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| Network Security and Hacking Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such iscompletely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Ammendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cellphone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cellphone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly ok. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net. |
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# 1

2007-04-19, 03:24
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One more question on brute hacking
I recently asked a question on a 17 diget password with random letters and symbols and numbers...It turns out however that what I really need to crack is easy as hell.
It is a 5 digets. All numbers. Easy enough? But my question is would it be easier to do it physicly on a computer in the network where it is probably faster but more likely I will get caught, or to do it from my computer online?
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# 2

2007-04-19, 04:19
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Australia
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Re: One more question on brute hacking
That's still 100,000 possible combinations
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# 3

2007-04-19, 08:25
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randomstatename
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Re: One more question on brute hacking
5 digits, so 99999 different combinations? If you want to sit at the computer and input them yourself then be my guest. Lets assume it takes you 2 seconds to key in a password and hit enter. 4 seconds for it to scan the username/password and verify whether it is correct/incorrect.
You will be sitting at the computer for about 200 hours. Did you put any thought into this?
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2007-04-19, 10:57
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Re: One more question on brute hacking
I don't think he did...
Remembering if you did it online, you COULD get court, by the IP address you have, and that would take you to your home.
But that would depend on whats the password for and how important is what your tring to get at to someone else.
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# 5

2007-04-19, 23:36
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Re: One more question on brute hacking
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Originally Posted by wargsm
5 digits, so 99999 different combinations? If you want to sit at the computer and input them yourself then be my guest. Lets assume it takes you 2 seconds to key in a password and hit enter. 4 seconds for it to scan the username/password and verify whether it is correct/incorrect.
You will be sitting at the computer for about 200 hours. Did you put any thought into this?
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WTF are you talking about? This isn't 1952 anymore. Any regular 2.5 GHz computer can search 6 million password combos per second. To crack a 5-digit password with a 10-character length will take 0.02 seconds.
There is a world beyond a moron who only knows how to point and click, yes Brute-forcers are programs written that automatically bruteforce passwords. Ever put some thought into that?
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# 6

2007-04-20, 01:29
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Re: One more question on brute hacking
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Originally Posted by Dr.Speed17
WTF are you talking about? This isn't 1952 anymore. Any regular 2.5 GHz computer can search 6 million password combos per second. To crack a 5-digit password with a 10-character length will take 0.02 seconds.
There is a world beyond a moron who only knows how to point and click, yes Brute-forcers are programs written that automatically bruteforce passwords. Ever put some thought into that?
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If there's a network connection in the cracking process (that is, you're not cracking a hash you have locally, you're cracking a login interface or what not), you're going to have to factor in network response times. If it's over the Internet, expect a hell of a lot longer than .02 seconds. Hell, each freakin' attempt will likely take over 1 second.
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# 7

2007-04-20, 02:16
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Re: One more question on brute hacking
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Originally Posted by cense
Hell, each freakin' attempt will likely take over 1 second.
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Yes. I've also heard that some login systems purposely add a time delay just for these events to slow it down.
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# 8

2007-04-20, 10:13
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Re: One more question on brute hacking
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Originally Posted by cense
If there's a network connection in the cracking process (that is, you're not cracking a hash you have locally, you're cracking a login interface or what not), you're going to have to factor in network response times. If it's over the Internet, expect a hell of a lot longer than .02 seconds. Hell, each freakin' attempt will likely take over 1 second.
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Oh, you've got me now, cense, you've got me now. Hint the "host" computer to be the one with the brute strength, it just needs someone to give it a push, no?
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# 9

2007-04-20, 14:03
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Australia
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Re: One more question on brute hacking
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Originally Posted by Dr.Speed17
WTF are you talking about? This isn't 1952 anymore. Any regular 2.5 GHz computer can search 6 million password combos per second. To crack a 5-digit password with a 10-character length will take 0.02 seconds.
There is a world beyond a moron who only knows how to point and click, yes Brute-forcers are programs written that automatically bruteforce passwords. Ever put some thought into that?
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Moron, he clearly implied if a human was going to sit at a computer and manually try each combination.
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# 10

2007-04-26, 03:55
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Re: One more question on brute hacking
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This thread continued for 2 pages in the real archive, 15 posts total - only page 1 survived here.
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