**Question at the bottom**

It was leaving time at the bar, this town is a traditional rural setting where anything out of its set 'ordinary' is either stupid, wrong, disgusting, etc, etc.

The general community isn't very accepting to much besides booze drinking, fist fighting, football watching crap.

Anyhow we go outside and I'm just being myself talking with anyone I know and looking around for the hottest girl, when hear a familiar voice mouting off to someone, so I turn to see what he is doing and he is face to face with this guy. "Oh great he's getting himself into another fight" anyhow the owner had this 'forplay to fisticuffs' broken up and they went their seperate ways.

Later on I'm with my friend who was involved and what happened was the guy grabbed his dick and he reacted by wanting to punch his head in...when the guy returns and my other friend gets in his face because he was rubbed up against by him on the dancefloor.

No fight occured after all this so I started being the smartass I am "well this whole situation was as gay as those guys" and then the guys bf came and told me to 'shut up you skater asshole' to which I said "I hope you don't like skater asshole"

All of a sudden I'm locked onto by these two gay guys (solid tough looking bastards though" Fortunately a whole 'crew' had formed behind me to jump in as necessary and the gays left.

**Long and Short of it all**

So a few things happened

1. I got called a homophobe by a few dipshits
2. I had about 500 people tell me the whole "I don't care what they do behind closed doors but we don't need to hear about it and they don't have to act so gay (the put on flamboyncey sp)
3. Learnt there is like 7 gay men in this town and at least two lesbians so they are gaining numbers.

So what are your thoughts? A dickhead acting like a dickhead deserves to be brought up for it? That it SHOULD be the way that anything that shold you not like them that it's as simple as being because they slant that way?

I don't care about a persons sexuality, and if I got groped I would have told him to fuck off pretty fucking quickly but no straight resort to violence unless he took my advice the wrong way.

Sorry this post is all over the place - I'm hung over and just awoken.

I don't understand.

That it SHOULD be the way that anything that shold you not like them that it's as simple as being because they slant that way?


.....What??

.....What??

Umm I dunno haha


What I meant was If I dislike a person for whatever reason, it's because of that reason...not because they are gay. But just like with the blacks anything you do against them seems to be a hate crime.

Umm I dunno haha


What I meant was If I dislike a person for whatever reason, it's because of that reason...not because they are gay. But just like with the blacks anything you do against them seems to be a hate crime.

Oh I knew what you meant, it's just that I'd resolved that issue within myself when I was 14.

Oh I knew what you meant, it's just that I'd resolved that issue within myself when I was 14.

Don't act like a dickhead. I know who I am and why I do things the way I do. It's how others see and take things. These people will bring their sexuality into any scenerio that they can.

I can't exactly say "I got bashed cause I like girls" now can i?

3. Learnt there is like 7 gay men in this town and at least two lesbians so they are gaining numbers.


if there is a total of 9 gay people in your town your not doing too bad.

if there is a total of 9 gay people in your town your not doing too bad.

Town of about 10,000 i think...and there could be more, its not as if I go out looking for them.

But yeah alright I suppose except we have teh violent gayz here haha

As far as I can tell from your post, you're the one that brought their sexuality into the issue when you made that crack about skater asshole.

I know what you fucking mean by the way, it's just that people tend to slip up and call someone a fag; even though they might only be insulting that person because he's and asshole and legitimately deserved it.

But mostly I hear people like you whinging against that double standard all the time. Tell me what you're going to do about it? Nothing.

Life is full of contradictions. You'll find you are . So just learn to deal with it and move on.

haha their homosexuality WAS the whole issue. I made the comment to get the rise out of them I knew I would get, and I knew I need not worry because, like everyone else here, they were all talk.

OMG I'm a skater so I must be an asshole...he brought me into the equation methinks. HATECRIME!

What can I do about it?!? I mean the only option would be to turn gay so I could bash them and not have that issue be brought into it, or make everyone else gay so I'm the minority.

It's fucking stupid I know.

Dude, if some fag grabbed my dick I'd punch him in the fucking thorat! Self defence against sexual assault dag nabbit.

I am Aussie too, the gays down here arent violent, not the ones I know anyway, but they are very steriotypical.

