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Old 2007-04-08, 21:29
H4T3 H4T3 is offline
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Default A Good Woman Is Hard To Find.

Now, a lot of beggers cannot be chosers, but if you can chose I ask you to chose accordingly. The following is yet another rant I have concerning the perfect woman. Happy Easter!

My Anthropology professor, D. Kellog, has taught us many things in his class. Within the first week he explained common trends in advancing cultures. As cultures advance, men gain more respect for the woman. She aquires a way to hold her own and make her own living, no longer do we have to hunt and kill for a living. Naturally, women gain respect in society and a certain element of female submission is lost.

I respect a woman that can hold her own in a male dominant world. Most women are, by nature, completely submissive. When picking females out in the dating world you have to look for one that's completely alone, or head of her "pack." The reason you're looking for this is because women must lean on eachother in an emotional sense. I've been with, and hung out with, enough women to understand this commonly known fact. The pack leader sets trends and does not complain about occurances. She also does not search for a hollywood relationship.

In our culture, you may have noticed that only women read "romance novels." First off, if you catch a woman reading romance novels, dump her. They're comparing you to a perfect male they've created from that particular book that was, more often than not, written by a woman. You'll never be able to live up to her standards and you will almost always fail at maintaining a relationship. These women fabricate drama where there is none in a desperate attempt to live a "romantic life." This is the prime reason I attribute "chick flicks" to the fall of western civilization as we know it.

Also, never get close to a woman who wants to move in. These women are clingy and will slow you down on what you want to do. They do not have a strong sense of independence and want your soul. Don't even bother with that shit. That sucks.

Back to the pack leader, a common trend in these women is their intense sense of independence. Their pride in their work and male-ish agression lead them to be prime canidates for a good relationship. The independence will at first appear rather intimidating. Many people look at these women and assume them to be "slutty" or "bitchy." Note that these women are not always with friends. Some of the time they're completely alone or only have one or two friends. Their ability to read people and live alone is a good thing. You'll be able to do your thing and she'll be able to do hers. She does not live by romantic fiction, or even by most rules western society has fabricated.

I bet now you're thinking "Hey, I like living with women, buddy." Cool, but you should look at the statistics. Most couples who move in together before marriage have doubled the divorce rate. There is an 85% chance to lose half your shit. Why? Many scholars argue that it's because the couples are used to living together, and know they can maintain it without marriage. Bullshit (http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5025b_qa.html).

The reasons this can happen are fairly simple. One: the woman you've got was clingy and over-eager to get things started. She wanted to get married so bad that she's become completely fucking unbearable. She moves in, oh shit. She gets started early. The chemicals your brain send off to create what you feel for her wear off. You realize you've made a huge fucking mistake. If you beg to differ, congratulations you're 15% of the population.

Lastly, I'm going to tell you how to find these women. Usually they exist in college. You've got to take classes according to what you want to study. As you get in there, make sure to flirt a lot. Go out and do things you want to do, look for women that are alone and cool with it. They will not slow you down and can be very complimentary to whatever you want to do in life. This is a good thing.

Remember

No romance novels.
No moving in together.
No talking about their ex.
No crying on your shoulder.
No telling you what to do.


This information may help you avoid building a white picket fence.

Sincerely,
The dominant male monkey motherfucker.

P.S. - Kudos to anyone who got my title reference.
 #2 
Old 2007-04-08, 21:31
Bazzle Bazzle is offline
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Your thread is kinda retarded.
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Old 2007-04-08, 21:34
Isobutane Isobutane is offline
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um, i make good lemon cake, give head and am just about beatable at katamari, what more could you want?
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Old 2007-04-08, 21:34
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Default Re: A Good Woman Is Hard To Find.

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Your thread is kinda retarded.


Look at it this way, at least I've got nothing wrong with my dick. My Mojo's just fine, and I feel it has more substance than most people provide.

Oh, and for the TOTSE retort: "So's your face."

Originally posted by Isobutane
um, i make good lemon cake, give head and am just about beatable at katamari, what more could you want?

