Before I begin, I don't want you to think I need help getting laid or anything, thats not the issue. It's been a really weird week, and I just need some advice on what to do. This is a very long post, so if you don't feel like reading it all, don't read it. I usually find this forum to be one of the more serious ones, so I decided this would be the best one to post in it. It would probably be fine in BLTC as well, as most of it is drug related.

There is also a lot of stuff I want to ask about, and I would really appreciate detailed advice and stuff about, because I know that there are quite a few older members on here who have a lot more experience with this kind of thing as I do. Its not all about love, its also about things at home and stuff as well, and as there are a few of you who have kids of you're home I thought you'd be able to help.

I'll try my hardest to put everything into paragraphs as best as I can

Anyway to begin, I've known this girl for a couple of months, but not really to talk to or anything. She's friends with a lot of my friends, so most of the time I'm around them she's there as well. So anyway, one day my friend added me on myspace. So I had a look at it, and saw that she was on there as well, so I added her. Anyway we was talking and stuff on MSN for a couple of hours, and we decided we would meet up for a joint during college one day. That was maybe two weeks ago or something. So we got talking and stuff, and got to know her, and she's a really nice girl, but people think that she is bad, because she likes drugs. Now I don't see that as a problem or anything, because I do as well, so we bonded quite quickly.

I realised that she wasn't a druggy like some people though, she just did the odd roll or line every so often, much like myself. So anyway, I saw her the next day as well, and we went for another couple of joints, and just sat there talking and drawing funny pictures and stuff for a while. We spoke for a while later that night on MSN (as it was the day we finished college for the easter holiday) we decided that we should hang out during easter.

She lives about 20 miles away from me, which is a little bit of a problem (As you will soon find out), and as neither of us can drive, we wouldn't be able to see each other every day in the holidays. So anyway, we met up last wednesday. I met her and we sat and smoked a joint before we decided to go up to college. One of the subjects she does is photography and she had to develop some photo's for her coursework. So we went to the dark room and began work. I realised that I had a pill in my wallet from the night before, and asked if she wanted it. She took it there in the dark room, but it didnt seem like it was working. I didn't force her to take it or anything, I just gave it her because I'd taken one about an hour before and didn't want to be too fucked. So we finished the photos and decided that we'd go and get some more. We went up to my friend's house. He lives with a few other people, who I'd met a couple times before, so we were both welcomed in to smoke with them. The guy we were buying off, who we'll call M, sold us 5, and we dropped another one together there. we sat down and chilled for a while, waiting for the pills to kick in. Suddenly I felt them hit me properly, and I just wanted to touch everybody. So I was sitting there in the sofa with Hallie next to me, and we just there touching each other and cuddling and stuff. Everyone else there, wasn't rolling, but they understood that we were, and didn't mind. They found the whole experience hilarious, and sat there listening to the stupid shit we were saying.

Anyway, we got there about 2 o clock, and stayed there till about 5.30. Then I realised that Halli's bus was at 5.30. It was the last bus home. So inevitably I missed it. I also have to be home at 6 for dinner, and as we were both so high, I got home nearly an hour late. I asked if Halli could stay the night, as she had missed the last bus home, and my mom was very skeptical about it, as she had never met her before, and Halli was in a real state. She just sat there licking her wrists and poking me in the cheek. I was starting to get real scared about what to do, so once I had finished dinner we walked to work. We were both starting to come down, and mine was hitting me really badly, but I didn't want to say anything to upset Halli, so we decided that we would go back to M's later and see if she could stay there, as they had said earlier that if either of us needed to crash there we were both invited anytime.

So she sat at work for about an hour and a half, and as there was only 3 of us working, and all drug users themselves, they realised that I was coming down and said I could go, and advised me to sleep and relax a little. So we walked back up to M's, and Halli and I took another pill. They said it was fine for us to stay over, so we chilled out and sat next to each other on the sofa again. We were doing what we was doing earlier, just cuddling and stuff, and talking. I think then Halli reacted to her pill really badly, and she was even more fucked than she was earlier that day. She was talking about things that I know she wouldn't normally talk about to people she'd only just met. She liked sex. That was something we talk about quite a lot, because we are both quite open about it, and its something that isn't really that embarassing. Its just that she was going on about how much she loved cock and then she showed me some videos she had on her phone. And then she showed the other people and I think they were quite embarassed by it. Then I had to go, at about 11.30, as my parents would be expecting me home from work at about that time,so I got up and said I was going.