I am a skater too by the way, what is the skating like in canberra? We have like, 6 concrete parks in southern tassie.

Back on topic though, if someone is being a fuck whit, then they are a fuck whit. They are not a gay/black/asian/mexican/abo fuck whit, we are all people, and most of us have the capability to be fuck whits, and fuck whits should be stomped for it.

Sorry for saying fuck whit so much, but yeah.

[QUOTE=Forgotten;8145133]I know what you fucking mean by the way, it's just that people tend to slip up and call someone a fag; even though they might only be insulting that person because he's and asshole and legitimately deserved it.QUOTE]

That's not slipping up, that's offending someone.

Which is the point.

When you're mad at someone you're going to attack them anyway possible.

For example, fat girl at work. I call her fat girl. Do I hate her because she's fat? No, I hate her because she's annoying but "fat" is much more offensive.

^^ So you ARE a homophobe. Or are you jsut "not scared of teh fagz i jsut h8 t3hm".

I mean really, grow the fuck up. Maybe if your friend wasn't acting so femme out there, that gay guy wouldn't have hit on him.


And why SHOULDN'T they act gay? It's the way they are, you fucking praetorian. Why should you be so flamboyant about liking girls? You're just trying to force your way of small-town ignorant assfuck life on everyone else who happens to have different mindsets than you. I hope the next time you try to give some gay guy shit he buttseck's you and than takes a giant dump on your chest. Flamboyantly.

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Awwww austi... they are gonna come through your window late at night and get you back..

you better plug your butt :(

So what are your thoughts? A dickhead acting like a dickhead deserves to be brought up for it? That it SHOULD be the way that anything that shold you not like them that it's as simple as being because they slant that way?

I tend to agree...

No fight occured after all this so I started being the smartass I am "well this whole situation was as gay as those guys" and then the guys...

...which is why this is the point in the story in which you should've gotten your ass beat.

Blokes + alcohol + gays + small town + bogan aussies = meat head males + fighting.

Are you gay? You seem preety in to this...

Blokes + alcohol + gays + small town + bogan aussies = meat head males + fighting.

Sheep fucker

- ♫.i.b.y.v.n.t.h.♫

Tassie Guy...Skating here is okay. There's one giant skate park just out of the city a bit. It's huge.

Prometheum - Where you addressing me?? There's people I just don't like that aren't that way. Saying the situation was as gay as they are...well the situation was pretty fucking stupid but I thought gays were supposed to be proud of what they are Why didn't they take it as a compliment?

Kate - I started no fight, the bogan gays wanted to fight me. I'm not a violent person but if anyone wants to fight me for no reason yeah they can take the beating they asked for.

The friends brother knew he'd get bashed and was trying to get me onside in case it was going to happen...my response "fuck off, if he's really getting beaten down I'll pull that dude off but that's it"

I'm sooooooo into girls

I think it comes down to they were hetrophobes :(

Oh and something else, I'm the laid back guy, I'm simple and get along with most people of all sorts of backgrounds. I accept people the same way as I'd want to be accepted if I were in their situation.

But then I'm pretty damn sure if I were gay I wouldn't be rubbing it in everyones face who don't give a shit and groping obvious straight guys outside a pub at closing standing with their gf...If I touched the girl the bf would retaliate, if another girl touched tohe dude the gf would probably have a go at her...why should it be any different for these people. Exactly.

What kind of fucked up town do you live in if it only has two lesbians?

I dont like it when gays/lesbians/blacks/whatever get all randomly aggressive with people "YOU LOOKED AT ME WRONG!! IT'S BECAUSE I'M GAY/BLACK/WHATEVER,ISNT IT??! YOU FUCKING HOMPOPHOBE/RACIST/WHATEVER!!!"


It's like the guy got offended just because when he groped someone it wasnt reciprocated. Which is ridiculous.

Regardless of sexuality or sex, if you dont like someone groping you you have a right to push them away.



This thread made me not like gay people for a while.

Thats rough, gays are all over my high school mkaes me wanna drop out

This thread made me not like gay people for a while.
Why, because if one gay guy gets the wrong message from someone they could potentially shag that night, they must just all be rapists.

