people in any sort of detail because it would ruin several lives.

I'm with Mojo on this.

im at in between on this topic.
to some extent i think it may mess the little girl up,but at the same time i dont think anything will happen.

if the little girl is enjoying it at that age at you trying to also say that; if a 9 year old boy an 8 year old girl were playing in a pool an the boy touches the girls vagina, or sticks his finger there. she is gonna be fucked up.

???

Depends on the girls frame of mind. If she grew up in this society, then she would shy away from the boy, and feel embarrassed. If she grew up in the (sadly) fictional society we have been discussing in this thread, then she would either say for him to stop doing that (if it makes her uncomfortable) or if she likes it, she would continue and go further with the boy.

I call Troll!

For your buddy I propose the following.

Nail him to the floor or poor table, actually pool table will be better as the hollow in the middle will provide a decent space for your....treatment. Make sure you dont nail his feet though.

Make sure you nail him just below the palm, and a little above the wrist, as this will ensure that he CANNOT simply wriggle out of the nails. That done, break his bones starting with arms hands and legs, but save the face, back and neck for later. This is becuase there is a severe risk of paralysis, i..e no pain.

He will of course be suffering from severe internal bleeding at this point, so you gotta move fast, now, with his body broken, try and lift up the pool table this will mean that the gravity will force to literally hang suspended. Keep in that position, and the pressure wll slowly ensure that his lungs are crushed and he suffocates slowly.

English is not your first language is it!

It's okay if you liked it. And could be some hot fantasies to look back on when you're older. :)

How about if you were ambivalent about him, but he offered you a $20? Then what if he brought some 'lines' & his friends around? Each with another $20?

Think about how much cash you could rake in. $100 each day, from ages 9-16, twice a week. That is like $70,000 CASH.

If you stayed off the drugs, made them buy you booze each time to make it easier, you could be so set.

Oh the possibilities girls have in life. If some man offered me that, just to stroke him off, and it was a steady thing, I would have a hard time saying no. Its just, too damn easy.

Please be a troll post. Please be a troll post. Please be a troll post.

Child sexuality it highly underrated.

When I was a 5 and 6 years old I was very sexually aware and if given the chance, probably would have been sexually active and enjoyed it.

It kind of suck it didn't happen.


Agreed.

Let's just say that I had a thing with a girl that I wasn't quite old enough to escalate biologicaly.

Our society is very overprotective/overreactive when it comes to the sexuality of children. But that doesn't mean that molesting a little girl is right.

There's a degree of balance to everything.

k well if we apply my story to me

when i was abotu 9 or ten. at my baby sitters house me, her na her brother were in a little shallow pool, playing around an her she pulled her swim suit down to her knees. i i stuck my finger up...lol

are you telling me either her or i should be fucked up...
i mean in messed up..i post on totse..
but seriously

Nah, it was (im guessing) your curiosity. If you're really that concerned about the way she feels, approach her and ask her about that time, and if she feels bad about it.

I seriously doubt she will, though. But again, if you really feel bad about it, ask her.

when i was abotu 9 or ten. at my baby sitters house me, her na her brother were in a little shallow pool, playing around an her she pulled her swim suit down to her knees. i i stuck my finger up...lol

are you telling me either her or i should be fucked up...
i mean in messed up..i post on totse..
but seriously

If everyone got to poke their finger in their babysitters cunts every now and then, we would have less violence in the world, I can tell you that.

When I was littler, I would have loved someone my age to fool around with.

I think it would've fucked me up for an older person to get involved.

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Does no one else remember tibberous' other threads? "Friend", indeed... anyway, the little girl sounds like she's going to end up pretty messed up, especially if someone else is molesting her. Eventually she'll reveal all, so stop for your own (or your friend's) sake.

I'd suggest calling Child Protective Services on the whole thing.

What a (heck! I already posted this but it didn't show up.. :( I didn't get served! ) mature little boy you were! You'd already reviewed your sexuality & decided you were hetero. Not gay/bi or into S&M or did you decide you were a dom/sub?