Everyone then had a massive go at me for leaving Halli there with them, and said it was really bad because she'd only met them earlier. But then someone (who was sober) said they was only kidding, and just to go. So I left, and I don't really know what happened, and whether Halli did anything crazy while I was gone. I went around the next morning though, because I was worried about her, and she was fine. She was lying next to M in bed, but I was pretty sure that she wouldn't have had sex with him, so I didn't say anything. Then we both left (she had to get picked up, and I had to go home for dinner). I talked to her online later that night, and she said she'd rather have slept in a bed than on the sofa, so I understood and didn't think anything of it.

Anyway, we decided that we'd meet again on Saturday (7th). So we met at the usual spot, and went to get some pills from Mickey's. we walked up, and when we was about 1/4 of the way there, we saw Theo.

Now I could class Theo as one of my best friends. Just recently he tried to commit suicide, and afterwards he decided that he want's to live his life to the fullest, and experience other things, instead of sitting around in front of his computer all day. He asked me if I would get some weed for him, as he'd never tried it before. I was a bit reluctant to at first, as I didn't want him to start smoking too much, or doing anything else, but I decided that if he want's to do it, I might as well help him. Anyway much more to the point, he tried pills as well, and when I was walking up to M's with Halli, he was walking the opposite way to get some more from another Dealer. So we said Hi and I introduced him and his friend to Halli. Then we decided we'd stop for a joint. As I was rolling it, He was all over Halli, and I know this sounds childish and stuff, but it really pissed me off, because he'd only just met her, and he knows I really like her and she likes me. So yeah I wasn't happy.

(I'm still having a massive arguement with Theo about it right now)

So we finished the joint and walked to M's. we was going to get 15 pills. 10 for Theo, 5 for Me and Halli. M wasn't there, so we walked down with one of the guys who lives with him to meet M to get them. I had to go to work at 7 so I left. I went to work, finished at 11.30, and got a taxi up to the place. As soon as I walked in theo left, and Halli said she was really happy he'd gone as he was all over her and she really didn't like him. So M came in and we was talking for a while before dropping 1.5 pills each. Then we sat in the living room and talked with everyone else. There was about 7 of us in there.

I didn't mention this to anyone else, but I'd bought some coke that morning, and I went upstairs to 'Powder my Nose' as they say. The reason I didn't tell anyone was because I spent the last of the previous weeks wages on that coke, and I didn't want everyone continiously asking me for a line all night. The pills soon started kicking in, whilst Halli's took a while. So we sat there till about 2, smoking drinking, me popping upstairs to the bathroom every so often for another line, until I noticed that Halli looked really battered. A few of the people had gone to bed, so there was only about 6 of us in the room, me next to Halli, and M and another guy opposite, and then 2 others on the other sofa. We sat there cuddling and talking and stuff, and then we sat watching her videos again. Then she asked a lot of questions, like does this make you horny , and do you think I'm fit? etc, to which I said yes. Then she told me that she loved me and that she really likes me etc. Then I go upstairs to the bathroom again, and I come back, and she was at the other side of the room holding M's hand and stuff. I didn't think anything of it, as we was both completely wasted, so I just sat and talked to someone else. Then she leaves the room with M, and thats when I was worried that she was going to fuck him or something, and as he was sober, I thought he might be taking advantage of her or something.

Anyway I finished off my coke, and decided to go to M's room and ask if he had any for sale. So I go in (the door was left wide open), and I looked around in the dark, and I heard Halli say we're just talking. Then I look where the voice was from and it looked like she was lying on top of him or something. So i just said What the Fuck? And then walked out. Then I went back to the living room and lounged around for a while, still completely fucked, and then all of a sudden they both come through the door. I was just heading up to the bathroom, when M runs past me with a big Smirk on his face. So that got me thinking that they had sex or something, so then I went back and sat down and rolled a cigarette. Halli kept looking at me and winking and smiling at me and stuff, and I just sat and looked at her, with like a blank face. I think I looked quite pissed off so she didnt say anything.

I mean the main reason I stayed was so I could chill out with her. I don't really know some of the other guys who live there that well, and neither does she, so I figured we'd be spending most of the time together.

Anyway not much else happened, she went back to Mickeys room, I sat there in the living room until 10am, watching the Discovery Channel on my own. Then I tidied up the entire living room, did another line and then left.