In clearing up, my earlier message was directed at a reply from OP, but I took a while posting it and it got misdirected. I apologise to the person who I incidentaly flamed for this.


Prometheum - Where you addressing me?? There's people I just don't like that aren't that way. Saying the situation was as gay as they are...well the situation was pretty fucking stupid but I thought gays were supposed to be proud of what they are Why didn't they take it as a compliment?

Kate - I started no fight, the bogan gays wanted to fight me. I'm not a violent person but if anyone wants to fight me for no reason yeah they can take the beating they asked for.


Hm... you started no fight.

No fight occured after all this so I started being the smartass I am "well this whole situation was as gay as those guys" and then the guys


And your comment to me makes no sense. You were obviously using gay as a derogatory term. I'm sure you're hateful about other people, people with the blindness to have demographic-based vendettas usually do.

I'm not gay. I don't have any stake in this. I just get pissed off when some fucking guardian of all that is holy decides they NEED to kick some ass because they got hit on. Stop acting femme and gay guys will stop trying to buttsecks you.

Christ, its so fucking obvious you're intolerant. Look at this threads fucking title. I really hope that you look at some dude someday and get one hell of a hard-on for him and shoot yourself out of despair for your "sinful" thoughts. Praetorian.

gay people are some of the nicest people i've met

get over yourself, and stop being so narrow minded

In saying this, you're as bad as the run-of-the-mill racist. You aren't necessarily insulting a group of people, but you are making generalizations, which is what most racists do in this day and age. Unfortunately, people like you piss me off, no offense, but they just do, for some reason.

Probably because I conducted a little "social experiment" one day. I borrow a neighbors skateboard, got the most torn up jeans I could find, and wore a black shirt, combing my hair over my face. I went down to the local grocery store, the security guard kicked me out, because he "thought I looked shady" Three days later, I went down there with a oxford shirt, combed and slicked back hair, and khaki pants. The same guard went out of his way to greet me, just because I looked nice. My point being, he judged me based on my appearance, and I hate people like that.

You're stereotyping, like it or not. It's like me saying I want to kill everyone who wears brown shoes, but people who wear black shoes are meant to be worshiped. Except instead of shoes, you're talking about sexual preferences.

Did that make any sense at all? :p

I'm not gay. I don't have any stake in this.

You're not gay but your bf is right? haha you're wrong about it all.

You're supporting a couple of dickheads that happen to be gay...so, dickheads as I see it. Stupidity I don't tolerate...and that's something else...if you call me 'intolerant' I see you as being tolerant...you only TOLERATE these people. That's racist/sexist/whatever worse then anything else. It's saying "I don't like these people but I can stand them to a degree"

Fuck off dipshit.

Yeah and its funny when people say "gays wouldn't do that" then say whoever spoke ill of them have inhumanely categorized them uhhh dickhead you just categorized them as being some super of super beings that should be seen as flawless in the eyes of others cause they are gay.

Way to go over the top with your stupidity guys.

Wait, some asshole grabbed your friend's dick? I would have called the cops, that's sexual harassment.


This thread made me not like gay people for a while.

Er, why? That would be like hating all heterosexual males because of the assholes who rape woman.

Christ, its so fucking obvious you're intolerant. Look at this threads fucking title. I really hope that you look at some dude someday and get one hell of a hard-on for him and shoot yourself out of despair for your "sinful" thoughts. Praetorian.

What the fuck, he nearly got in a fight with gays, THAT HAPPENED WHAT IS HE GOING TO MAKE THE TITLE!? "I nearly had a fight with 2 men who are sexually attracted to other men."

And the dude grabbed the mans dick, that's sexual harrasment, if I walk up to a woman and I grab both her tits I'd probably get the shit kicked out of me by her friends and that would be justified by most people, but oh no, my sexual orientation is different so I don't have to act like civilized human being, bullshit.

It isn't about them being gay, they were just complete fucking assholes. This is about people justifying their moronic behavior with bullshit. I don't care if you're black or white or straight or gay, just act like a civilized human.