I'm sure you're a great woman. But chances are high you're not my type. I do love lemon cake, though... And you know organic chemistry. Snaps.
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Old 2007-04-08, 21:38
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Default Re: A Good Woman Is Hard To Find.

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Originally Posted by Isobutane
um, i make good lemon cake, give head and am just about beatable at katamari, what more could you want?


I know I am going to regret asking but wtf is katamari??!

Something to do with catamites?
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Old 2007-04-08, 21:41
Isobutane Isobutane is offline
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I know I am going to regret asking but wtf is katamari??!

Something to do with catamites?

:]
it's a ps2 game where you roll up, well, everything, even grandpas and chickens. it's a pretty mean game, ruining people's lives to make a giant ball to throw into space as a star, planet or star dust, but hey, it's cute!
kind of like gremlins, if it wasn't that they were gremlins, it would be a pretty horrific film.
you can get away with murder when there's a cute little.. animal? involved.
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Old 2007-04-08, 21:49
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um, i make good lemon cake, give head and am just about beatable at katamari, what more could you want?


marry me?
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Old 2007-04-08, 21:58
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:]
it's a ps2 game where you roll up, well, everything, even grandpas and chickens. it's a pretty mean game, ruining people's lives to make a giant ball to throw into space as a star, planet or star dust, but hey, it's cute!
kind of like gremlins, if it wasn't that they were gremlins, it would be a pretty horrific film.
you can get away with murder when there's a cute little.. animal? involved.

riiiiiiight.....


Why do I suddenly feel I've aged a century?
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Old 2007-04-08, 22:05
H4T3 H4T3 is offline
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riiiiiiight.....


Why do I suddenly feel I've aged a century?

You could be old!

No, that's not helping...
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Old 2007-04-08, 22:10
Eye_Of_The_Watcher Eye_Of_The_Watcher is offline
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.... Your generalization fails. There are certain trends to relationships but nothing so clear cut out. Mainly it's a case by case thing.

For me The most important thing is a chick who is realistic, not a drama whore, and not extremly nosey.
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Old 2007-04-08, 22:23
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.... Your generalization fails. There are certain trends to relationships but nothing so clear cut out. Mainly it's a case by case thing.

For me The most important thing is a chick who is realistic, not a drama whore, and not extremly nosey.


My ideas were based mostly on fact and observation. I find it's basically self-evident.

Besides, what generalization were you pointing out?
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Old 2007-04-09, 00:39
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Assuming that statistic wasn't just pulled out of someones ass, thats very misleading and doesnt really support your argument. A couple that doesnt live with one another before marriage is most likely from a more traditional or religious background. Sure those people might not get divorced but the husband is most likely doing meth with male prostitutes while the mother hasnt been layed in missionary position since her brother raped her in gradeschool.

Eh. My post is 100 times dumber than the topic. oh well
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Old 2007-04-09, 00:52
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Originally Posted by Isobutane
um, i make good lemon cake, give head and am just about beatable at katamari, what more could you want?


Yes, but what is your time in the beer-fetch?
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Old 2007-04-09, 01:22
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A good woman is easy to find, all it takes is for you to look for good women. Most people don't know what they're really looking for.
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Old 2007-04-09, 06:17
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give head


*unzipz*
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Old 2007-04-09, 09:24
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When picking females out in the dating world you have to look for one that's completely alone, or head of her "pack." The reason you're looking for this is because women must lean on eachother in an emotional sense. I've been with, and hung out with, enough women to understand this commonly known fact. .


I dont have any friends. So maybe you should rethink your assholish theory, Frasier...
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Old 2007-04-09, 15:37
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You make some good points. I'd never really thought about women having alpha-females like we have pack leaders. But I suppose they do, at least to an extent.
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Old 2007-04-09, 15:48
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He speaketh the truth.
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Old 2007-04-09, 17:34
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You're actually completely wrong, because all you did was look at the clingy bitches that try and run your life, and assumed the opposite independent woman would be a better catch. This is utter shit. If anything, your description of the perfect women sounds more like a man.