I was into S&M when I was 8.

...

:(

i dont feel bad about or or anything.
that was years ago anyway.

im just saying. its not like shes fucked up an went on to al ife of prostitution or anything.

im also not saying its something good. but for a grown man to ouch a 8 year olf like that, why would the girl end up messed uo

Because if she tells anyone, they're going to put her through a process of psychiatric evaluations and a whole host of other shit that tells her she was violated. End result is she's going to feel violated after she's mind-washed into believing she was. She's going to pity herself for years to come. As a result, she's going to be concentrated on a swarm of thoughts related to something that can't be changed. All of this detracts from engaging in further self-discovery and causes a fermentation of her undiscovered talents.

Hopefully, if she does tell anyone, she'll remember that she reciprocated and not become a 'victim', thus avoiding being stuck in events of the past.

whatever, shit happens and then we die.

Virgins live forever.

Virgins live forever.

Then why is it always the virgin to be sacrificed in the movies??? o.O

Then why is it always the virgin to be sacrificed in the movies??? o.O

Because Hollywood is controlled by 'der Juden', who lie to keep your life expectancy short enough to maintain their Jew-claw grip on the masses.

Because if she tells anyone, they're going to put her through a process of psychiatric evaluations and a whole host of other shit that tells her she was violated. End result is she's going to feel violated after she's mind-washed into believing she was. She's going to pity herself for years to come. As a result, she's going to be concentrated on a swarm of thoughts related to something that can't be changed. All of this detracts from engaging in further self-discovery and causes a fermentation of her undiscovered talents.

Hopefully, if she does tell anyone, she'll remember that she reciprocated and not become a 'victim', thus avoiding being stuck in events of the past.

If a kid signs a contract that gives 50% of all future earnings to the one who got him to sign the contract? And did it for a pound of good choclate & 20?

I think the courts should stand behind the adult & make the kid pay up for the rest of their life. After all, 8 is old enough to understand contracts & contract law. If the kid is willing to sign away a million bucks for <$30?

Caveat Emptor!

dude uh she was violated.. 8 year olds are potentially smart but even the best of them are ignorant.

your friend took advantage of a little girl.. weak shit. its your social responsibility to tell him whats up. maybe a lot of you assholes had the magic taken out of your childhood so chew on that one. even if you think yourself ok for it you dont know any better either. kids and people in general should be protected from those that want to take advantage of them.

Dudezor! How can you say that? A lot of 8 year olds are smart enough to drive or go to college. To get mortgages & buy homes.

With shortage of drivers of big rigs? A lot of them could leave school & pull in up to $50,000/yr. I know it would inspire a lot of confidence in the driving public, if they could look over, while driving down I-5 & see a fast-reflexed kid drivng 50 tons at 60!

Better than some dirty old 40yr old with slowing reflexes! :D

Virgins live forever.

To the clean, all things are clean.

To the clean, all things are clean.

Dudezors...you much of a gourmet?

Wanna try some Iraqui V-child Battle Meat? Guaranteed metal shrapnel-free! Cost serious coin though...

Mmmmm mmmm good eatin'! It's OMGWTFBBQ-season, you know.

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Not if I taught the child otherwise. If I just went and did something as the original poster said to some random kid who has gained my trust and I have never discussed this subject with, of course, then I would be hurting the child indirectly.

False moral alert!



And keep in mind that the average totse poster is NOT a part of the norm of society. Thus said I should start praying thanks to God that you people arent running this country and dont stand a chance in hell at getting more than a city council position.

Its pretty easy to say that someone else should jump across the "sexuality gap" shouting from the other side huh>? Doesnt matter if it completely fucks them up inside either, does it? All in the name of "sexual liberation".

With that said, of all the decadence found here on totse, i think you may have just won the award for the single most disgusting piece of shit on here.

I retract that statement, it seems theres a lot more competition then I gave totse credit for.

But if you give that contract to a kid to sign and they don't have the same value system as you, then you're the one doing wrong for taking advantage of their goodness and corrupting them.