I'm pretty much the gayest gay that ever gayed but... they deserved to get their asses kicked if they're going around grabbing random guys dicks. As far as I know most straight guys aren't too appreciative of it. I know i'd be pissed if someone, even another fag, came up and started groping me. You should've jumped in and kicked their asses.

If this isn't just someone making this up, I will laugh in the faces of everyone who thought this whole situation was my fault. That the straight mans actions were over the top and that gay men have some sort of pass allowing them to act like they did in this instance. This one persons few words has more backbone to it to all you dumbasses thinking you're all 'tolerant' and shit and posting what you'd think they'd want you to say.

Way to go man.

If a guy comes onto a girl unwantedly, there usually is (or should be) a backlash.

Just because he's gay and we're all (supposed) to be super p.c. and understanding, doesn't mean that he should be allowed to get away with being a dick like that.

I have no real problem with gay people doing the whole grabbing dick things in a gaybar, but it just does not feel right whenever a gay guy grabs your crotch without you asking, or even knowing the guy. Especially when you're trying to chat up a girl too.

Fza and Trousersnake:

TS first:

You're not gay but your bf is right? haha you're wrong about it all.

OMG u call3d m3 teh g4y!!!!!!!1111oneoneone111!!!! l3tz fyt.

Obviously, they were in the wrong. I agree with that. But you blatantly incited a fight though gaybashing. And then you tried to blame it on their sexuality? And now you're trying to say

"OMg u r t3h int0l4rnt -0f t3h str8 d00dz!!11"

to just wipe off the fact that YOU INCITED VIOLENCE TO APPEASE YOUR OWN INTOLERANCE.

Fza:

It isn't about them being gay, they were just complete fucking assholes. This is about people justifying their moronic behavior with bullshit. I don't care if you're black or white or straight or gay, just act like a civilized human.

I would say that the person who incited a fight with the intent of bashing some gays is more of an asshole than someone who misread some signals. Girls get sexually harassed all the time, and those times don't turn into fucking rumbles.

Fza and Trousersnake:

TS first:

OMG u call3d m3 teh g4y!!!!!!!1111oneoneone111!!!! l3tz fyt.

Obviously, they were in the wrong. I agree with that. But you blatantly incited a fight though gaybashing. And then you tried to blame it on their sexuality? And now you're trying to say

to just wipe off the fact that YOU INCITED VIOLENCE TO APPEASE YOUR OWN INTOLERANCE.


Have you read anything? Did it sink in? I don't think so

You can't take a blantant joke.

I started a fight because they heard me say the situation was as gay as they were? ...Just replace the words gay with stupid for a minute and picture the scenerio "This situation is as stupid as those guys are" it was a stupid situation and they were the cause of it. They know it too, they were just itching for a fight.

And again you say 'intolerance'...so you can only tolerate these people? What's wrong with greating along with them like anyone else...I don't 'tolerate' my friends, I genuinely like them. Seems to me you're the homophobe here, probably a closet homosexual too scared to face his destiny ;)

This thread is as gay as those guys.

I don't see anything wrong with what you said. God, if they can't accept a minor quip made about something wrong that they did, then they're in the wrong.

Girls get sexually harassed all the time, and those times don't turn into fucking rumbles.

Are you an idiot or what? You're basically advocating sexual harassment here. How many girls do you know could actually take on a guy if he was sexually harassing her? Unless she was extremely muscular, played footy or was one of those feminist lesbians?!

The guy grabbed him without reason, or did you not read that part? You don't see women hitting back because, most of the time they CAN'T. Don't argue this unless you know what you're arguing.

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Doesn't sound like you did that much wrong to me, just standing up for your buddy.

I know a lot of lads who would do a lot worse than that if some dude grabbed their cock.

I mean seriously, why? Why grab another mans cock?

Sheep fucker♫

You're just angry because kangaroos put up more of a struggle.

What the fuck, he nearly got in a fight with gays, THAT HAPPENED WHAT IS HE GOING TO MAKE THE TITLE!? "I nearly had a fight with 2 men who are sexually attracted to other men."

And the dude grabbed the mans dick, that's sexual harrasment, if I walk up to a woman and I grab both her tits I'd probably get the shit kicked out of me by her friends and that would be justified by most people, but oh no, my sexual orientation is different so I don't have to act like civilized human being, bullshit.

