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Politics: Left, Right, and Center National, state, regional, and local politics. Who's doing what to whom, and what you can do about it. How-to-get-action messages are encouraged. "How the government fucked up my life" stories are encouraged. Sharing new methods for cheating on taxes is encouraged. Sample "letters to congresscritters" are encouraged. Apathy and "I can't do anything" posts are discouraged. Left, right, centrist, or any other form of political-economic systems are all up for discussion. Be prepared to defend yourself, or at least have a good line of bullshit ready. Extensive quoting of economists and philosophers is frowned upon. We want to hear what YOU have to say, not what some constipated, impotent, dead guy dreamt up while suffering from the DT's over a hundred years ago thought.

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Old 2007-04-13, 05:00
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Default The Draft.

Personally I think were going to be in Iraq quite a long time so do u think with the time Bush has left in office he'll issue a draft. It probally depends on what happens.
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Old 2007-04-13, 07:53
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Default Re: The Draft.

Even if he did i think 1 out of 5 men and women eligable for the draft would rather go to prison anyway. And i think thats conservative.
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Old 2007-04-13, 08:08
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Default Re: The Draft.

I highly doubt there'll be a draft, anytime in the near future. First off, the military does not want a draft, nor does the American people, nor do any of our elected officials. The reason why the military does not want a draft, is that it will force us to lower our standards even more. Unless the shit Really hits the fan, don't expect to see a draft. If there ever is a draft, I doubt it will be when Bush is president, or even the guy after him.
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Old 2007-04-13, 14:33
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Default Re: The Draft.

Public support of the war is not sufficient to justify a draft.

If a draft was issued, about 50% of America would just laugh and impeach Bush.

From what I gather, you yanks are getting pretty fed up of all this bullshit. Talk about a second Vietnam. You guys couldn't do shit against guerilla tactics then and you can't do shit now.

You're gonna be there for years and every day soldiers are gonna get sniped and blown to bits by IED's.

You can't beat an enemy that doesn't want to be seen in their own country.
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Old 2007-04-13, 18:57
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Default Re: The Draft.

Moving to politics.
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Old 2007-04-13, 19:46
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From what I gather, you yanks are getting pretty fed up of all this bullshit. Talk about a second Vietnam. You guys couldn't do shit against guerilla tactics then and you can't do shit now.

You're gonna be there for years and every day soldiers are gonna get sniped and blown to bits by IED's.

You can't beat an enemy that doesn't want to be seen in their own country.
Correction, our millitary aproach has been very effective! Although my suggestion in the topic about handeling rogue countrys is more effiecient, for a millitary force going against gorrila wartactics, we are fucking owning!

3000(us) < 500,000(them)
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Old 2007-04-13, 20:03
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Default Re: The Draft.

We have to much ROE, where not following the small wars manual. The USMC has been fighting these type of conflicts for much of its existence. Just let us loose and shit will be raped up in a year.
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Old 2007-04-13, 20:13
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We have to much ROE, where not following the small wars manual. The USMC has been fighting these type of conflicts for much of its existence. Just let us loose and shit will be raped up in a year.
ha, i wish that could happen, but we got bleeding heart liberals that would stop it! Marines are put in prison for life by libs now, think what would happen then!!! Although its not like we would be killing everyone its just the gay fucking "sensitivity training" bullshit and the gay get your ass killed rules of engagment are making us soft so we cant fight the terrorists with full power! WHO THE FUCK CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF SENSITIVITY TRAINING?!? Since when did we want baddass marines to be little sissy girls???
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Old 2007-04-14, 00:15
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Default Re: The Draft.

I don't think many politicians want to risk their own childrens lives. No getting around it this time around.
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Old 2007-04-14, 01:21
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Default Re: The Draft.

The only reason ever for a draft is if we had to fight a major war, such as World War 2. I think everyone agrees that after Vietnam, the draft shouldn't be used unless we absolutely need to. Speaking of the draft, I need to turn in my selective service card..haha.

I'm not worried. I've talked about it with some friends and some of my other peers, most of them would try to skip out. I wouldn't, I think a major part of being American is defending/fighting for your country when they call it upon you. I wouldn't volunteer for some premptive strike on some country, but if the country truely need help during some major war.

Chances of a draft in the near future (5 to 10 years) slim to none. No major powers want to truely butt heads with another. Even countries like Iran and North Korea don't want to stir up a war with the West at this point. North Korea won't pull anything because they can't even feed themselves, let alone fight a war with the West, South Korea, Japan, or China. Iran is the most dangerous threat in my mind, but I don't think the moderates will allow a war with the West. Iran wants to prosper and a war with the west would send that country back 50 years.
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