First I'll tell you what is wrong with your perfect women. Men= security, both financial and physical security whether the woman needs it or not. Independent women have no use for security, therefore have no use for you. The only thing they need you for is sex, and what's the point of keeping you around if they can switch up partners with ease. This would be a terrible longterm partner, and nothing more than a fuck friend short term. I could go on and on why your ideal woman isn't ideal, but I'll stop here and tell you what to look for.

The perfect women requires a few things for a healthy relationship.
Independence and interdependence. You want her to be able to go out and make decisions for the household by herself, however, she has to also need you for some things. It might be working on her car, household repairs, sex, emotional support, or just some muscle when somethings to heavy for her.

Open-mindedness and co-operation skills.
She has to be understanding that you are dynamic aswell as her, and a relationship that is not dynamic and changing to both of your needs is one that will end. Also, this requires a great deal of compromise. Obviousely boundries in a relationship are dynamic but can also be static, and you must be aware of these static boundries. Monogamy is often a static boundry with couples, and often ends relationships when one crosses it.

Selflessness.
This is another major factor that ends a lot of relationships. Whether it's using an unfair share of money, time, etc... for yourself, the result is usually very disasterous for a relationship. It can also get ugly if you never get to use these things for yourself too. Compromising personal needs with your partners needs is necessary, and varies from one couple to the next.

However, being a man, I can say that the majority of the time we are the problem. Women have evolved into something new, and now we must evolve or not get pussy. Women took centuries to evolve, we are still caveman, but now we must evolve quickly. We can't find women that fit our needs, we must now fit theirs and they will take care of ours for doing so. It probably won't kill you to listen some emotional issue every now and again.
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Old 2007-04-09, 17:37
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I dont have any friends. So maybe you should rethink your assholish theory, Frasier...

You're also amazingly possesive. I'm willing to bet you're the kind of female that clings onto a male like he's life support. I've dealt with your kind, and don't think I'm kidding. I would quote you, but I'm sure enough people have seen your shit on TOTSE to guess that. Besides, there are more reasons to not having friends than being an "alpha-female," you could just be too clingy. OR you could spend too much time on the temple.

At any rate, either end of the specturm is usually ostracised.
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Old 2007-04-09, 17:55
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You're actually completely wrong, because all you did was look at the clingy bitches that try and run your life, and assumed the opposite independent woman would be a better catch. This is utter shit. If anything, your description of the perfect women sounds more like a man.

First I'll tell you what is wrong with your perfect women. Men= security, both financial and physical security whether the woman needs it or not. Independent women have no use for security, therefore have no use for you. The only thing they need you for is sex, and what's the point of keeping you around if they can switch up partners with ease. This would be a terrible longterm partner, and nothing more than a fuck friend short term. I could go on and on why your ideal woman isn't ideal, but I'll stop here and tell you what to look for.

The perfect women requires a few things for a healthy relationship.
Independence and interdependence. You want her to be able to go out and make decisions for the household by herself, however, she has to also need you for some things. It might be working on her car, household repairs, sex, emotional support, or just some muscle when somethings to heavy for her.

Open-mindedness and co-operation skills.
She has to be understanding that you are dynamic aswell as her, and a relationship that is not dynamic and changing to both of your needs is one that will end. Also, this requires a great deal of compromise. Obviousely boundries in a relationship are dynamic but can also be static, and you must be aware of these static boundries. Monogamy is often a static boundry with couples, and often ends relationships when one crosses it.

Selflessness.
This is another major factor that ends a lot of relationships. Whether it's using an unfair share of money, time, etc... for yourself, the result is usually very disasterous for a relationship. It can also get ugly if you never get to use these things for yourself too. Compromising personal needs with your partners needs is necessary, and varies from one couple to the next.

