I have been unable to find a good source for chemicals, even basic ones like HCl. I've been using The Works Toilet Bowl Cleaner for anything that requires it, and I'm pretty sure it's got things in it that will screw with my results (dye, rust inhibitor, ect). Does anyone know how I could find out what those other chemicals are, or how I could get the HCl out of the cleaner and bubble it into some clean water?

theres no swimming pools or cement where swiy are at?

I don't know where you're from but in some countries locating chems can be quite hard initially. However, like Gigster said Swimming Pool Suppliers ill sell something to regulate the Ph of pools or one could look for 20% HCl acid in the form of Brick Acid - used to remove mortar splashes from brickwork and available from most DIY stores.

Congratulations. Table salt is your new best friend.

I've looked in the yellow pages for pool suppliers and at my local hardware store for brick and driveway cleaner, but I can't find any, so I'm using toilet bowl cleaner as a last resort. Another Idea I had was to use basic chems to produce chlorine and hydrogen gas in equal molar amounts, and bubble them through water, though I imagine this would be inefficient/dangerous, and I don't even know if it would work.

~sigh~ Why do I even bother?

Okay. First of all, you don't need the hydrogen. Chlorine gas bubbled through water will evolve oxygen and hydrochloric acid in the presence of sunlight...

WTF is the chemical formula of table salt, again?

Take a buttload of table salt. Cover it in white vinegar. Bring to a boil.

...take a big horkin' whiff. Tell me what it smells like.

Yes. It just so happens that HCl gas has a much, much lower boiling point than, oh, say, acetic acid. By far. Distill that shit through some table salt, and you should have decently pure anhydrous HCl gas.

Or, if you felt like electrolyzing table salt, you'd have a jar of sodium hydroxide solution and a jar of HCl solution.

The answer to "how do I get some acid" is always :

1. Find salt.

2. Liberate acid.

3. Cleanup.

...or electrolysis... but for fuck's sake, do things the traditional way before you detonate an H2 bomb in the middle of a solution of hydrochloric acid, k? Splatter's a bitch.

I'm guessing u r in the UK. Your local DIY should almost definately stock 'Brick Acid' - ask them for it - if they ask, which they won't (as it is a commonly used item) your brother asked you to pick it up to clean up some 'excess' mortar on the brickwork or something or you have some extreme deposits of limescale in a toilet. Search for brick acid and u will have as many uses as you need. A lot of those toilet chems have detergents and other shit in (non-ionic surfactants etc). They may also stock something called, 'Spirits of Salts' which is approx 34-36% HCl acid which is around the usual highest strength one will find HCl (Aqueous) in. At this concentration (34%) it is fuming when you remove the lid.

I have found both of these items in very small DIY stores - in small towns, even. Brick acid, particularly, is extremely widely available.

Thanks for the HCl synth. So if I understand correctly, sodium chloride with acetic acid would produce sodium acetate and Hydrochloric acid. Would the acid created come out as a gas, or remain desolved in the solution, or would that depend on the concentration of the acetic acid?

come on they gotta have a pool supply store & hot tubs they got muratic acid. And the same for cleaning cement like driveways inside garages. Or is everthing dirt where your at? or is it your affraid the store emplooyees are going to ask you what its for? or is the store to far to go on a bicycle., or because you only get 50 cents a week allowance?

HCl acid is one of the most basic of chems you can get and more widely available than acetic acid (unless swiy is talking about vinegar).