I really don't know what to say to Halli, because I really like her and I'm sure she likes me as well, and I don't want to say anything to upset her, and I don't want to go back there with her in case it all happens again. We're not even together or anything, so I don't want to accuse her of sleeping with M. Although I'm pretty sure she didnt, she's not like that. Urgh I don't know whether or not I'd like to have a relationship with her now, because if we were going out on Saturday, we sure as hell wouldn't be now, not after what happened.

Why don't you just ask M if he slept with her?

startford, hmm, that's by me.
whatever.

um, that all sounds complicated and shitty, thanks to drugs (y)

personally, i wouldn't bother with her, as it appears she has no self control and probably fucked M. you'd be doing yourself a favour to find another chick, and to stop doing the coke and pills.

Who the fuck cares? You're not dating. Why are you getting so clingy this early into the shpeel? I would just fuck the girl and leave her. Everything else is bullshit. Learn that.

Too long did'nt care

Ok, I'm not exactly sure what your question is or what help you are looking for. But I will give you some observations, and keep in mind it is from an "older" (37) partier that has been around the block more than once just like you asked.......

I think you have mistakenly given her an unconscious impression that you and her are just "buddies". The reason I say this is you are taking no stance of "protecting" her, like most men do toward women they have feelings for. The fact you just left her at your drug dealer's house over night just baffles me. And you openly admit that most of the people that hang out over there you don't know very well. My point is, yeah hanging out with dealers and some insidious and less than trust worthy people is all part of the drug game. Going over and picking up whatever, smoking a joint or doing a line, and hanging for an hour is totally normal.

But to LEAVE a chick you like there????? Considering she was buzzed, AND some of the other people there were under whatever influence......you just opened a door for a whole lot of trouble. Whether she got horny and decided to let them gangbang her, or some visiting creep decides to rape her.....you allowed any number of scenarios to potentially happen. Granted, I understand that in all probability nothing DID happen, but the fact you so casually let her fend for herself to me is sending a message to her (and everyone else) that you don't have "those kind" of feelings for her. Meaning, you don't want to someday be her boyfriend/lover/knight in shining armor.......instead she is just a chick you party and play with.

Why you would take a girl that you have interest in home to mom and dad when you are both buzzed confuses me as well. You never get a second chance to make a first impression, and no matter where this goes I'm sure it will take your parents quite a long time to get that first encounter out of their heads.

It seems to me one of the biggest things you are lacking is planning and time management. And this is how folks go from "casual" drug users that have everything in control, to the losers that let their whole lives fall out of their grasp....whether its a drink, line, joint, whatever. I'm not calling you a loser, just making you aware that when your usage gets to the point of missing buses, puuting yourself in precarious situations (meeting mom and dad all fucked up), and having to just more or less abandon love interests at the house of some unsavory characters......THEN it is time to look inward and see if you still have control of the situation.

Please keep in mind I'm not some "reformed" goody goody, that is just spewing about the good ole days. I'm still a daily stoner that runs a business, is happily married and is a devoted father. Yeah, I still play and party....but my shit is also always together and I don't find myself in these weird scenarios. (Ok, there are times I misplace the remote after I've toked.....LOL) I hope this doesn't sound TOO judgemental, but from what you have written I don't believe that you (and her) are as in control and making the best decisions that you could be.....the way you are trying to portray yourself.

My advice? Splurge on a hotel room for a couple of nights, get an entire cocktail of whatever partyables, and just GIVE HER THE COCK that she is asking for....Sexfest 2007! But the way things are going now, it will NEVER be your "typical" boyfriend/girlfriend hookup until you change your behavior and the environments you put yourselves into.

Ok Here Go The Best Two Advices Anyone Could Ever Give You:

1.- Quit Drugs Man !! Your Life Is A Piece Of Shit !! You Waste Your Money And Your Heatlh For Fuck Sake !!!

2.- Forget About That Bitch !!! She Is A Stoner As You Are And She Might Have Unprotected Sex With Anyone At Any Time !!! Do You Want An Hiv Positive Girlfriend????

Seriously Just Quit Drugs, Get Yourself And That Halli Girl Into A Rehab Center !!!!

WOW man, first of all, to manny books,

second of all, even though i sat through the whole thing, by the end of it i was sure it was a story about lesbian lovers lol.


third- get your life together while you still have brain cells


fourth- get a girlfriend that is not a skank

Holy shit, I was scrolling down to see how long it was, and it just kept going