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Old 2007-04-27, 00:25
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Default Melatonin > l-tryptophan

okay, so melatonin is a sleep-aid, and powerful mood enhancer. Also gives you vivid dreams.

L-tryptophan is also a sleep-aid and mood enhancer. But does not give vivid dreams.

Only difference is, melatonin is dirt-cheap, <5$ for 360mg (0.3mg's being the daily dose), and l-tryptophan is expensive as fuck. 15$ for 3000 (300mg's being the daily amount to take) mg's.

So in conclusion, you shouldn't waste your money on l-tryptophan, but instead buy melatonin for your depressions, E-comedowns, or whatever.
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Old 2007-04-27, 00:26
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Default Re: Melatonin > l-tryptophan

I like both.

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Old 2007-04-27, 00:39
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Melatonin is nice. I love the dreams I get. Ive tried doses 3-15mg and got better results from 3mg than 15mg. Has anyone else experienced this?

Although I liked melatonin at first, I discontinued its use becuase after a while it made me feel groggy and tired in the morning.
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Old 2007-04-27, 00:43
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I take 3mg melatonin every night. At first, it was great, but now it makes me groggy in the mornings, and I can't sleep without it (my pineal gland doesn't produce any naturally)
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Old 2007-04-27, 00:47
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Default Re: Melatonin > l-tryptophan

3mg melatonins aren't something you should take everyday. I take it once and get vivid dreams for over a month.
Just stop taking it and dont expose yourself to too much light, and you should get your pineal gland back in shape.
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Old 2007-04-27, 00:48
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Default Re: Melatonin > l-tryptophan

as soon as i get some xanax (soon) I'll switch over to that, and hopefully regain my hormone balance(s)
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Old 2007-04-27, 02:07
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Default Re: Melatonin > l-tryptophan

In the parlance.... "ZOMGn00bSTFUpwnyrself!"

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okay, so melatonin is a sleep-aid,
Yes.

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and powerful mood enhancer.
WTF?

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Also gives you vivid dreams.
Yes.

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L-tryptophan is also a sleep-aid
Yes. Except when it's a stimulant. Depends on how your body metabolizes it at that moment. But yes.

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and mood enhancer.
Yes.

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But does not give vivid dreams.
BUUULLLLLLLshit.

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Only difference is, melatonin is dirt-cheap, <5$ for 360mg (0.3mg's being the daily dose),
You get decent prices.

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and l-tryptophan is expensive as fuck. 15$ for 3000 (300mg's being the daily amount to take) mg's.
1) I get it for <$5/oz.

2) If you're in the US, you can't *get* the shit without extracting it yourself, and have to rely on the more-expensive and more-limited-purpouse 5HTP.

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So in conclusion,
Oh, this should be good...

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you shouldn't waste your money on l-tryptophan,
...which is cheaper, and IMO more useful...

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but instead buy melatonin
For what purpouse, again?

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for your depressions, E-comedowns, or whatever.
MMMMMmmmkay, buddy. I'll give you the "or whatever" - now find me the enzyme in the body which rips the methyl group OFF the 5-hydroxyl group before deacetylating to serotonin.

Can you?

Riiiight... so "depression" and "e-comedowns" are the two things it WON'T do.

Unlike l-tryp. Which also makes serotonin in addition to melatonin.
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Old 2007-04-27, 02:33
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I trumped out 60mgs of melatonin last weekend. Will probably bump to 80mgs this weekend. So far so good.

Anyone know of melatonin od/ side effects?
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Old 2007-04-27, 03:42
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how do you get melatonin? sorry if that's a stupid question.
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Old 2007-04-27, 03:43
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Buy it at CVS, Walgreens, GNC, its in the vitamin aisle, cheap as shit. I get 120 count bottles real cheap-like.
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