It isn't about them being gay, they were just complete fucking assholes. This is about people justifying their moronic behavior with bullshit. I don't care if you're black or white or straight or gay, just act like a civilized human.

QFMFT!!!!

FZA.....you nailed it completely in this post....GREAT WORK!

I can't believe how nonsensical some of the responses on this thread are. Here we go again......gays claiming they are "normal", yet want a different set of standards than everyone else. How anyone can endorse crotch grabbing as something that doesn't deserve an immediate beat down is beyond me.

Oh and folks.....there is no such thing as "homophobia". Its just a made up word by the gay community to try and legitimatize their nonsense and give them a pseudo sense of entitlement. There is no FEAR attached to any of this crap. If I don't approve of faggotry (there I just made up my own word, fuck it...if they can, why can't I?) or want to be around such individuals it has NOTHING to do with fearing them. Its just like if I was walking along a sidewalk and suddenly encountered a pile of vomit in my path. If I sidestep the puke instead of walking into it.....is it out of "fear"? Hardly! Its because I don't feel like treading into a mess and ruining what was otherwise a nice day. But "fear" is the absolute LAST of any emotion involved in my reaction to that pile of puke.

You take ANY OTHER word and attach "phobia" to it, and the definition means...."fear of". Yet here we go again, another set of rules for the gay community. Whether its making up silly words or grabbing crotches without the expectation of negative repercussions......its just further proof gays don't want to be "normal" (or treated normally) in the least. Go ahead and prance around like little fairies making up your own set of rules all the while thinking you'll ever get respect or acceptance from the majority of the populace. All you are doing is just adding to all the reasons why all this faggotry should have stayed in the closet....WHERE YOU BELONG.

Now go ahead and flame away and start spewing nonsense about how "hateful" I am, all because I expect EVERY citizen to act accordingly and not use whatever deviance you have as your "excuse" to act like a complete malcontent.

Oh and folks.....there is no such thing as "homophobia".

Let's not randomly add words together and hope that they form a sentence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/sexual_prejudice.html

http://www.bidstrup.com/phobia.htm

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Let's not randomly add words together and hope that they form a sentence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/sexual_prejudice.html

http://www.bidstrup.com/phobia.htm

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Funny, you try and critique my grammar, when clearly you have reading comprehension issues. I am NOT disputing whether the WORD "homophobia" exists, instead if it is a real "phobia". You want to do some nonsensical research to try and refute my claims....then here goes. Find me ANOTHER word with "phobia" as a suffix, that does NOT imply fear. Better yet, find me a REAL LIVE news event where someone did something bad to a gay person......because it was OUT OF FEAR. Or now are we going to argue semantics and have an epic argument about the definition of "fear"???

Cue the fuckin crickets......

Funny, you try and critique my grammar, when clearly you have reading comprehension issues.

What the FUCK does that have to do with grammar? It simply states that your 'statement' was full of shit. You meant the etymology of it.


I am NOT disputing whether the WORD "homophobia" exists


there is no such thing as "homophobia". Its just a made up word

You said it yourself. Funny, you can't even get your own facts right, so don't even think you can dispute mine.



You want to do some nonsensical research to try and refute my claims....then here goes. Find me ANOTHER word with "phobia" as a suffix, that does NOT imply fear.



The word "phobia" literally means fear. If that's your way of trying to 'own' me then you fail, horribly.

Phobia;

A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.
Better yet, find me a REAL LIVE news event where someone did something bad to a gay person......because it was OUT OF FEAR. Or now are we going to argue semantics and have an epic argument about the definition of "fear"???

Cue the fuckin crickets......

I could search youtube for anything against gays with 'homophobia' and it would come up with that, because PHOBIA means FEAR.

Try to keep up.

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ROFLMFAO!

First off Azalie....please don't tell me what "I meant". You have no idea how my thought process works, so spare me your arrogance.

Congratulations!!!! You've posted a whole litany of examples of how if you did a search on the WORD homophobia, there are whole mess of things that will pop up on a general inquirty. But you STILL have not given even the remotest shred of evidence where "fear" comes into any aspect of whatever happens to gays in a negative sense. Especially in the double standard world where they think they can grab people's crotches and get away with it....and then if they are called out on it, it is suddenly a "hate crime".