I wonder what would happen if you gave an 8 year old sugar coated meth tabs wrapped in a sweeties wrapper.

You would be intentionally showing them something they are unaware of and therefore not ready for.

Okay... first of all, props to your friend for getting a piece that hasn't gone all disgustingnappyfishstank.

That said, though...

He slept in the same room as her and started hugging on her, feeling her up, ect. Basically it got to the point he stuck his hand down her pants and rubbed her vagina a couple times.

She didn't even really acknowledge it, didn't say anything about it or fight it.

That's a bit fucked up. I'm not going to spin you some line of bullshit about how "zomg its so evil because she doesn't have a brain or personality" or anything, 'cause it's bullshit, but there's a huge gap between "didn't fight it" and "wanted to get it on.

In a lot of cases, that gap happens to be... rape. Not "statuatory rape," but the flat-out-rape kind, unfortunately.

I suggest you have a discussion with your friend about the importance of mutuality.

Still, my friend is wondering what is going through her head, and wether she knows what is going on. Does it seem weird she would just let him do it?

...and it scares - nay, disgusts - me even more that your friend is wondering "whether she knows what is going on."

How the FUCK could you NOT notice "oh, gee, the guy I happen to be with just HAPPENS to be masturbating me at the moment??" 'n don't give me that shit about "maybe she is totally naieve and innocent and doesn't know what it was," I was there on the fucking playground, back in the day, and most of our conversations would have very much been kicked off prime time television. She damn well noticed, and she probably knows a whole damn lot more about masturbating herself than her friend did.

As for "wondering what's going through her head" - quite frankly, if you do not know what your partner is thinking regarding having sexual relations with you, you should not be having sexual relations with that partner. Seriously. Communication is, like, really fucking important in this shit. With any partner.

I'm all for kiddiefiddling. Old enough to pee, old enough for me, 'n all - but ironic as it is, you should really tell your "friend" that he needs to grow the fuck up before getting jiggy with the third graders.

Seriously.

Beautifull. I agree totally.

This is so amazingly fucked up...

Anyone bringing up child sexuality needs to go and insert themselves into a blender feet first, that's a bunch of irrelevant crud. Sure, children have sexual experiences when young, I know I did, and it wasn't all fun and games and magic nurses like some of you fantasists make out, and I regard myself as a pretty "secure" minded guy who can accept shit... and yet I still can't just sit back and think "oh well I was just sexually active young". It's never as simple as that, and those memories will always come back, sure I felt that kind of stuff benefited me too, but I certainly feel weird thinking about certain topics...

Not to mention the main fact... as is put fairly eloquently by a few of you; this is an 8 year old getting abused by an adult (or at least an older teenager). 20 year old men do not have emotional relationships with 8 year olds, if they are inserting their digits into pre-pubescent pussy, there is something kinda wrong somewhere... I cannot believe the OP stands by and does a bit of a "lolwtf" whilst this stuff is happening, jesus christ for all you know this girl may be fucking traumatised and fucked up beyond all belief from her experiences, and it doesn't sound like anything your friend has done/is doing is going to make it better.

Take your head out of your arse and stop this, imo it's your goddam duty as a moral human, this kids parents need telling and if they're not going to be doing anything, well it's authorities you should be looking at (for your pal too, really...) as they're clearly majorly suck arse parents...

This is perhaps one of the most disturbing and strange things i've ever read on totse, and it really doesn't feel good having people twaddle on about how "this is meaningless" and she'll be able to fantasise about it later in life. Jeeeez, just think of the most fucked up people in society and how many of them have very fucked up childhood sexual experiences. Children DO NOT understand sexuality fully, they can be sexual (and they want to) but that's a long shot from an emotional "coming to terms" with this stuff.

Pffft, I can't really express myself right on this one, but seriously, this has to stop....

Yes You Can.

Both individuals involved are "messed up in the head". Problem with the girl = Too many possibilities and not enough info. which I deem as severe jail bait disorder.

Problem with the friend = Chomo requiring castration