However, being a man, I can say that the majority of the time we are the problem. Women have evolved into something new, and now we must evolve or not get pussy. Women took centuries to evolve, we are still caveman, but now we must evolve quickly. We can't find women that fit our needs, we must now fit theirs and they will take care of ours for doing so. It probably won't kill you to listen some emotional issue every now and again.


You could be right, but you're not. You think my idea of the perfect woman looks more like a man? Maybe you haven't met too many women so I'll throw some things out in the open. We live in the 21st century. Many women have grown accustomed to current times meaning they've grown the capacity to live and survive alone. I'm sure there's a lot of women capable of that on this website. You're still completely stuck in the dark ages. IF you want to "evolve" then I suggest you do! Men = PEOPLE (not security, not physical defense. We don't see people fighting fucking wolves anymore, do we?)

My idea of a perfect woman differs from yours more likely. I like an idea behind a woman who will not slow me down. A lot of males agree with me. More often than not men will like women that don't hump their leg all the time. The reason being men are physical, love is ephemeral. Women are generally more emotional. The average biological duration of love is about one year. After that women saty with you because they need something and you stay with them because you either got them preggerz or you can't find anything better. After two years of putting up with eachother's shit you get some different chemicals running in your brain and voila! You're together for quite a while. That's how you get parents to stay with children. Do you understand where I'm going?

As for your ideas of a perfect woman, you've brought it down to five things:

Independance
Interdependance
Open-mindedness
Co-operation skills
Selflessness


Though you've raised some good points, these things are necessary on both sides. Also, if the woman carries these attributes she will wind up dominant to the male. The reason I see it as such is because of her interdependance on him and her selflessness. This would lead the relationship to be relatively good on the male's end, however, I do not want a submissive semi-independent girl. I want someone I can leave for up to six months to go do whatever. That's why I look for:


Strong emotional barriers
Slutty/bitchy disposition
Independence
Open-mindedness
Intellegence


This would lead neither side down a path of unequality. Also, she would be able to cope without me for extended periods of time. See how that works? I leave, she can fuck someone else. She wouldn't have problems with paying rent, and she wouldn't really need me for anything. I find my path is much more GG considering my disposition as well as the average male disposition.

Note: The perfect woman for me is not the same as the perfect woman for you.
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Old 2007-04-09, 18:02
Isobutane Isobutane is offline
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is that one year two year love stuff true? because i know my boyfriend & i had a pretty crap time between like 14 and 18 months together, but now it's coming up to two years we're doing awesome but slightly differently. like, more coupley and less like kids?
perhaps 'cause we've grown up too.


mmm, i thhink easeoflife22 got it mostly right, but skipped out tonnes of emotional stuff that's important too. independence and interdependence is definitely important
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Old 2007-04-09, 18:08
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is that one year two year love stuff true? because i know my boyfriend & i had a pretty crap time between like 14 and 18 months together, but now it's coming up to two years we're doing awesome but slightly differently. like, more coupley and less like kids?
perhaps 'cause we've grown up too.


mmm, i thhink easeoflife22 got it mostly right, but skipped out tonnes of emotional stuff that's important too. independence and interdependence is definitely important


Yeah, it's true. It's a chemical structure in your brain that's an isomer of methamphetamines. After a while it wears off and you typically wind up getting rocky for a while. Then in about 2 years you get kind of a sedative feeling. It's all drugs, really.

I think dude got it both right and wrong. It looks good on paper, but I doubt it would be effective in real life.
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Old 2007-04-09, 18:11
Isobutane Isobutane is offline
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yours isn't exactly perfect either...
yeah, i googled it, it's a bit difficult to find anything longer than four lines on it though. got any linkssS?
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Old 2007-04-09, 18:14
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yours isn't exactly perfect either...
yeah, i googled it, it's a bit difficult to find anything longer than four lines on it though. got any linkssS?


I learned it out of a textbook. I would trust me on this one, if you need additional sourcing ask the kids in "Mad scientists."

Mine is perfect, but for me. See, I based my idealogy of a perfect woman on an agressive modern male type.
 
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