So since you completely tap-danced around my rebuttal (with such fluid dance moves, are YOU gay?????) is it safe to say you can't find even ONE other word with "phobia" attached to it where it does NOT have some connotation in regard to "fear"?????

If a dude started grabbing my girlfriend at a club, I'd probably get in his face too.

Are you sure your homophobia isn't a direct result of latent homosexual feelings you have towards your friend?

You're a kidiot who can't read.

I didn't advocate that what the guy did was right, I simply stated that what you said was incorrect. Have you not ever picked up a psychology book? Anger is the easiest reaction to exhibit out of all emotions (that includes fear if you hadn't picked up the hint). I'd do research and prove you the douche you are but you haven't earn't that since everything you've said up until this point hasn't been backed up by anything. And before you say "OMG! Liek j00 ghey!!!" because you can't come up with anything better, let me just ask you this.

Why would be called "Homophobia" if it didn't refer to the 'fear' or 'homosexuals'? Are Trousersnake and his friends homophobic? Probably not. But what you were trying to 'state' was that 'homophobia' was really a
'prejudice' rather than a 'fear', and I'm about 97% sure that's what you were trying to say, well it's both. But you couldn't say that because you're just another kidiot who's thinks he's 'too good' to think before he speaks.

This argument is over anyway, you're obviously too mentally retarded to have a decent, intelligent argument without resorting to "are YOU gay?????" or actually backing up your statements.

/thread.

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You're a kidiot who can't read.

I didn't advocate that what the guy did was right, I simply stated that what you said was incorrect. Have you not ever picked up a psychology book? Anger is the easiest reaction to exhibit out of all emotions (that includes fear if you hadn't picked up the hint). I'd do research and prove you the douche you are but you haven't earn't that since everything you've said up until this point hasn't been backed up by anything. And before you say "OMG! Liek j00 ghey!!!" because you can't come up with anything better, let me just ask you this.

Why would be called "Homophobia" if it didn't refer to the 'fear' or 'homosexuals'? Are Trousersnake and his friends homophobic? Probably not. But what you were trying to 'state' was that 'homophobia' was really a
'prejudice' rather than a 'fear', and I'm about 97% sure that's what you were trying to say, well it's both. But you couldn't say that because you're just another kidiot who's thinks he's 'too good' to think before he speaks.

This argument is over anyway, you're obviously too mentally retarded to have a decent, intelligent argument without resorting to "are YOU gay?????" or actually backing up your statements.

/thread.

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Actually it is YOU that is dancing around this topic, and you have ridiculously proven my point for me. No, I'm NOT saying that "homophobia is really a prejudice instead of a fear". But it seems that is what you are trying to accomplish here. Let me try one last time and go REAAAALLLLLL SLOOOOOWWWW for you, since obviously you are too emotionally attached to this whole scenario to think clearly.

1) If someone doesn't want to eat aspargus, it is NOT out of fear. If someone doesn't want to step in dogshit, it is NOT out of fear. If someone doesn't want to see the latest Jack Black movie, it is NOT out of fear. If someone doesn't want to associate with homosexuals or like their lifestyle or behaviors, it is NOT out of fear. You following this so far?????

2) In EVERY OTHER WORD that has "phobia" attached to it, it is a legitimate clinical diagnosis of "fear".

3) The gay community has created the word "homophobia" erroneously creating a belief that there is "fear" in regard to why people don't like them. First, that is inaccurate as I've already stated. Now however, if you are claiming like you attempted to put words into MY mouth....that in fact THEIR usage of phobia instead THIS time means "prejudice" then that is just further proof of their SEPARATE SET OF RULES. So basically phobia means fear every other time its used, except when gays are trying to further their agenda. How nice it must be to just create your own language and redefine verbiage "all because you want to".

Lets try a differernt phobia...and you just MAY get it. (Although I doubt it, considering how much you have tripped up the rest of this thread). Lets say someone has a deep seeded fears of spiders. That would be considered arachniphobia. In the grand scheme of things that person is a victim to the spider, and because of the ominous fear of that spider the spider now holds "power" over that person.

Lets take the same analogy and apply it to homophobia. If I see a gay person grab my friends dick and I say to them....."hey you faggot, what is your problem?".....then they may retort...."you are a homophobe". That WOULD be completely inacurrate because 1) I'm not a victim to some silly queer and 2) they certainly have no power over me.

You still following along yet? Ok then, so which is it now? Are the gays just so full of themselves that they mistakenly believe people are actually AFRAID of them? Or, are they just trying to redefine the english language and creating words that have no accuracy in their meaning.....again trying to live by a SPECIAL SET OF STANDARDS??????

It should be homonausea.

But you STILL have not given even the remotest shred of evidence where "fear" comes into any aspect of whatever happens to gays in a negative sense.

"Fear... leads to anger. Anger, leads to hatred. And hatred leads to tha dark syde!!"

- Yoda.

The work you request is written by Skinner, Jones... basically the entire field of behavioralism on the subject of aversive conditioning. Congratulations, the entire field of psychology has consensus that you're wrong.

Especially in the double standard world where they think they can grab people's crotches and get away with it....and then if they are called out on it, it is suddenly a "hate crime".

Was it your crotch that trousersnake spoke of?

No?

If not - you don't have a damned idea what happened. 'n neither does trousersnake. Nor, for that matter, does anyone else.

The only person who can say anything is the one person whose dick alledgedly was grabbed. In the mouth of anyone else, it's just drama.

Stop the drama before it spreads. Box your own damned shit or drop it, and quit spreading other people's drama.

So since you completely tap-danced around my rebuttal (with such fluid dance moves, are YOU gay?????) is it safe to say you can't find even ONE other word with "phobia" attached to it where it does NOT have some connotation in regard to "fear"?????

Nucleophobic, lipophobic, etc, etc, etc.

You seem to be experiencing some profound inner conflict. Are you gay?

Anyways... you might want to study, oh, I dunno, the entire field of modern psychology.

"Fear... leads to anger. Anger, leads to hatred. And hatred leads to tha dark syde!!"

- Yoda.

The work you request is written by Skinner, Jones... basically the entire field of behavioralism on the subject of aversive conditioning. Congratulations, the entire field of psychology has consensus that you're wrong.



Was it your crotch that trousersnake spoke of?

No?

If not - you don't have a damned idea what happened. 'n neither does trousersnake. Nor, for that matter, does anyone else.

The only person who can say anything is the one person whose dick alledgedly was grabbed. In the mouth of anyone else, it's just drama.

Stop the drama before it spreads. Box your own damned shit or drop it, and quit spreading other people's drama.



Nucleophobic, lipophobic, etc, etc, etc.

You seem to be experiencing some profound inner conflict. Are you gay?

Anyways... you might want to study, oh, I dunno, the entire field of modern psychology.

If you are going to quote the true Jedi Master, at least have the decency to get it right. You forgot about "suffering" there bub. On a side note, in all of the dozens of times I've watched every SW episode....I have not ONCE see a queer in there, nice vision Mr. Lucas.

Then you go into some diatribe about how "we really don't know what happened". All I did (as well as every other poster) was discuss the scenario provided to us. Yet you don't like my particular slant on things, and your comeback is....."how do any of us know what happened?". Dude, that could be the feeblest comeback in the history of message boards, and you could lay that nonsense in ANY thread on ANY message board on the internet. How about we just stick to the REAL aspects of the discussion, and you can play "lets make pretend" on your own time....ok?

And then of course the last straw to grasp, if someone speaks out about something then they must have some secret desire to really live out that something. Uh huh, LOGIC at its best. So in other words you are suggesting I really do want to be getting butt fucked, while eating asparagus with my foot in a pile of dog shit all the while Nacho Libre is playing on my DVD player???? ROFLMFAO

Sorry bub, but the REALITY is I'm just sick to death of all this politically correct bullshit we have to endure in the times we are living in. 5 -10 years ago I couldn't care any less about the homosexual community and whatever it was they were doing. But when it is to the point basic common sense and normalcy is thrown out the window all in the interest that this politically correct facade we are living in is forcefed down our throats....yeah, I'm gonna have a strong opinion on things.

So spare me your pseudo intellectual very amateurish psycho babble, and lets stick to the facts at hand....deal? Maybe you can answer the questions that seemed to chase the other guy away. 1) Are you suggesting that gays should have a DIFFERENT code of conduct in regard to grabbing, pawing, fondling other human beings? 2) Is the reason that the term "homophobia" should be taken seriously.....because gays actually believe we fear them, or is this just ANOTHER special set of rules they expect us to live up to?

So spare me your pseudo intellectual very amateurish psycho babble...

...actually, I'm a professional - but you're more than welcome to discuss the implications of behavioralism.

Y'know... discuss, not "throw a tantrum and dodge the question."

And then of course the last straw to grasp, if someone speaks out about something then they must have some secret desire to really live out that something. Uh huh, LOGIC at its best. So in other words you are suggesting I really do want to be getting butt fucked, while eating asparagus with my foot in a pile of dog shit all the while Nacho Libre is playing on my DVD player???? ROFLMFAO

...and you fail to realize that this came in response to you calling people 'gay' because you disagreed with them?

Oh, my.

Then you go into some diatribe about how "we really don't know what happened". All I did (as well as every other poster) was discuss the scenario provided to us. Yet you don't like my particular slant on things, and your comeback is....."how do any of us know what happened?". Dude, that could be the feeblest comeback in the history of message boards...

...actually, it's not a "comeback," it's a very prudent guideline to keeping drama down taken off the street.

I, for one, salute an end to drama.

and you could lay that nonsense in ANY thread on ANY message board on the internet. How about we just stick to the REAL aspects of the discussion, and you can play "lets make pretend" on your own time....ok?

So, you're promising that you will cease to pretend that you have actual knowledge of what "a guy that allegedly met a friend of some guy I met on a message board" allegedly did?

Good.

Maybe you can answer the questions that seemed to chase the other guy away. 1) Are you suggesting that gays should have a DIFFERENT code of conduct in regard to grabbing, pawing, fondling other human beings?

Perhaps you should've read that bit about keeping the drama down, rather than just throwing a random tantrum?

You've already been answered.

2) Is the reason that the term "homophobia" should be taken seriously..... because {bullshit crap deleted}

Obviously not.

Then again, if your reading comprehension was any better, you would've already known that.

If you are going to quote the true Jedi Master, at least have the decency to get it right. You forgot about "suffering" there bub. On a side note, in all of the dozens of times I've watched every SW episode....

ZOMG I'M SO SORRY!!!!!!!

Wake me when you quit running from the topic.

...

Wake me when you quit running from the topic.

ROFLMFAO! You claim I'm running from topic when there is nothing in your last two posts pertaining to the original topic. Instead you continue to throw meager digs at me (which by the way are only funny in your eyes), and of course include some nice self indulgent chest thumping as well. You feel better now? Come wake me when you actually want to discuss this topic, rather than throw your feeble attempts at trading barbs with me.....cuz at this point what you are bringing has put me to sleep.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......

It should be homonausea.

Once again we are the only two people who have said anything intelligent in this thread.

ROFLMFAO! You claim I'm running from topic when there is nothing in your last two posts pertaining to the original topic...

Hmm, let's see...

...you asked for words containing "-phobia" that did not rely on fear.

I gave you a few.

You asked for documentation that fear was involved in aversional processes.

I gave you the reference.

You... have thrown one temper tantrum after another. I haven't seen you do anything else, though I suppose there's something I could have missed.

Grow up, boy.

Once again we are the only two people who have said anything intelligent in this thread.

no.

Holy shit replies hae to be at least 5 characters long now

I would have fought them regardless of sexual orientation. When somebody with a penis spouts that kind of shit to me, they better be prepared to back it up.

Once again we are the only two people who have said anything intelligent in this thread.
"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to rabbitweed again."

"Fear... leads to anger. Anger, leads to hatred. And hatred leads to tha dark syde!!"

- Yoda.


Hate leads to suffering dipshit.

chain them to the back of a pickup truck and drag them down a dirt road....